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'''King Dedede''' ({{ja|デデデ|Dedede}}, ''Dedede'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. His return to the series was announced in a [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|Director's Room Miiverse post]] on January 10th, 2014, which also commemorated ''{{s|wikirby|Kirby: Triple Deluxe}}'' being released in Japan on the same day. [[Masahiro Sakurai]] reprises his role as King Dedede's voice actor, albeit via a filter being applied to his ''Brawl'' voice clips.
'''King Dedede''' ({{ja|デデデ|Dedede}}, ''Dedede'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. His return to the series was announced in a [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|Director's Room Miiverse post]] on January 10th, 2014, which also commemorated ''{{s|wikirby|Kirby: Triple Deluxe}}'' being released in Japan on the same day. [[Masahiro Sakurai]] reprises his role as King Dedede's voice actor, albeit via a filter being applied to his ''Brawl'' voice clips.


King Dedede is ranked 52nd out of 55 on the [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the G tier. This is a significant drop from his high-tier placement in ''Brawl'', where he was ranked 12th out of 38 also his worst placement in the series. Dedede's primary strength is most of his attacks having large, disjointed range, courtesy of his hammer. In addition, he also possesses some very powerful attacks, such as his forward smash, down smash, back aerial and down aerial, with the latter two also functioning as good edgeguarding moves.
King Dedede is ranked 51st out of 54 on the [[tier list]], placing him at the top of the G tier. This is a significant drop from his high-tier placement in ''Brawl'', where he was ranked 12th out of 38 and is tied with [[King Dedede (SSBU)|his later iteration from ''Ultimate'']] as his worst placement in the ''Smash'' series. Dedede's primary strength is most of his attacks having large, disjointed range, courtesy of his hammer. In addition, he also possesses some very powerful attacks, such as his forward smash, down smash, back aerial and down aerial, with the latter two also functioning as good edgeguarding moves.


Dedede also boasts arguably the greatest overall endurance in the game, being the most difficult character to KO vertically, due to having the third highest [[weight]] and the second fastest [[falling speed]], and also very difficult to KO horizontally despite being a fast-falling character with slow [[air speed]], which is also due to his high weight and the fact that he boasts an impressive [[recovery]], due to his multiple [[midair jump]]s and [[Super Dedede Jump]].
Dedede also boasts arguably the greatest overall endurance in the game, being the most difficult character to KO vertically, due to having the third highest [[weight]] and the second fastest [[falling speed]], and also very difficult to KO horizontally despite being a fast-falling character with slow [[air speed]], which is also due to his high weight and the fact that he boasts an impressive [[recovery]], due to his multiple [[midair jump]]s and [[Super Dedede Jump]].
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==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''==
==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''==
King Dedede has been [[nerf]]ed significantly in the transition from ''Brawl'' to ''SSB4''. Several of his moves have been heavily altered or changed entirely, which has resulted in both positive and negative changes to his playstyle, though despite his buffs, his nerfs are much more prevalent due to his worse frame data and the loss of many of the traits that made him a formidable character in ''Brawl''.
King Dedede has been dramatically [[nerf]]ed in the transition from ''Brawl'' to ''SSB4''. Several of his moves have been heavily altered or changed entirely, which has resulted in both positive and negative changes to his playstyle, though despite his buffs, his nerfs are much more prevalent due to his worse frame data and the loss of many of the traits that made him a formidable character in ''Brawl''.


The most notable positives that these changes bring are his new [[down tilt]], new side special [[Gordo Throw]], and his down special, [[Jet Hammer]]. Dedede's new down tilt has faster start-up and travels a long distance, making it one of his best defensive moves (out of shield, after a smash attack, etc) at the cost of its spacing potential. Unlike [[Waddle Dee Toss]], Gordo Throw deals a consistent amount of damage, fairly high knockback, and can even be used to "pinball" opponents by using their tumbling momentum to Dedede's advantage by trapping them between a Gordo and Dedede due to the ability to angle a Gordo's trajectory, which improves his neutral game. Lastly, Jet Hammer has been noticeably buffed in terms of range and the recoil damage, and due to the addition of [[rage]] combined with his high endurance and weight, it is a much better move both onstage and for edge-guarding. As a result, these moves are more versatile than their previous iterations in ''Brawl''. Some of the gameplay changes brought about by ''SSB4'' have also helped Dedede. He is now less susceptible to projectile camping due to the universal nerf to projectile camping (although he still arguably has the hardest time against camping), and he can utilize the rage mechanic very effectively due to his considerable weight, which supplements his high power.
The most notable positives that these changes bring are his new [[down tilt]], new side special [[Gordo Throw]], and his down special, [[Jet Hammer]]. Dedede's new down tilt has faster start-up and travels a long distance, making it one of his best defensive moves (out of shield, after a smash attack, etc) at the cost of its spacing potential. Unlike [[Waddle Dee Toss]], Gordo Throw deals a consistent amount of damage, fairly high knockback, and can even be used to "pinball" opponents by using their tumbling momentum to Dedede's advantage by trapping them between a Gordo and Dedede due to the ability to angle a Gordo's trajectory, which improves his neutral game. Lastly, Jet Hammer has been noticeably buffed in terms of range and the recoil damage, and due to the addition of [[rage]] combined with his high endurance and weight, it is a much better move both onstage and for edge-guarding. As a result, these moves are more versatile than their previous iterations in ''Brawl''. Some of the gameplay changes brought about by ''SSB4'' have also helped Dedede. He is now less susceptible to projectile camping due to the universal nerf to projectile camping (although he still arguably has the hardest time against camping), and he can utilize the rage mechanic very effectively due to his considerable weight, which supplements his high power.


However, the aforementioned new move alterations and changes to gameplay mechanics have also brought drawbacks that drastically outweigh the aforementioned positives, despite having a less polarized moveset than ''Brawl''. The most significant of these came with his new [[down throw]]. Dedede's grabs are slower and have less range making it harder for him to land a grab and when he does, the reward he receives has been greatly decreased. One positive change down throw received is that it now launches opponents vertically which gives it greater followup potential however, down throw no longer has [[set knockback]] making its followups percentage dependent and the removal of [[chain grab]]bing has heavily harmed down throw as it can no longer be used to (infinitely depending on the character) chaingrab opponents. While it is still a decent throw overall, it is nowhere near what his ''Brawl'' down throw was which was so powerful that it alone completely nullified certain characters.  
However, the aforementioned new move alterations and changes to gameplay mechanics have also brought drawbacks that drastically outweigh the aforementioned positives, despite having a less polarized moveset than ''Brawl''. The most significant of these came with his new [[down throw]]. Dedede's grabs are slower and have less range making it harder for him to land a grab and when he does, the reward he receives has been greatly decreased. One positive change down throw received is that it now launches opponents vertically which gives it greater followup potential however, down throw no longer has [[set knockback]] making its followups percentage dependent and the removal of [[chain grab]]bing has heavily harmed down throw as it can no longer be used to (infinitely depending on the character) chaingrab opponents. While it is still a decent throw overall, it is nowhere near what his ''Brawl'' down throw was which was so powerful that it alone completely nullified certain characters.


Another one of Dedede's best moves which was changed for the worse was his [[back aerial]]. The move went from a fast, powerful, disjointed [[sex kick]] to a more powerful but drastically laggier and more difficult to land backward hammer swing. While the move is still decent, it is no longer one of the best back aerials in the game and one of Dedede's best moves. [[Up tilt]] was also noticeably nerfed as it is laggier, lingers for less time and has much less KO power. His new moves, despite bringing nice buffs, have also brought some drawbacks as well, such as his down tilt losing its KO power and having worse spacing capabilities, his new forward aerial no longer auto-canceling in a short hop (despite its faster start-up lag and more favorable hitbox placement) and being weaker and Gordo Throw being able to be reflected by any hitbox that deals at least 2%, which also hurts the previous anti-camping abilities the Waddle Dee Toss had in ''Brawl''. Dedede's already terrible air speed was decreased even further which is especially poor as most other returning veterans had their air speed increased. Altogether, all of these changes have nerfed Dedede's approach potential. Lastly, the changes to [[hitstun canceling]] also significantly harm Dedede, as they weaken his endurance despite his increased weight and make him an easy victim of combos.
Another one of Dedede's best moves which was changed for the worse was his [[back aerial]]. The move went from a fast, powerful, disjointed [[sex kick]] to a more powerful but drastically laggier and more difficult to land backward hammer swing. While the move is still decent, it is no longer one of the best back aerials in the game and one of Dedede's best moves. [[Up tilt]] was also noticeably nerfed as it is laggier, lingers for less time and has much less KO power. His new moves, despite bringing nice buffs, have also brought some drawbacks as well, such as his down tilt losing its KO power and having worse spacing capabilities, his new forward aerial no longer auto-canceling in a short hop (despite its faster start-up lag and more favorable hitbox placement) and being weaker and Gordo Throw being able to be reflected by any hitbox that deals at least 2%, which also hurts the previous anti-camping abilities the Waddle Dee Toss had in ''Brawl''. Dedede's already terrible air speed was decreased even further which is especially poor as most other returning veterans had their air speed increased. Altogether, all of these changes have nerfed Dedede's approach potential. Lastly, the changes to [[hitstun canceling]] also significantly harm Dedede, as they weaken his endurance despite his increased weight and make him an easy victim of combos.


As a result of these changes, King Dedede is significantly worse than he was in ''Brawl'' as his overall frame data was nerfed and a lot of his moves were completely changed with his two best moves (back aerial and down throw) being changed for the worse and he is one of the few characters who suffered more from the changes to ''Smash 4''{{'}}s mechanics than he benefited from them. He was one of the characters to have been the most severely nerfed in his transition from ''Brawl'', and despite having never been considered a strong character, Dedede was directly nerfed in patches receiving nerfs to his forward aerial, down throw, Gordos and his air speed. While this was somewhat balanced out with other top tiers receiving nerfs, other lower tiered characters had been buffed and DLC characters such as {{SSB4|Cloud}} and (more importantly) {{SSB4|Bayonetta}} were added to the game, further worsening his matchup spread. Due to this, Dedede went from a polarizing high tier who heavily struggled against some of the top tiers but completely annihilated many mid and low tiers to a non-viable bottom tier character who loses to almost every character ranked above him and only slightly beats some of the characters ranked below him.
As a result of these changes, King Dedede is significantly worse than he was in ''Brawl'' as his overall frame data was nerfed and a lot of his moves were completely changed with his two best moves (back aerial and down throw) being changed for the worse and he is one of the few characters who suffered more from the changes to ''Smash 4''{{'}}s mechanics than he benefited from them. He is arguably the most severely nerfed character in his transition from ''Brawl'', and despite having never been considered a strong character, Dedede was directly nerfed in patches receiving nerfs to his forward aerial, down throw, Gordos and his air speed. While this was somewhat balanced out with other top tiers receiving nerfs, other lower tiered characters had been buffed and DLC characters such as {{SSB4|Cloud}} and (more importantly) {{SSB4|Bayonetta}} were added to the game, further worsening his matchup spread. Due to this, Dedede went from a polarizing high tier who heavily struggled against some of the top tiers but completely annihilated many mid and low tiers to a non-viable bottom tier character who loses to almost every character ranked above him and only slightly beats some of the characters ranked below him.


===Aesthetics===
===Aesthetics===
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**{{nerf|King Dedede now holds his hammer from the middle of the handle, instead of the end of it, decreasing its range and making it less disjointed.}}
**{{nerf|King Dedede now holds his hammer from the middle of the handle, instead of the end of it, decreasing its range and making it less disjointed.}}
**{{buff|Forward tilt deals more damage (6%/4% → 11%) due to consisting of five hits instead of one. Additionally, it has a much larger hitbox (4.5u → 8u) and a slightly longer duration (frames 12-22 → 12-23). Lastly, its last hit has increased knockback (20 (base)/80/100 (scaling) → 30/190), granting it KO potential at high percentages.}}
**{{buff|Forward tilt deals more damage (6%/4% → 11%) due to consisting of five hits instead of one. Additionally, it has a much larger hitbox (4.5u → 8u) and a slightly longer duration (frames 12-22 → 12-23). Lastly, its last hit has increased knockback (20 (base)/80/100 (scaling) → 30/190), granting it KO potential at high percentages.}}
**{{nerf|Forward tilt has increased ending lag (FAF 43 → 49).}}  
**{{nerf|Forward tilt has increased ending lag (FAF 43 → 49).}}
**{{change|Forward tilt's final hit has an altered angle (65° → 50°).}}
**{{change|Forward tilt's final hit has an altered angle (65° → 50°).}}
*[[Up tilt]]:
*[[Up tilt]]:
**{{buff|Up tilt has noticeably increased horizontal range (6u → 8u) and considerably more combo potential due to its altered knockback combined with the changes to hitstun canceling/DI. Its intangibility also has a longer duration (frames 7-8 → 9-15).}}
**{{buff|Up tilt has noticeably increased horizontal range (6u → 8u) and considerably more combo potential due to its altered knockback combined with the changes to hitstun canceling/DI. Its intangibility also has a longer duration (frames 7-8 → 9-15).}}
**{{nerf|Up tilt has received a sourspot that deals 2% less damage (12% → 10%) and the hitbox on Dedede's lower body has been removed. It also has increased startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 7-17 → 9-15) and has more ending lag (FAF 40 → 44) and it only grants intangibility to Dedede's head and left arm as opposed to his whole body. It also has significantly decreased knockback (30 (base)/120 (scaling) → 50/80) greatly hindering its KO potential.}}  
**{{nerf|Up tilt has received a sourspot that deals 2% less damage (12% → 10%) and the hitbox on Dedede's lower body has been removed. It also has increased startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 7-17 → 9-15) and has more ending lag (FAF 40 → 44) and it only grants intangibility to Dedede's head and left arm as opposed to his whole body. It also has significantly decreased knockback (30 (base)/120 (scaling) → 50/80) greatly hindering its KO potential.}}
*[[Down tilt]]:
*[[Down tilt]]:
**{{change|King Dedede has a new down tilt, a cartwheeling tackle. Compared to the previous down tilt, it deals different knockback (20/10 (base)/100 (scaling) → 60/75).}}
**{{change|King Dedede has a new down tilt, a cartwheeling tackle. Compared to the previous down tilt, it deals different knockback (20/10 (base)/100 (scaling) → 60/75).}}
**{{buff|Down tilt has larger hitboxes (6u/4u → 7u/5u) and slightly less startup lag (frame 7 → 6).}}  
**{{buff|Down tilt has larger hitboxes (6u/4u → 7u/5u) and slightly less startup lag (frame 7 → 6).}}
**{{change|New down tilt moves Dedede forwards, significantly increasing its range and allowing Dedede to pseudo-[[crawl]] but hindering its spacing potential and making it much easier to punish.}}
**{{change|New down tilt moves Dedede forwards, significantly increasing its range and allowing Dedede to pseudo-[[crawl]] but hindering its spacing potential and making it much easier to punish.}}
**{{nerf|Down tilt launches opponents at a higher angle (361° → 45°), making it less effective at KOing at very high percentages compared to the previous down tilt. It also has a shorter duration (frames 7-18 → 6-13), has more ending lag (FAF 36 → 38), and can whiff if used too close to the opponent.}}
**{{nerf|Down tilt launches opponents at a higher angle (361° → 45°), making it less effective at KOing at very high percentages compared to the previous down tilt. It also has a shorter duration (frames 7-18 → 6-13), has more ending lag (FAF 36 → 38), and can whiff if used too close to the opponent.}}
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**{{buff|King Dedede has a new side special, Gordo Throw. Compared to [[Waddle Dee Toss]], Gordo Throw is much more consistent both as a projectile and in regard to power.<ref name="Direct"/> Additionally, Gordo Throw's ability to bounce the Gordos in different trajectories also make it better at trapping. The hammer swing used to perform the move also produces a hitbox on the hammer that deals 12%, which can also hit opponents into the subsequently tossed Gordo. Lastly, Gordo Throw can hit twice, depending on the opponent's position.}}
**{{buff|King Dedede has a new side special, Gordo Throw. Compared to [[Waddle Dee Toss]], Gordo Throw is much more consistent both as a projectile and in regard to power.<ref name="Direct"/> Additionally, Gordo Throw's ability to bounce the Gordos in different trajectories also make it better at trapping. The hammer swing used to perform the move also produces a hitbox on the hammer that deals 12%, which can also hit opponents into the subsequently tossed Gordo. Lastly, Gordo Throw can hit twice, depending on the opponent's position.}}
**{{nerf|Gordo Throw deals less damage (22% → 14% (clean)/12.5% (mid early)/11% (mid late)/9.5% (late)), less knockback (65 (base)/70 (scaling) → 70/66) and launches opponents at a less favorable angle (70° → 60°) significantly hindering their KO potential compared to Waddle Dee Toss' Gordos. Unlike Waddle Dee Toss, Gordo Throw lacks anti-camping potential, due to its Gordos being reflected by any hitbox that deals at least 2%.<ref name="Direct"/>}}
**{{nerf|Gordo Throw deals less damage (22% → 14% (clean)/12.5% (mid early)/11% (mid late)/9.5% (late)), less knockback (65 (base)/70 (scaling) → 70/66) and launches opponents at a less favorable angle (70° → 60°) significantly hindering their KO potential compared to Waddle Dee Toss' Gordos. Unlike Waddle Dee Toss, Gordo Throw lacks anti-camping potential, due to its Gordos being reflected by any hitbox that deals at least 2%.<ref name="Direct"/>}}
**{{nerf|Gordo Throw cannot be [[B-reversing|B-reversed]].}}
**{{buff|The 19% damage increase to shields and the increase to shieldstun make Gordo Throw significantly better at breaking shields compared to Waddle Dee Toss.}}
**{{buff|The 19% damage increase to shields and the increase to shieldstun make Gordo Throw significantly better at breaking shields compared to Waddle Dee Toss.}}
*[[Super Dedede Jump]]:
*[[Super Dedede Jump]]:
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|dashdmg=16% (clean), 13% (late)
|dashdmg=16% (clean), 13% (late)
|dashdesc=His signature [[wikirby:Head Slide|belly flopping tackle]]. A slow and powerful KOing option, it is the strongest dash attack in the game and is even stronger than some of the cast's smash attacks, KOing at around 80% near the edge due to its exceptionally high knockback. Can hit every character on the ledge after their [[Edge|ledge invincibility]] has ended. Originates from ''Kirby's Dream Land''.
|dashdesc=His signature [[wikirby:Head Slide|belly flopping tackle]]. A slow and powerful KOing option, it is the strongest dash attack in the game and is even stronger than some of the cast's smash attacks, KOing at around 80% near the edge due to its exceptionally high knockback. Can hit every character on the ledge after their [[Edge|ledge invincibility]] has ended. Originates from ''Kirby's Dream Land''.
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|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|24}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|6}} (late)
|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|15}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|24}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|6}} (late)
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|fairdmg=12%
|fairdmg=12%
|fairdesc=Somersaults to perform a downward hammer swing. Is unsafe on hit at lower percents. This move does not auto cancel in a short-hop and has more landing/ending lag than his back aerial, but starts much earlier. Is capable of performing a pseudo [[wall of pain]] while edgeguarding. It can also [[lock]].
|fairdesc=Somersaults to perform a downward hammer swing. Is unsafe on hit at lower percents. This move does not auto cancel in a short-hop and has more landing/ending lag than his back aerial, but starts much earlier. Is capable of performing a pseudo [[wall of pain]] while edgeguarding. It can also [[lock]].
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|bairdmg=16%
|bairdmg=16%
|bairdesc=An upward hammer swing behind himself. One of Dedede's best moves for spacing and KOing, doing so reliably below 130%. Can be auto canceled in a short-hop, and, if [[Buffer|buffered]], can be double jumped out of before Dedede lands, which can be used for tricky mix-ups. Is also relatively safe on shield when spaced at max range.
|bairdesc=An upward hammer swing behind himself. One of Dedede's best moves for spacing and KOing, doing so reliably below 130%. Can be auto canceled in a short-hop, and, if [[Buffer|buffered]], can be double jumped out of before Dedede lands, which can be used for tricky mix-ups. Is also relatively safe on shield when spaced at max range.
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|nsc1name=Dedede Storm
|nsc1name=Dedede Storm
|nsc1dmg=2% (loop), 3% (outer hit)
|nsc1dmg=2% (loop), 3% (outer hit)
|nsc1desc=Instead of Inhaling opponents, King Dedede will vacuum the opponent toward him, which hits multiple times, before exhaling them upward with the last hit. Will stop connecting reliably around the 100% range on most characters and usually cannot KO until the 200% range due to its lack of strong hitboxes throughout its duration.  
|nsc1desc=Instead of Inhaling opponents, King Dedede will vacuum the opponent toward him, which hits multiple times, before exhaling them upward with the last hit. Will stop connecting reliably around the 100% range on most characters and usually cannot KO until the 200% range due to its lack of strong hitboxes throughout its duration.
|nsc2name=Taste Test
|nsc2name=Taste Test
|nsc2dmg=5% (release), 12% (spit)
|nsc2dmg=5% (release), 12% (spit)
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|fsdesc=Inhales the opponent into place, strikes them three times with his hammer aflame, then fires a bomb out of it, launching the opponent diagonally in a spray of fireworks. It can KO at 47%, however, this Final Smash can be escaped with an [[air dodge]] halfway through, making it unreliable to use on low-damage opponents.
|fsdesc=Inhales the opponent into place, strikes them three times with his hammer aflame, then fires a bomb out of it, launching the opponent diagonally in a spray of fireworks. It can KO at 47%, however, this Final Smash can be escaped with an [[air dodge]] halfway through, making it unreliable to use on low-damage opponents.
}}
}}
===Stats===
{{Attributes
|cast = 58
|weight = 119
|rweight = 3
|dash = 1.4
|rdash = 42-46
|run = 1.36
|rrun = 51
|walk = 0.98
|rwalk = 41
|trac = 0.0484
|rtrac = 42-43
|airfric = 0.006
|rairfric = 50-51
|air = 0.63
|rair = 58
|baseaccel = 0.01
|rbaseaccel = 10-54
|addaccel = 0.04
|raddaccel = 46-53
|gravity = 0.087885
|rgravity = 31
|fall = 1.95
|rfall = 2
|ff = 3.12
|rff = 2
|jumpsquat = 6
|rjumpsquat = 42-51
|jumpheight = 32.849998
|rjumpheight = 34
|shorthop = 16.019524
|rshorthop = 34
|djump = 21.76799763, 21.76799763, 16.17335093, 13.07635173
|rdjump = 56
}}
===[[Announcer]] call===
{{audio|Needs announcer calls from other languages.}}
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===[[On-screen appearance]]===
===[[On-screen appearance]]===
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==In [[competitive play]]==
==In [[competitive play]]==
===Tier placement and history===
Upon the game's release, players quickly noticed King Dedede's nerfs in the transition from ''[[Brawl]]'', most notably the loss of [[chain grab]]bing, though some players argued that his buffs, as well as new and improved moves such as forward aerial, Gordo Throw, and down tilt, would compensate the nerfs in the long run. However, as the metagame progressed, King Dedede's weaknesses became more apparent, and players realized the changes to game mechanics not only significantly hurt the character, but that he had indeed lost more than what he gained from the transition. Despite good results from players such as {{Sm|Big D}} and {{Sm|El_Bardo}}, with the former notably placing 17th at {{Trn|Paragon Los Angeles 2015}}, expectations of him worsened as time passed. As a result, King Dedede was ranked 46th on the first [[tier list]], confirming his status as a bottom-tier character.
Despite the great advancements brought to his metagame as well as decent results, King Dedede's air speed was nerfed in update [[1.1.4]]. Although the nerf seemed minor, it made King Dedede the slowest character in the air, worsening both his neutral game and recovery. As a result, opinions on him declined even further, with many players considering him one of the worst characters in the game. This negative reputation led to a drop to 52nd on the second and third tier lists. Although due to the bottom-tier being abolished in the third tier list, he has since been reassessed as a low-tier character. He would see a slight rise to 51st on the fourth and final tier list.
It wasn't until the final year of ''Smash 4''{{'}}s active competitive lifespan when opinions on King Dedede finally saw a shift. {{Sm|ZAKI}}, a King Dedede player from Japan, made his debut outside of his country, placing 17th at both {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 4}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}}, notably defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}} in the latter. Although it may be the result of matchup inexperience, as ZAKI performed worse back in Japan, his results convinced several players such as {{Sm|Raito}} that King Dedede was not the worst character in the game, due to King Dedede's improved representation compared to other low- and mid-tier characters. Nevertheless, King Dedede is seen as a shell of his former ''Brawl'' self and is considered non-viable in the competitive metagame.
===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]===
===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]===
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===Most historically significant players===
===Most historically significant players===
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''See also: [[:Category:King Dedede professionals (SSB4)]]''
''See also: [[:Category:King Dedede players (SSB4)]]''


*{{Sm|Andy|Mexico|p=Mexico}} - The best King Dedede player in Mexico. Placed 5th at {{Trn|True Combo}} and 17th at {{Trn|Smash Factor 5}} with a win over {{Sm|Regi Shikimi}}. Formerly ranked 19th on the [[Mexican Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Andy|Mexico|p=Mexico}} - The best King Dedede player in Mexico. Placed 5th at {{Trn|True Combo}} and 17th at {{Trn|Smash Factor 5}} with a win over {{Sm|Regi Shikimi}}. Formerly ranked 19th on the [[Mexican Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Big D|Canada}} - One of the best King Dedede players during the first few years of ''Smash 4'', but has since relegated the character to a rare secondary pick. Placed 3rd at both {{Trn|Northwest Majors: Drop Zone}} and {{Trn|Cascade 2}}, 7th at {{Trn|Northwest Majors VIII}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Paragon Los Angeles 2015}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Larry Lurr}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Tyrant}}. Ranked 1st on the [[British Columbia Smash 4 Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Big D|Canada}} - One of the best King Dedede players during the first few years of ''Smash 4'', but has since relegated the character to a rare secondary pick. Placed 3rd at both {{Trn|Northwest Majors: Drop Zone}} and {{Trn|Cascade 2}}, 7th at {{Trn|Northwest Majors VIII}}, and 17th at {{Trn|Paragon Los Angeles 2015}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Larry Lurr}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Tyrant}}. Ranked 1st on the [[British Columbia Smash 4 Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Bryce|USA}} - The best King Dedede player in the United States. Placed 13th at both {{Trn|Olympus}} and {{Trn|Smashadelphia 2017}} as well as 25th at both {{Trn|KTAR XX}} and {{Trn|Royal Flush}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Shoyo James}}, {{Sm|Vivid}}, and {{Sm|The Great Gonzales}}. Formerly ranked 11th on the [[New Jersey Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|Bryce|USA}} - The best King Dedede player in the United States. Placed 13th at both {{Trn|Olympus}} and {{Trn|Smashadelphia 2017}} as well as 25th at both {{Trn|KTAR XX}} and {{Trn|Royal Flush}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Shoyo James}}, {{Sm|Vivid}}, and {{Sm|The Great Gonzales}}. Formerly ranked 11th on the [[New Jersey Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|El_Bardo|Spain}} - Co-mains King Dedede with {{SSB4|Sonic}} and is considered the best King Dedede player in Europe. Placed 9th at {{Trn|ICARUS III}} and 13th at both {{Trn|Tech Republic 2}} and {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 7}}. Ranked 12th on the [[Spanish Power Rankings]].  
*{{Sm|El_Bardo|Spain}} - Co-mains King Dedede with {{SSB4|Sonic}} and is considered the best King Dedede player in Europe. Placed 9th at {{Trn|ICARUS III}} and 13th at both {{Trn|Tech Republic 2}} and {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 7}}. Ranked 12th on the [[Spanish Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|ZAKI|Japan}} - The best King Dedede player in the world. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Sumabato 19}}, 9th at {{Trn|Sumabato 24}}, and 17th at both {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 4}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Charlie}}, and {{Sm|Rags}}. Ranked 53rd on the [[JAPAN Power Rankings]].
*{{Sm|ZAKI|Japan}} - The best King Dedede player in the world. Placed 5th at {{Trn|Sumabato 19}}, 9th at {{Trn|Sumabato 24}}, and 17th at both {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 4}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|MkLeo}}, {{Sm|Charlie}}, and {{Sm|Rags}}. Ranked 53rd on the [[JAPAN Power Rankings]].


===Tier placement and history===
==[[Trophies]]==
Upon the game's release, players quickly noticed King Dedede's nerfs in the transition from ''[[Brawl]]'', most notably the loss of [[chain grab]]bing, though some players argued that his buffs, as well as new and improved moves such as forward aerial, Gordo Throw, and down tilt, would compensate the nerfs in the long run. However, as the metagame progressed, King Dedede's weaknesses became more apparent, and players realized the changes to game mechanics not only significantly hurt the character, but that he had indeed lost more than what he gained from the transition. Despite good results from players such as {{Sm|Big D}} and {{Sm|El_Bardo}}, with the former notably placing 17th at {{Trn|Paragon Los Angeles 2015}}, expectations of him worsened as time passed. As a result, King Dedede was ranked 46th on the first [[tier list]], confirming his status as a bottom-tier character.
{{Trophy/Fighter
|name=King Dedede
|image-3ds=KingDededeTrophy3DS.png
|image-wiiu=KingDededeTrophyWiiU.png
|mode=Classic
|desc-3ds-ntsc=He calls himself the King of Dream Land, but he doesn't have a lot of interest in ruling. He really loves to eat, so it's no surprise he's a heavyweight fighter. Despite his size and low speed, he can easily recover with his four jumps. His Jet Hammer will leave a mark on everyone he meets.
|desc-wiiu-ntsc=He calls himself the King of Dream Land, but he doesn't have a lot of interest in ruling. He really loves to eat, so it's no surprise he's a heavyweight fighter. Despite his size and low speed, he can easily recover with his five jumps. His Jet Hammer will leave a mark on everyone he meets.
|desc-pal=Being a self-proclaimed king, Dedede clearly doesn't care too much about the whole "politics" thing. He's just a bit greedy. In this game, his weight and hefty hammer make him slow, but he can still jump four times in mid-air anyway, making it easy for him to get back to the stage. Fully charge his Jet Hammer for ultimate destruction.
|gamelist={{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1=Kirby's Dream Land|release1=08/1992|console2=3DS|game2=Kirby: Triple Deluxe|release2=05/2014}}
}}
{{clrl}}


Despite the great advancements brought to his metagame as well as decent results, King Dedede's air speed was nerfed in update [[1.1.4]]. Although the nerf seemed minor, it made King Dedede the slowest character in the air, worsening both his neutral game and recovery. As a result, opinions on him declined even further, with many players considering him one of the worst characters in the game. This negative reputation led to a drop to 52nd on the second tier list, where he has remained ever since, although due to the bottom-tier being abolished in the third tier list, he has since been reassessed as a low-tier character.
{{Trophy/Fighter
|name=King Dedede (Alt.)
|image-3ds=KingDededeAltTrophy3DS.png
|image-wiiu=KingDededeAltTrophyWiiU.png
|mode=Alt
|desc-3ds-ntsc=For the Gordo Throw side special, King Dedede sends a Gordo bouncing with a hammer strike. It bounces off walls—or sometimes gets stuck in them. After a while it'll disappear. If an enemy hits one, it'll bounce back toward you. Use the special again to whack it back at them!
|desc-wiiu-ntsc=For the Gordo Throw side special, King Dedede sends a Gordo bouncing with a hammer strike. It bounces off walls—or sometimes gets stuck in them. After a while it'll disappear. If an enemy hits the Gordo, it'll bounce back toward you. Use the special again to whack it back at them!
|desc-pal=For the Gordo Throw side special, King Dedede hits a Gordo with his hammer, sending it bouncing along the stage. It'll bounce off walls, or sometimes get stuck in them. Then, after a while, it'll disappear. If an enemy hits the Gordo with an attack, it'll fly back towards you. Use the special again to whack it back at them!
|gamelist={{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1=Kirby's Dream Land|release1=08/1992|console2=3DS|game2=Kirby: Triple Deluxe|release2=05/2014}}
}}
{{clrl}}


It wasn't until the final year of ''Smash 4''{{'}}s active competitive lifespan when opinions on King Dedede finally saw a shift. {{Sm|ZAKI}}, a King Dedede player from Japan, made his debut outside of his country, placing 17th at both {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 4}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}}, notably defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}} in the latter. Although it may be the result of matchup inexperience, as ZAKI performed worse back in Japan, his results convinced several players such as {{Sm|Raito}} that King Dedede was not the worst character in the game, due to King Dedede's improved representation compared to other low- and mid-tier characters. Nevertheless, King Dedede is seen as a shell of his former ''Brawl'' self and is considered non-viable in the competitive metagame.
{{Trophy/Fighter
 
|name=Dedede Burst
==Trophies==
|image=DededeBurstTrophyWiiU.png
:'''King Dedede'''
|desc-ntsc=For Dedede's Final Smash, he takes a deep breath, pulling his foes toward him. Once he's gotten them right where he wants them, he'll unleash blows from his giant burning hammer. Topping things off is an explosive from the end of the hammer, sending enemies flying. Could this be worse for his foes? Yes! He's invincible the whole time too!
::{{flag|ntsc}} ''He calls himself the King of Dream Land, but he doesn't have a lot of interest in ruling. He really loves to eat, so it's no surprise he's a heavyweight fighter. Despite his size and low speed, he can easily recover with his four jumps. His Jet Hammer will leave a mark on everyone he meets.''
|desc-pal=For Dedede's Final Smash, he inhales fiercely to pull foes towards him. Once he's got them right where he wants them, he thrashes them with a giant burning hammer. Then, to top it off, he fires an explosive from his hammer, sending them blasting off. Could it get any worse? Well... yes Dedede's invincible the entire time.
 
|game=ssb4-wiiu
::{{flag|pal}} ''Being a self-proclaimed king, Dedede clearly doesn't care too much about the whole "politics" thing. He's just a bit greedy. In this game, his weight and hefty hammer make him slow, but he can still jump four times in mid-air anyway, making it easy for him to get back to the stage. Fully charge his Jet Hammer for ultimate destruction.''
}}
 
{{clrl}}
{{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1=Kirby's Dream Land (08/1992)|console2=3DS|game2=Kirby: Triple Deluxe (05/2014)}}
 
:'''King Dedede (Alt.)'''
::{{flag|ntsc}} ''For the Gordo Throw side special, King Dedede sends a Gordo bouncing with a hammer strike. It bounces off walls—or sometimes gets stuck in them. After a while it'll disappear. If an enemy hits one, it'll bounce back toward you. Use the special again to whack it back at them!''
 
::{{flag|pal}} ''For the Gordo Throw side special, King Dedede hits a Gordo with his hammer, sending it bouncing along the stage. It'll bounce off walls, or sometimes get stuck in them. Then, after a while, it'll disappear. If an enemy hits the Gordo with an attack, it'll fly back towards you. Use the special again to whack it back at them!''
 
{{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1=Kirby's Dream Land (08/1992)|console2=3DS|game2=Kirby: Triple Deluxe (05/2014)}}
 
:'''Dedede Burst'''
::{{flag|ntsc}} ''For Dedede's Final Smash, he takes a deep breath, pulling his foes toward him. Once he's gotten them right where he wants them, he'll unleash blows from his giant burning hammer. Topping things off is an explosive from the end of the hammer, sending enemies flying. Could this be worse for his foes? Yes! He's invincible the whole time too!''
 
::{{flag|pal}} ''For Dedede's Final Smash, he inhales fiercely to pull foes towards him. Once he's got them right where he wants them, he thrashes them with a giant burning hammer. Then, to top it off, he fires an explosive from his hammer, sending them blasting off. Could it get any worse? Well... yes - Dedede's invincible the entire time.''
 
<center>
<gallery>
KingDededeTrophy3DS.png|Classic (3DS)
KingDededeAltTrophy3DS.png|Alt. (3DS)
KingDededeTrophyWiiU.png|Classic (Wii U)
KingDededeAltTrophyWiiU.png|Alt. (Wii U)
DededeBurstTrophyWiiU.png|[[Dedede Burst]]
</gallery>
</center>


==In [[Event Match]]es==
==In [[Event Match]]es==
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SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-5.jpg|Using [[Super Dedede Jump]].
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-5.jpg|Using [[Super Dedede Jump]].
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-6.jpg|Charging Jet Hammer while approaching {{SSB4|Fox}} using [[Fire Fox]].
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-6.jpg|Charging Jet Hammer while approaching {{SSB4|Fox}} using [[Fire Fox]].
File:King Dedede Dash Attack.png|Using his dash attack on {{SSB4|Little Mac}}.
King Dedede Dash Attack.png|Using his dash attack on {{SSB4|Little Mac}}.
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-7.jpg|King Dedede while [[stun]]ned.
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-7.jpg|King Dedede while [[stun]]ned.
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-8.jpg|King Dedede crouching in front of {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}...
SSB4 - King Dedede Screen-8.jpg|King Dedede crouching in front of {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}...
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*King Dedede has the longest [[star KO]] voice clip in the game. Its duration is so long that it can still be heard briefly even after the star KO. He and {{SSB4|Cloud}} are the only two characters with this quirk.
*King Dedede has the longest [[star KO]] voice clip in the game. Its duration is so long that it can still be heard briefly even after the star KO. He and {{SSB4|Cloud}} are the only two characters with this quirk.
*If King Dedede is [[footstool]]ed while performing his side taunt on the ''3DS'' version, the taunt will be cancelled, but Dedede's mouth will stay open for the same duration as the taunt usually lasts.
*If King Dedede is [[footstool]]ed while performing his side taunt on the ''3DS'' version, the taunt will be cancelled, but Dedede's mouth will stay open for the same duration as the taunt usually lasts.
*Despite one of the tips for ''Dream Land (64)'' in ''Smash 3DS'' stating that Dedede cannot appear in the background when Dedede is fighting, it's still possible in the game's [[Training Mode]] for both of them to appear at the same time.


==References==
==References==
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