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::''It sure is hard to figure out exactly what constitutes trivia, isn’t it?'' — Masahiro Sakurai [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various38.html]
::''It sure is hard to figure out exactly what constitutes trivia, isn’t it?'' — Masahiro Sakurai [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/various38.html]


'''Trivia sections''' are to be used for miscellaneous facts that don't fit in anywhere else in a mainspace article, but are still sufficiently noteworthy to merit mention.   SmashWiki allows trivia sections, but it seems that users have a tendency to throw random facts into a trivia section instead of placing it in a more appropriate place within the bulk of the article. The main goal of this policy is to explain when it is appropriate for a fact to be in a trivia section, as well as to improve the existing trivia sections over the whole of the wiki.   
'''Trivia sections''' are to be used for miscellaneous facts that don't fit in anywhere else in a mainspace article, but are still sufficiently noteworthy to merit mention. SmashWiki allows trivia sections, but it seems that users have a tendency to throw random facts into a trivia section instead of placing it in a more appropriate place within the bulk of the article, or tend to fill a trivia section with whatever observation pops into their mind. The main goal of this guideline is to explain when it is appropriate for a fact to be in a trivia section, as well as to improve the existing trivia sections over the whole of the wiki.   


==Primary Guideline==
==Primary Guideline==
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===What Makes A Good Piece of Trivia===
===What Makes A Good Piece of Trivia===
*'''Noteworthiness.''' Saying something about a character model? A minor fact about a certain smash or throw? Add it.
*'''Noteworthiness.''' Saying something unusual about a character model? A unique fact about a character's move? Add it.
*'''Truth.''' All trivia must be verified.
*'''Truth.''' All trivia must be verified.
*'''Detail.''' Make sure the piece of trivia is fully explained and not left unclear.
*'''Detail.''' Make sure the piece of trivia is fully explained and not left unclear.
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===What Makes A Bad Piece of Trivia - with examples===
===What Makes A Bad Piece of Trivia - with examples===
*'''Ambiguity.''' "The laser move can KO on occasion." Which laser move? Blaster? Zero Laser? And what occasion? These need explaining, or else the line should be removed.
*'''Ambiguity.''' "The laser move can KO on occasion." Which laser move? Blaster? Zero Laser? And what occasion? These need explaining, or else the line should be removed.
*'''Irrelavance.''' "Despite moving like a human, Fox has a tail!" and the like should always be removed.
*'''Irrelevance.''' "Despite moving like a human, Fox has a tail!" and the like should always be removed.
*'''Obvious.''' "Bowser has a hard head, which he uses for some moves." Anything that can be deduced from simple observation is interesting to no one, and will only serve to inflate a trivia section.
*'''Opinion.''' "Falcon Punch is the most epic move ever." Your opinion can be whatever you want it to be, but it doesn't belong in the mainspace of this wiki.
*'''Opinion.''' "Falcon Punch is the most epic move ever." Your opinion can be whatever you want it to be, but it doesn't belong in the mainspace of this wiki.
*'''Speculative.''' "This costume might be influenced by some obscure Icelandic game no one has ever heard of." If it "might be," it doesn't belong.
*'''Speculative.''' "This costume might be influenced by some obscure Icelandic game no one has ever heard of." If it "might be," it doesn't belong. [[SmashWiki is not speculative]].
*'''Falsehoods.''' "Sonic can be unlocked in ''Melee'', it just hasn't been done yet." Straightforward; if it's not true, take it down.
*'''Falsehoods.''' "Sonic can be unlocked in ''Melee'', it just hasn't been done yet." Straightforward; if it's not true, take it down.
*'''Repetition.''' Check to make sure your fact isn't already somewhere in the article before adding it.
*'''Repetition.''' Check to make sure your fact isn't already somewhere in the article before adding it.
*'''Uninteresting.''' "Despite being very weak, Diddy Kong's up smash can KO in Sudden Death." Even if a piece of trivia doesn't fall under any of the above, it still shouldn't be added if it's just plain uninteresting. While it is subjective what constitutes as "uninteresting", as a general rule of thumb, avoid adding any observations of the banal, or stating some minor fact that's not at all unique to the fact's subject (such as the example used here).


===Other Guidelines===
===Other Guidelines===

Revision as of 21:45, June 25, 2013

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It sure is hard to figure out exactly what constitutes trivia, isn’t it? — Masahiro Sakurai [1]

Trivia sections are to be used for miscellaneous facts that don't fit in anywhere else in a mainspace article, but are still sufficiently noteworthy to merit mention. SmashWiki allows trivia sections, but it seems that users have a tendency to throw random facts into a trivia section instead of placing it in a more appropriate place within the bulk of the article, or tend to fill a trivia section with whatever observation pops into their mind. The main goal of this guideline is to explain when it is appropriate for a fact to be in a trivia section, as well as to improve the existing trivia sections over the whole of the wiki.

Primary Guideline

Trivia should only go under a trivia section if it doesn't belong in any other category of data within the article.

What Makes A Good Piece of Trivia

  • Noteworthiness. Saying something unusual about a character model? A unique fact about a character's move? Add it.
  • Truth. All trivia must be verified.
  • Detail. Make sure the piece of trivia is fully explained and not left unclear.
  • As explained previously, facts that can be part of the body of the article should be a part of it -- not in the trivia section.

What Makes A Bad Piece of Trivia - with examples

  • Ambiguity. "The laser move can KO on occasion." Which laser move? Blaster? Zero Laser? And what occasion? These need explaining, or else the line should be removed.
  • Irrelevance. "Despite moving like a human, Fox has a tail!" and the like should always be removed.
  • Obvious. "Bowser has a hard head, which he uses for some moves." Anything that can be deduced from simple observation is interesting to no one, and will only serve to inflate a trivia section.
  • Opinion. "Falcon Punch is the most epic move ever." Your opinion can be whatever you want it to be, but it doesn't belong in the mainspace of this wiki.
  • Speculative. "This costume might be influenced by some obscure Icelandic game no one has ever heard of." If it "might be," it doesn't belong. SmashWiki is not speculative.
  • Falsehoods. "Sonic can be unlocked in Melee, it just hasn't been done yet." Straightforward; if it's not true, take it down.
  • Repetition. Check to make sure your fact isn't already somewhere in the article before adding it.
  • Uninteresting. "Despite being very weak, Diddy Kong's up smash can KO in Sudden Death." Even if a piece of trivia doesn't fall under any of the above, it still shouldn't be added if it's just plain uninteresting. While it is subjective what constitutes as "uninteresting", as a general rule of thumb, avoid adding any observations of the banal, or stating some minor fact that's not at all unique to the fact's subject (such as the example used here).

Other Guidelines

  • Trivia must be on the right page. A minor glitch involving, say, Aether, belongs on Aether and not on Ike (SSBB) or Ike.
  • If a trivia section is overly long and you would like other members of the community to help trim it, tag the section with {{trivia}}:
Cleanup This trivia section is excessively long.
Relevant facts should be integrated into the body of the article and unnecessary ones should be removed.
You can discuss this issue on the talk page or edit this page to improve it.