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:{{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special}} | :{{Main|Peach (SSB4)/Down special}} | ||
[[File:Vegetable_SSB4.jpg|thumb|Peach plucking a vegetable in {{forwiiu}}.]] | [[File:Vegetable_SSB4.jpg|thumb|Peach plucking a vegetable in {{forwiiu}}.]] | ||
In '' | In ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', the move's sound effect was changed to the item pull sound effect heard in the international version of ''[[Super Mario Bros. 2]]''. The item pull sound effect is still heard if Peach pulls an item though. Besides its sound effect change, the move has been toned down in numerous ways. First of all, it takes Peach considerably longer to pull turnips (13 frames more), making it more punishable. Peach also lost her turnip edge cancel (in update [[1.0.4]]) as well as her turnip free pull and bone walking techniques, making it more committal to pull turnips. The move is also hindered by Peach's weaker item toss and her now negligible glide toss, hindering Peach's item game. The turnips themselves are also heavier like in ''Melee'', preventing them from being thrown as high and the stitch face turnips deal 7% less damage, making them considerably weaker. The probability of pulling items has also slightly decreased to {{fractions|1|100}}, with Peach having a {{fractions|1|166}} chance of pulling a Mr. Saturn, a {{fractions|1|250}} chance of pulling a Bob-omb and a 0% chance of pulling Beam Swords, making the latter impossible to pull now. The chances of pulling Mr. Saturn's and Bob-ombs are exactly stated within the game's tips section. In [[Home-Run Contest]], Peach now exclusively pulls out "dot-shaped eyes" Vegetables. | ||
Vegetable was more effective in the initial release of the game, as Peach not only retained her instant turnip pull technique by running off an edge, but she could also use her item toss with down special to cancel the landing lag of her aerials. Both of these techniques were removed in update 1.0.4 however. | Vegetable was more effective in the initial release of the game, as Peach not only retained her instant turnip pull technique by running off an edge, but she could also use her item toss with down special to cancel the landing lag of her aerials. Both of these techniques were removed in update 1.0.4 however. | ||
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:{{Main|Daisy (SSBU)/Down special}} | :{{Main|Daisy (SSBU)/Down special}} | ||
[[File:SSBUWebsitePeach5.jpg|thumb|Peach pulling out a vegetable in ''Ultimate''.]] | [[File:SSBUWebsitePeach5.jpg|thumb|Peach pulling out a vegetable in ''Ultimate''.]] | ||
In '' | In ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', turnips now bounce once they have hit the ground (though this is only aesthetic). In addition to this, the move has seen multiple improvements, increasing its potency. Peach now pulls turnips out of the ground slightly faster (though it is still noticeably slower than in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl''). All of the turnips are also more powerful, dealing more base damage and knockback, although the maximum damage increase from a turnip throw has been reduced to 7.4%, meaning that (without the 1v1 damage multiplier), Peach's turnips will often deal less damage when thrown. The move also benefits from Peach's grounded item tosses having less ending lag. as well as her improved mobility, faster/more reliable down tilt and her lower aerial landing lag, which can allow Peach to perform some devastating combos, which can even lead to [[0-death]]s. | ||
The item probabilities are still the same as in the previous game, with Bob-omb's being particularly more effective, as Peach can no longer get hit with her own Bob-omb explosion. | |||
Additionally, with Daisy being added as Peach's [[Echo Fighter]], she also has Vegetable as her down special which functions the same as Peach's. This was not the case in earlier versions however as previously, Daisy's turnips had the same knockback values as Peach's from the previous two games. This made Daisy's turnips weaker for edgeguarding, but they did have better combo potential at higher percentages. This was the only non-aesthetic difference between Daisy and Peach although in update 3.0.0, the knockback of Daisy's turnips were changed to match Peach's, suggesting that the previous difference was unintentional. | |||
Vegetable was more effective in earlier versions of the game, as Peach could pluck turnips faster and the turnips were more effective against shields. In update 3.0.0, turnips dealt less shield damage, as with many other projectiles and Daisy's turnips were changed to be the same as Peach's. In update 3.1.0, the move was also made a few frames slower, decreasing the safety of pulling turnips. | |||
Overall, Vegetable is even more effective than it was in the previous game, as it is slightly safer to pull turnips and the turnips themselves can lead into even more powerful combos due to Peach's various buffs, along with the game's universal changes. | |||
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