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==Split==
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These are 2 totally different charecters. if [[Luma]] and [[Pikmin]] can get a page surely these 2 can. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
These are 2 totally different charecters. if [[Luma]] and [[Pikmin]] can get a page surely these 2 can. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:58, June 11, 2019 (EDT)
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:::::If there is little point, then why oppose? As [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] put it, is does seem that a consensus has/had been reached. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 17:22, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::If there is little point, then why oppose? As [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] put it, is does seem that a consensus has/had been reached. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 17:22, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Clarification: "little point" to having a separate page for a character whose existence is entirely defined by her existence as part of another character's abilities. (Also this discussion isn't even close to consensus. It's about the furthest thing from it, honestly.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:26, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
::::::Clarification: "little point" to having a separate page for a character whose existence is entirely defined by her existence as part of another character's abilities. (Also this discussion isn't even close to consensus. It's about the furthest thing from it, honestly.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:26, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::Miles, just to let you know, you seem to be the only one still arguing that Kazooie should share a page. Everyone else has either changed their mind or is completely MIA at the moment. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 18:05, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::I was under that impression from a different discussion, but apparently I was wrong about a consensus not having been reached yet. I do know a consensus is based on the info users use to support their argument, but I am not sure which statements do that well. Maybe I can't identify that stuff as well as others like you can. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 17:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:::::::I was under that impression from a different discussion, but apparently I was wrong about a consensus not having been reached yet. I do know a consensus is based on the info users use to support their argument, but I am not sure which statements do that well. Maybe I can't identify that stuff as well as others like you can. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 17:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
It looks as I'm late to the party, but on opinions of the split I'm '''neutral with a lean towards support''' on this. I see it as DuckHunt, where the two characters are put together, but as they have two distinct personalities, they should be split. Ice Climbers do not retain a complex personality, as their interactions ingame are with barely any conversation. Regarding Rosalina and Luma, Luma branches off into other Lumas and explains lore, IC and DH do not with that much of an extent. Joker and Arsene split as the two have different personalities and are different in their home game. If Banjo and Kazooie have their own backstory and complex personalities and function as two separate entities, which from reading and skimming they do, then I believe a split is in play.
[[User:El&#39;s Bladeworks|Eletro]] ([[User talk:El&#39;s Bladeworks|talk]]) 19:10, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
:I still have doubts about Ice Climbers and Duck Hunt. They are not even a combination in the original game, it's only in ''Smash'' that they're combined. If our consensus is that only characters are discussed not fighters, then I don't see why they need to be merged. --[[User:Capstalker|Capstalker]] ([[User talk:Capstalker|talk]]) 00:05, June 20, 2019 (EDT)
I still want to say I'm opposed but I guess I'm in the minority. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 08:35, June 21, 2019 (EDT)
We've been easily a week since the opposition offered any argument besides "there isn't enough information on Kazooie to justify it", which Toomai pretty soundly rebuffed with his draft, and basically everyone who was opposed 1) has more-or-less changed their mind, 2) has admitted defeat, or 3) hasn't participated in the discussion since the most recent development, with Miles being the sole exception. If that's not a consensus, I don't know what is. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 00:30, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
Banjo and Kazooie [https://i.imgur.com/wiby7ov.png are separate characters]. Per wiki policy/tradition, the character pages should be separate. If a majority agree that an exception should be made in this case, that's one thing. But I believe that separate pages should be the default state with the burden of making the case for an exception on the people who want to have the two characters on one combined page (in other words, if this came down to 50/50 or no consensus, I think we should go with the established norm of separate pages because going against normal policy should be the action that requires clear majority support). --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 02:21, June 22, 2019 (EDT)