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[[File:Item Throw Brawl.gif|thumb|right|250px|{{SSBB|King Dedede}} dash throwing a [[Home-Run Bat]] at {{SSBB|Kirby}} in ''Brawl''.]]
[[File:Item Throw Brawl.gif|thumb|right|250px|{{SSBB|King Dedede}} dash throwing a [[Home-Run Bat]] at {{SSBB|Kirby}} in ''Brawl''.]]


An '''item throw''' is an attack, performed when the character is holding an [[item]], and then pressing the grab button. Depending on the Analog Stick's position, the direction and strength of the throw will be different. The player can throw an item while in midair or on the ground.
An '''item throw''' or '''item toss''' is an action where a [[character]] throws the [[item]] they are holding, usually dealing damage in the process. This is performed by pressing a [[grab]] button (or alternatively, pressing both a [[shield]] and attack button), or simply an attack button if holding a standard throwable item. Depending on the [[control stick]]'s tilt angle and timing, items can be tossed in multiple directions with varying strengths.


==Directions and strength==
==Directions and strength==
{{incomplete|Item toss strength by fighter}}
Items can be tossed in up to four directions — forward, back, up, or down — by tilting the control stick in the appropriate direction and pressing the grab or attack button (depending on the item type). Akin to [[dash attack]]s and [[smash attack]]s, characters can also throw items while [[dash]]ing, ending the dash in the process, or [[tap]] the control stick in one of the four directions when pressing the button to throw the item with more strength. The latter is usually known as a '''smash throw'', and is denoted by a short flash alongside the character vocalising.
The player may choose to throw the item in one of 4 directions - up, left, right, down - by holding the desired direction while pressing the grab button. If the grab button is simply pressed without a directional input while holding a droppable item, the fighter will lightly toss the item behind them on the ground, or simply drop it on the spot if in the air, making it fall straight down. This is the basis of [[bat dropping]].


The item can be thrown with 2 different strengths: smash (grab and direction are pressed at the same time) or tilt (the direction is held before pressing grab). While on the ground, the player can even throw an item while dashing.
If the grab button is simply pressed without a directional input, the fighter lightly tosses the item behind them on the ground, or simply drops it and makes it fall straight down if in the air. This is known as an '''item drop''', or '''Z-drop''' for the aerial version, due to the [[Z button]] being the default grab button on the [[GameCube controller]]. Z-drops are notorious for not possessing any [[ending lag]], making them extremely useful for [[combo]]s with items, and the basis of [[bat dropping]]. While Z-drops can be performed with any throwable item, grounded item drops can only be done with certain items; others are simply thrown forward.


===Damage===
Heavy items, such as [[Barrel]]s and [[Crate]]s, can also be thrown in up to four directions and with a "smash" strength, but cannot be dash thrown, since characters are incapable of dashing while carrying them. They also cannot be Z-dropped, even by [[Donkey Kong]], who is capable of carrying heavy items in midair.
The damage done by thrown items is usually dependent on how fast the item is moving at the time of impact; this is the only reason smash throws are stronger than tilt ones. In ''SSB64'', the formula is <code>base + (speed * 0.1)</code>, while the damage is halved if the item is simply dropped instead of thrown;<ref>http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/Item.html</ref> the formula in the other games is likely similar if not identical. There are some items, however, whose damage is determined differently: for example, a thrown [[Bonus Fruit]]'s damage depends only by which fruit it is and the item toss strength of the fighter who threw it, and not on its speed.


===Delay===
===List of droppable items on the ground===
There is a small delay animation in each character prior to throwing an item. This delay is not equal in all characters. Some characters including Link, Mario, and Diddy Kong throw their items more quickly than Marth, Pikachu, and Bowser.
*All battering items ([[Beam Sword]], [[Death's Scythe]], [[Fan]], [[Fire Bar]], [[Home-Run Bat]], [[Killing Edge]], [[Lip's Stick]], [[Ore Club]], [[Parasol]], and [[Star Rod]])
 
*All shooting items ([[Banana Gun]], [[Cracker Launcher]], {{b|Drill|item}}, [[Fire Flower]], [[Gust Bellows]], [[Rage Blaster]], [[Ramblin' Evil Mushroom]], [[Ray Gun]], [[Staff]], [[Steel Diver]], and [[Super Scope]])
==List of droppable items==
*[[Beam Sword]]
*[[Lip's Stick]]
*[[Star Rod]]
*[[Parasol]]
*[[Fire Bar]]
*[[Ore Club]]
*[[Home-Run Bat]]
*[[Fan]]
*[[Super Scope]]
*[[Ray Gun]]
*[[Fire Flower]]
*[[Cracker Launcher]]
*[[Drill (item)|Drill]]
*[[Gust Bellows]]
*[[Steel Diver]]
*[[Cloaking Device]]
*[[Flipper]]
*[[Flipper]]
*[[Yoshi's Egg (item)|Yoshi's Egg]]
*[[Special Flag]]
*[[Special Flag]]
*[[Rage Blaster]]
*[[Yoshi's Egg (item)|Yoshi's Egg in ''Melee'']]
*[[Staff]]
 
*[[Death's Scythe]]
==Item throw damage==
*[[Killing Edge]]
{{technical data|Details for ''Melee'' and ''Brawl''}}
*[[Ramblin' Evil Mushroom]]
Unlike characters' attacks, in all ''Super Smash Bros.'' games, the [[damage]] dealt by thrown items takes into account not only by the base damage coded in their [[hitbox]]es, but the speed at which they impact the target. This speed is initially determined by the item's '''toss strength''', which is different for each kind of item throw and each character; [[Weight|heavier]] characters have greater toss strengths, and smash throws further increase it.
 
After the item is thrown, its speed is modified by physics, usually causing it to deal slightly more damage as it first accelerates in the thrown direction, then gradually decay in damage until it stops moving. As a result, damage from thrown items is highly volatile and difficult for players to determine precisely. The damage determined by this mechanism is also fully considered for the item's [[knockback]] calculation, giving smash throws a remarkable increase in KO power.
 
In ''Smash 64'', the damage formula for thrown items is <code>d + speed * 0.1</code>, with '''d''' being the item's base damage. If the item is dropped instead of thrown, the base damage is halved.<ref>http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/Item.html</ref> Later games use a similar formula, though with altered factors due to the difference in speed units.
 
In ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'', the formula is <code>d - 0.4 + speed * 3</code>, where '''speed''' is initially equal to a value depending on the kind of item throw used, multiplied by the character's item toss strength. For a grounded item drop, the base damage is halved.
 
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!rowspan=2|Item throw type!!colspan=2|Light item!!colspan=2|Heavy item
|-
!Normal strength!!Smash strength!!Normal strength!!Smash strength
|-
|Forward/back||2.6||3.64||3.4||4.4
|-
|Up||3.1||4.1||4.8||6
|-
|Down||3.3 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>2.5 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||4.62 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>2.5 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||4.8 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>4.2 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||6 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>4.2 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|Dash||3.4||colspan=3|N/A
|-
|Drop||2.1||colspan=3|N/A
|}
 
For example, a [[Capsule]]'s base damage is 8%, so if it hits as early as possible and is thrown forward by a character with standard toss strength (such as [[Cloud]]), it deals 15.4% with a normal throw, and 18.52% with a smash throw (assuming it doesn't explode). Worth noting is this formula is only used for the item's throw portion; for example, a [[Motion-Sensor Bomb]] or [[POW Block]] uses it when thrown at an opponent, but not for its subsequent detonation.
 
Since an aerial item drop (Z-drop) simply releases it with no initial speed, hitting with one as early as possible will consistently cause damage equal to the item's base damage minus the 0.4 modifier.
 
===Items with unique damage factors===
Certain items use different factors for their throw damage formula, as well as additional multipliers for throw speed, giving them less of an increase relative to their base damage. This is prominently used for items produced by characters, such as [[Peach]]'s [[Vegetable]]s or the different Links' {{b|Bomb|Link}}s, preventing them from being too powerful compared to other [[projectile]]s.
 
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
!Item!!Base damage modifier!!Speed damage multiplier!!Throw speed multiplier
|-
|[[Banana Gun]]||-0.4||2.5||0.85
|-
|[[Banana Peel]]||1||1.7||0.85
|-
|'''[[Barrel]]'''||-0.4||0.8||0.5 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>0.6 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[Beastball]]||-0.8||0.8||1
|-
|'''[[Blast Box]]'''||-0.4||3||0.6
|-
|[[Bombchu]]||-0.4||1||0.8
|-
|'''[[Crate]]'''||-0.4||1.6||0.7
|-
|[[Cucco]]||-0.4||3 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>2 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||1
|-
|[[Deku Nut]]||-0.8||3||1
|-
|{{b|Drill|item}}||-0.4||3||1.1 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>1 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[Fairy Bottle]]||-0.4||3||0.8
|-
|[[Fire Flower]]||-0.4||3||0.7
|-
|[[Freezie]]||-0.4||2||1
|-
|[[Gust Bellows]]||-0.4||3||0.7
|-
|[[Hocotate Bomb]]||-0.4||1||0.7
|-
|[[Home-Run Contest]] [[Home-Run Bat|Bat]]||-0.4||2||1
|-
|[[Hothead]]||-0.4||3||0.9
|-
|[[Lip's Stick]]||-0.4||1.5||1
|-
|[[Mr. Saturn]]||-0.4||1.5||0.82
|-
|'''[[Party Ball]]'''||-0.4||3||0.8
|-
|[[POW Block]]||-0.4||1||1
|-
|[[Rage Blaster]]||-0.4||2.5||1
|-
|'''[[Rolling Crate]]'''||-0.4||2.4||0.7 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>0.76 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[Smoke Ball]]||-0.4||3||0.9
|-
|[[Steel Diver]]||-0.4||3||0.7 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>1.1 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[X Bomb]]||-0.4||1||0.9
|-
|[[King K. Rool]]'s [[Crownerang]]||-0.4||1.5||1
|-
|[[Link]]'s [[Bow and Arrows|arrow]] {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||-0.4||0.8||1
|-
|Link's {{b|Bomb|Link}} {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}||-0.4||2||1
|-
|Link's [[Remote Bomb]] {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||0||0||0.72
|-
|[[Peach]] and [[Daisy]]'s [[Vegetable]]s||-0.4||1 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>3 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||1 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>0.7 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[R.O.B.]]'s [[Gyro]]||-0.4||2 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>1.18 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||0.7 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>1 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[Robin]]'s tomes and [[Levin Sword]]||-0.4||3 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>2.2 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||1
|-
|[[Sheik]]'s [[Burst Grenade]]||-0.4||1||1
|-
|[[Simon]] and [[Richter]]'s [[Holy Water]]||0||0.5||0.81
|-
|[[Snake]]'s [[Cardboard Box]]||-0.4||1||0.6
|-
|[[Snake]]'s [[Hand Grenade]]||-0.4||1||1
|-
|[[Toon Link]]'s Bomb||-0.4 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>0 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}||1||1 {{GameIcon|ssb4|20px}}<br>0.7 {{GameIcon|ssbu|20px}}
|-
|[[Wario]]'s [[Wario Bike|Bike]]||-0.4||3||0.6
|-
|[[Young Link]]'s Bomb||0||0.2||0.72
|-
|[[Mario Bros.]] enemies||-0.4||1.5||1.1
|}
 
Additionally, there are a few items that ignore the damage formula altogether, and always use their base damage regardless of their throw speed:
*[[Boomerang]] (deals more damage in steady increments each time it is caught and rethrown)
*[[Green Shell]] (deals different damage when thrown and when sliding on the ground)
*[[Pyukumuku]]
*[[Smart Bomb]]
*[[Spiny Shell]]
*[[Bowser Jr.]]'s [[Mechakoopa]]
*[[Mega Man]]'s [[Metal Blade]]
*[[Pac-Man]]'s [[Bonus Fruit]]
*[[Villager]]'s wood chip from [[Timber]]
*Fruit in [[Tortimer Island]]
 
Oddly enough, items thrown by [[Jigglypuff]] have their base damage reduced by 0.95×<!--Confirmed for Smash 4 and Ultimate; not sure about earlier games but it's probably also the case-->. Every other character uses the standard amount.
 
===Character item toss strengths===
Each character has a specific item toss strength coded, which is another factor for thrown items' speed in the damage formula. However, they are by convention correlated to [[weight]], matching the result of the formula <code>1 + (weight - 100) / 300</code>. For example, [[Bowser]] in ''Smash 4'' has a weight of 130 with an item toss strength of 1.1×, so he initially deals 16.18% damage when normally throwing a Capsule forward; in ''Ultimate'', his weight and item toss strength are increased to 133 and 1.11667×, respectively, so he deals 16.31% damage in this same situation. Conversely, [[Zelda]] in both games has a weight of 85 with an item toss strength of 0.95×, so she deals 15.01% damage in this situation.
 
==Frame data==
Each character has slightly different [[startup]] and [[ending lag]] frames when throwing items. These differ for each kind of throw, but not between normal and smash throws of the same kind.
 
===In ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate''===
Total frames and aerial throw data only apply to ''Smash 4''. ''Ultimate'' only carries over grounded throw data, and gives every character 24 total frames for their forward and back throws, 23 for their up throw and grounded item drop, 19 for their down throw, and 29 for their dash throw.
 
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
!rowspan=2|Character!!colspan=2|Forward throw!!colspan=2|Back throw!!colspan=2|Up throw!!colspan=2|Down throw!!colspan=2|Dash throw!!colspan=2|Ground drop
|-
!Throw!!Total!!Throw!!Total!!Throw!!Total!!Throw!!Total!!Throw!!Total!!Throw!!Total
|-
|{{CharHead|Mario|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Donkey Kong|SSBU}}||10||38 <small>(ground)</small><br>37 <small>(air)</small>||14||38 <small>(ground)</small><br>34 <small>(air)</small>||15||38 <small>(ground)</small><br>36 <small>(air)</small>||8||30 <small>(ground)</small><br>28 <small>(air)</small>||6||39||7||27
|-
|{{CharHead|Link|SSBU}}||7||20||9||20||11||20||6||18||4||18||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Samus|SSBU}}<br>{{CharHead|Dark Samus|SSBU}}||8||25||11||25||12||24||7||20||5||38||6||24
|-
|{{CharHead|Yoshi|SSBU}}||8||20||7||20||8||20||7 <small>(ground)</small><br>8 <small>(air)</small>||18||7||35||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Kirby|SSBU}}||8||24 <small>(ground)</small><br>25 <small>(air)</small>||11||24 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||12||23 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||7||23||5||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Fox|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Pikachu|SSBU}}||12 <small>(ground)</small><br>10 <small>(air)</small>||28 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||14||28 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||15 <small>(ground)</small><br>14 <small>(air)</small>||28 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||8||21||5||38||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Luigi|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||7||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Ness|SSBU}}||7 <small>(ground)</small><br>8 <small>(air)</small>||24||11||24||12 <small>(ground)</small><br>13 <small>(air)</small>||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Captain Falcon|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Jigglypuff|SSBU}}||12 <small>(ground)</small><br>9 <small>(air)</small>||29||12 <small>(ground)</small><br>7 <small>(air)</small>||29||13 <small>(ground)</small><br>7 <small>(air)</small>||29||7||24 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||4||39||6||24
|-
|{{CharHead|Peach|SSBU}}<br>{{CharHead|Daisy|SSBU}}||8||26 <small>(ground)</small><br>24 <small>(air)</small>||11||26 <small>(ground)</small><br>24 <small>(air)</small>||11||25 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||7||21 <small>(ground)</small><br>19 <small>(air)</small>||5||37||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Bowser|SSBU}}||10||29||13||29||17 <small>(ground)</small><br>15 <small>(air)</small>||29||8||21||7||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Ice Climbers|SSBU}}||8||''24''||9||''24''||11||''24''||6||''24''||4||''24''||5||''24''
|-
|{{CharHead|Sheik|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||11 <small>(ground)</small><br>12 <small>(air)</small>||23||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>7 <small>(air)</small>||19||6||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Zelda|SSBU}}||10 <small>(ground)</small><br>7 <small>(air)</small>||27 <small>(ground)</small><br>25 <small>(air)</small>||10 <small>(ground)</small><br>9 <small>(air)</small>||27 <small>(ground)</small><br>25 <small>(air)</small>||11||23 <small>(ground)</small><br>27 <small>(air)</small>||9||25||5||41||5||24
|-
|{{CharHead|Dr. Mario|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Pichu|SSBU}}||13||''24''||10||''24''||12||''23''||14||''19''||5||''29''||7||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Falco|SSBU}}||9||24||12||24||13||23||8||19||6||37||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Marth|SSBU}}<br>{{CharHead|Lucina|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||29||8||21||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Young Link|SSBU}}||8||''24''||10||''24''||12||''23''||6||''19''||5||''29''||6||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Ganondorf|SSBU}}||9 <small>(ground)</small><br>6 <small>(air)</small>||25 <small>(ground)</small><br>21 <small>(air)</small>||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>7 <small>(air)</small>||23||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>6 <small>(air)</small>||26 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>6 <small>(air)</small>||23||5||39||8||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mewtwo|SSBU}}||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>9 <small>(air)</small>||24||11||24||12||23||9||19||7||37||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Roy|SSBU}}<br>{{CharHead|Chrom|SSBU}}||10||24||14||24||15||23||8||19||6||37||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mr. Game & Watch|SSBU}}||11||24||11||24||11||23||11||19||12||37||10||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Meta Knight|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||6||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Pit|SSBU}}<br>{{CharHead|Dark Pit|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||39||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Zero Suit Samus|SSBU}}||7||20||9||20||11||20||6||18||4||34||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Wario|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||29||8||21||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Snake|SSBU}}||8||''24''||11||''24''||12||''23''||7||''19''||5||''29''||6||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Ike|SSBU}}||11||29||14||29||15||29||8||21||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Squirtle|SSBU}}||8||''24''||11||''24''||12||''23''||7||''19''||5||''29''||6||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Ivysaur|SSBU}}||8||''24''||11||''24''||12||''23''||7||''19''||5||''29''||6||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Charizard|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||21 <small>(ground)</small><br>29 <small>(air)</small>||8||29 <small>(ground)</small><br>21 <small>(air)</small>||6||38||8||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Diddy Kong|SSBU}}||7||20||9||20||11||20||6||18||4||35||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Lucas|SSBU}}||7 <small>(ground)</small><br>8 <small>(air)</small>||24||11||24||12 <small>(ground)</small><br>13 <small>(air)</small>||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Sonic|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|King Dedede|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||29||8||21 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Olimar|SSBU}}||8||24||11||25||12||23||7||20||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Lucario|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||36||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|R.O.B.|SSBU}}||7||20||9||20||11||20||6||18||4||35||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Toon Link|SSBU}}||7||20||9||20||11||20||6||18||4||35||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Wolf|SSBU}}||8||''24''||11||''24''||12||''23''||7||''19''||5||''29''||6||''23''
|-
|{{CharHead|Villager|SSBU}}||11 <small>(ground)</small><br>10 <small>(air)</small>||23 <small>(ground)</small><br>24 <small>(air)</small>||11 <small>(ground)</small><br>10 <small>(air)</small>||24||10||23||10 <small>(ground)</small><br>9 <small>(air)</small>||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mega Man|SSBU}}||11||24||11||24||11||23||11||19||11||37||11||29
|-
|{{CharHead|Wii Fit Trainer|SSBU}}||10||26||10||24 <small>(ground)</small><br>26 <small>(air)</small>||11||25 <small>(ground)</small><br>28 <small>(air)</small>||9||24 <small>(ground)</small><br>26 <small>(air)</small>||5||41||5||24
|-
|{{CharHead|Rosalina|SSBU}}||8 <small>(ground)</small><br>10 <small>(air)</small>||26 <small>(ground)</small><br>24 <small>(air)</small>||11||26 <small>(ground)</small><br>24 <small>(air)</small>||11||25 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||10 <small>(ground)</small><br>11 <small>(air)</small>||21 <small>(ground)</small><br>19 <small>(air)</small>||10||37||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Little Mac|SSBU}}||10||24||11||24||10||23||10 <small>(ground)</small><br>9 <small>(air)</small>||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Greninja|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||29||8||21||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mii Brawler|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mii Swordfighter|SSBU}}||10||20||14||20||15||20||8||18||6||45||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Mii Gunner|SSBU}}||8||25||11||25||12||24||7||20||5||38||5||24
|-
|{{CharHead|Palutena|SSBU}}||7||27 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||9||27 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||11||27 <small>(ground)</small><br>23 <small>(air)</small>||6||21||4||39||5||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Pac-Man|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Robin|SSBU}}||10||29||14||29||15||29||8||21||6||39||7||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Shulk|SSBU}}||10||24||13 <small>(ground)</small><br>14 <small>(air)</small>||24||15 <small>(ground)</small><br>14 <small>(air)</small>||23||8||19||6||37||6||27
|-
|{{CharHead|Bowser Jr.|SSBU}}||8||24||11||24||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
|-
|{{CharHead|Duck Hunt|SSBU}}||7||23||11||23||12||23||7||19||5||37||6||23
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Revision as of 22:15, August 19, 2021

King Dedede dash throwing a Home-Run Bat at Kirby in Brawl.

An item throw or item toss is an action where a character throws the item they are holding, usually dealing damage in the process. This is performed by pressing a grab button (or alternatively, pressing both a shield and attack button), or simply an attack button if holding a standard throwable item. Depending on the control stick's tilt angle and timing, items can be tossed in multiple directions with varying strengths.

Directions and strength

Items can be tossed in up to four directions — forward, back, up, or down — by tilting the control stick in the appropriate direction and pressing the grab or attack button (depending on the item type). Akin to dash attacks and smash attacks, characters can also throw items while dashing, ending the dash in the process, or tap the control stick in one of the four directions when pressing the button to throw the item with more strength. The latter is usually known as a 'smash throw, and is denoted by a short flash alongside the character vocalising.

If the grab button is simply pressed without a directional input, the fighter lightly tosses the item behind them on the ground, or simply drops it and makes it fall straight down if in the air. This is known as an item drop, or Z-drop for the aerial version, due to the Z button being the default grab button on the GameCube controller. Z-drops are notorious for not possessing any ending lag, making them extremely useful for combos with items, and the basis of bat dropping. While Z-drops can be performed with any throwable item, grounded item drops can only be done with certain items; others are simply thrown forward.

Heavy items, such as Barrels and Crates, can also be thrown in up to four directions and with a "smash" strength, but cannot be dash thrown, since characters are incapable of dashing while carrying them. They also cannot be Z-dropped, even by Donkey Kong, who is capable of carrying heavy items in midair.

List of droppable items on the ground

Item throw damage

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Unlike characters' attacks, in all Super Smash Bros. games, the damage dealt by thrown items takes into account not only by the base damage coded in their hitboxes, but the speed at which they impact the target. This speed is initially determined by the item's toss strength, which is different for each kind of item throw and each character; heavier characters have greater toss strengths, and smash throws further increase it.

After the item is thrown, its speed is modified by physics, usually causing it to deal slightly more damage as it first accelerates in the thrown direction, then gradually decay in damage until it stops moving. As a result, damage from thrown items is highly volatile and difficult for players to determine precisely. The damage determined by this mechanism is also fully considered for the item's knockback calculation, giving smash throws a remarkable increase in KO power.

In Smash 64, the damage formula for thrown items is d + speed * 0.1, with d being the item's base damage. If the item is dropped instead of thrown, the base damage is halved.[1] Later games use a similar formula, though with altered factors due to the difference in speed units.

In Smash 4 and Ultimate, the formula is d - 0.4 + speed * 3, where speed is initially equal to a value depending on the kind of item throw used, multiplied by the character's item toss strength. For a grounded item drop, the base damage is halved.

Item throw type Light item Heavy item
Normal strength Smash strength Normal strength Smash strength
Forward/back 2.6 3.64 3.4 4.4
Up 3.1 4.1 4.8 6
Down 3.3 Super Smash Bros. 4
2.5 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 4.62 Super Smash Bros. 4
2.5 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 4.8 Super Smash Bros. 4
4.2 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 6 Super Smash Bros. 4
4.2 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Dash 3.4 N/A
Drop 2.1 N/A

For example, a Capsule's base damage is 8%, so if it hits as early as possible and is thrown forward by a character with standard toss strength (such as Cloud), it deals 15.4% with a normal throw, and 18.52% with a smash throw (assuming it doesn't explode). Worth noting is this formula is only used for the item's throw portion; for example, a Motion-Sensor Bomb or POW Block uses it when thrown at an opponent, but not for its subsequent detonation.

Since an aerial item drop (Z-drop) simply releases it with no initial speed, hitting with one as early as possible will consistently cause damage equal to the item's base damage minus the 0.4 modifier.

Items with unique damage factors

Certain items use different factors for their throw damage formula, as well as additional multipliers for throw speed, giving them less of an increase relative to their base damage. This is prominently used for items produced by characters, such as Peach's Vegetables or the different Links' Bombs, preventing them from being too powerful compared to other projectiles.

Item Base damage modifier Speed damage multiplier Throw speed multiplier
Banana Gun -0.4 2.5 0.85
Banana Peel 1 1.7 0.85
Barrel -0.4 0.8 0.5 Super Smash Bros. 4
0.6 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Beastball -0.8 0.8 1
Blast Box -0.4 3 0.6
Bombchu -0.4 1 0.8
Crate -0.4 1.6 0.7
Cucco -0.4 3 Super Smash Bros. 4
2 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 1
Deku Nut -0.8 3 1
Drill -0.4 3 1.1 Super Smash Bros. 4
1 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Fairy Bottle -0.4 3 0.8
Fire Flower -0.4 3 0.7
Freezie -0.4 2 1
Gust Bellows -0.4 3 0.7
Hocotate Bomb -0.4 1 0.7
Home-Run Contest Bat -0.4 2 1
Hothead -0.4 3 0.9
Lip's Stick -0.4 1.5 1
Mr. Saturn -0.4 1.5 0.82
Party Ball -0.4 3 0.8
POW Block -0.4 1 1
Rage Blaster -0.4 2.5 1
Rolling Crate -0.4 2.4 0.7 Super Smash Bros. 4
0.76 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Smoke Ball -0.4 3 0.9
Steel Diver -0.4 3 0.7 Super Smash Bros. 4
1.1 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
X Bomb -0.4 1 0.9
King K. Rool's Crownerang -0.4 1.5 1
Link's arrow Super Smash Bros. Ultimate -0.4 0.8 1
Link's Bomb Super Smash Bros. 4 -0.4 2 1
Link's Remote Bomb Super Smash Bros. Ultimate 0 0 0.72
Peach and Daisy's Vegetables -0.4 1 Super Smash Bros. 4
3 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 1 Super Smash Bros. 4
0.7 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
R.O.B.'s Gyro -0.4 2 Super Smash Bros. 4
1.18 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 0.7 Super Smash Bros. 4
1 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Robin's tomes and Levin Sword -0.4 3 Super Smash Bros. 4
2.2 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 1
Sheik's Burst Grenade -0.4 1 1
Simon and Richter's Holy Water 0 0.5 0.81
Snake's Cardboard Box -0.4 1 0.6
Snake's Hand Grenade -0.4 1 1
Toon Link's Bomb -0.4 Super Smash Bros. 4
0 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate		 1 1 Super Smash Bros. 4
0.7 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Wario's Bike -0.4 3 0.6
Young Link's Bomb 0 0.2 0.72
Mario Bros. enemies -0.4 1.5 1.1

Additionally, there are a few items that ignore the damage formula altogether, and always use their base damage regardless of their throw speed:

Oddly enough, items thrown by Jigglypuff have their base damage reduced by 0.95×. Every other character uses the standard amount.

Character item toss strengths

Each character has a specific item toss strength coded, which is another factor for thrown items' speed in the damage formula. However, they are by convention correlated to weight, matching the result of the formula 1 + (weight - 100) / 300. For example, Bowser in Smash 4 has a weight of 130 with an item toss strength of 1.1×, so he initially deals 16.18% damage when normally throwing a Capsule forward; in Ultimate, his weight and item toss strength are increased to 133 and 1.11667×, respectively, so he deals 16.31% damage in this same situation. Conversely, Zelda in both games has a weight of 85 with an item toss strength of 0.95×, so she deals 15.01% damage in this situation.

Frame data

Each character has slightly different startup and ending lag frames when throwing items. These differ for each kind of throw, but not between normal and smash throws of the same kind.

In Smash 4 and Ultimate

Total frames and aerial throw data only apply to Smash 4. Ultimate only carries over grounded throw data, and gives every character 24 total frames for their forward and back throws, 23 for their up throw and grounded item drop, 19 for their down throw, and 29 for their dash throw.

Character Forward throw Back throw Up throw Down throw Dash throw Ground drop
Throw Total Throw Total Throw Total Throw Total Throw Total Throw Total
MarioHeadSSBU.png Mario 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
DonkeyKongHeadSSBU.png Donkey Kong 10 38 (ground)
37 (air)		 14 38 (ground)
34 (air)		 15 38 (ground)
36 (air)		 8 30 (ground)
28 (air)		 6 39 7 27
LinkHeadSSBU.png Link 7 20 9 20 11 20 6 18 4 18 5 23
SamusHeadSSBU.png Samus
DarkSamusHeadSSBU.png Dark Samus		 8 25 11 25 12 24 7 20 5 38 6 24
YoshiHeadSSBU.png Yoshi 8 20 7 20 8 20 7 (ground)
8 (air)		 18 7 35 6 23
KirbyHeadSSBU.png Kirby 8 24 (ground)
25 (air)		 11 24 (ground)
29 (air)		 12 23 (ground)
29 (air)		 7 23 5 39 7 23
FoxHeadSSBU.png Fox 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
PikachuHeadSSBU.png Pikachu 12 (ground)
10 (air)		 28 (ground)
29 (air)		 14 28 (ground)
29 (air)		 15 (ground)
14 (air)		 28 (ground)
29 (air)		 8 21 5 38 7 23
LuigiHeadSSBU.png Luigi 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 7 37 6 23
NessHeadSSBU.png Ness 7 (ground)
8 (air)		 24 11 24 12 (ground)
13 (air)		 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
CaptainFalconHeadSSBU.png Captain Falcon 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
JigglypuffHeadSSBU.png Jigglypuff 12 (ground)
9 (air)		 29 12 (ground)
7 (air)		 29 13 (ground)
7 (air)		 29 7 24 (ground)
29 (air)		 4 39 6 24
PeachHeadSSBU.png Peach
DaisyHeadSSBU.png Daisy		 8 26 (ground)
24 (air)		 11 26 (ground)
24 (air)		 11 25 (ground)
23 (air)		 7 21 (ground)
19 (air)		 5 37 7 23
BowserHeadSSBU.png Bowser 10 29 13 29 17 (ground)
15 (air)		 29 8 21 7 39 7 23
IceClimbersHeadSSBU.png Ice Climbers 8 24 9 24 11 24 6 24 4 24 5 24
SheikHeadSSBU.png Sheik 8 24 11 24 11 (ground)
12 (air)		 23 8 (ground)
7 (air)		 19 6 37 6 23
ZeldaHeadSSBU.png Zelda 10 (ground)
7 (air)		 27 (ground)
25 (air)		 10 (ground)
9 (air)		 27 (ground)
25 (air)		 11 23 (ground)
27 (air)		 9 25 5 41 5 24
DrMarioHeadSSBU.png Dr. Mario 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
PichuHeadSSBU.png Pichu 13 24 10 24 12 23 14 19 5 29 7 23
FalcoHeadSSBU.png Falco 9 24 12 24 13 23 8 19 6 37 7 23
MarthHeadSSBU.png Marth
LucinaHeadSSBU.png Lucina		 10 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 6 39 7 23
YoungLinkHeadSSBU.png Young Link 8 24 10 24 12 23 6 19 5 29 6 23
GanondorfHeadSSBU.png Ganondorf 9 (ground)
6 (air)		 25 (ground)
21 (air)		 8 (ground)
7 (air)		 23 8 (ground)
6 (air)		 26 (ground)
23 (air)		 8 (ground)
6 (air)		 23 5 39 8 23
MewtwoHeadSSBU.png Mewtwo 8 (ground)
9 (air)		 24 11 24 12 23 9 19 7 37 7 23
RoyHeadSSBU.png Roy
ChromHeadSSBU.png Chrom		 10 24 14 24 15 23 8 19 6 37 7 23
MrGame&WatchHeadSSBU.png Mr. Game & Watch 11 24 11 24 11 23 11 19 12 37 10 23
MetaKnightHeadSSBU.png Meta Knight 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 6 37 6 23
PitHeadSSBU.png Pit
DarkPitHeadSSBU.png Dark Pit		 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 39 6 23
ZeroSuitSamusHeadSSBU.png Zero Suit Samus 7 20 9 20 11 20 6 18 4 34 5 23
WarioHeadSSBU.png Wario 10 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 6 39 7 23
SnakeHeadSSBU.png Snake 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
IkeHeadSSBU.png Ike 11 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 6 39 7 23
SquirtleHeadSSBU.png Squirtle 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
IvysaurHeadSSBU.png Ivysaur 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
CharizardHeadSSBU.png Charizard 10 29 14 29 15 21 (ground)
29 (air)		 8 29 (ground)
21 (air)		 6 38 8 23
DiddyKongHeadSSBU.png Diddy Kong 7 20 9 20 11 20 6 18 4 35 5 23
LucasHeadSSBU.png Lucas 7 (ground)
8 (air)		 24 11 24 12 (ground)
13 (air)		 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
SonicHeadSSBU.png Sonic 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
KingDededeHeadSSBU.png King Dedede 10 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 (ground)
23 (air)		 6 39 7 23
OlimarHeadSSBU.png Olimar 8 24 11 25 12 23 7 20 5 37 6 23
LucarioHeadSSBU.png Lucario 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 36 6 23
ROBHeadSSBU.png R.O.B. 7 20 9 20 11 20 6 18 4 35 5 23
ToonLinkHeadSSBU.png Toon Link 7 20 9 20 11 20 6 18 4 35 5 23
WolfHeadSSBU.png Wolf 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
VillagerHeadSSBU.png Villager 11 (ground)
10 (air)		 23 (ground)
24 (air)		 11 (ground)
10 (air)		 24 10 23 10 (ground)
9 (air)		 19 5 37 6 23
MegaManHeadSSBU.png Mega Man 11 24 11 24 11 23 11 19 11 37 11 29
WiiFitTrainerHeadSSBU.png Wii Fit Trainer 10 26 10 24 (ground)
26 (air)		 11 25 (ground)
28 (air)		 9 24 (ground)
26 (air)		 5 41 5 24
RosalinaHeadSSBU.png Rosalina 8 (ground)
10 (air)		 26 (ground)
24 (air)		 11 26 (ground)
24 (air)		 11 25 (ground)
23 (air)		 10 (ground)
11 (air)		 21 (ground)
19 (air)		 10 37 7 23
LittleMacHeadSSBU.png Little Mac 10 24 11 24 10 23 10 (ground)
9 (air)		 19 5 37 6 23
GreninjaHeadSSBU.png Greninja 10 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 6 39 7 23
MiiBrawlerHeadSSBU.png Mii Brawler 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
MiiSwordfighterHeadSSBU.png Mii Swordfighter 10 20 14 20 15 20 8 18 6 45 5 23
MiiGunnerHeadSSBU.png Mii Gunner 8 25 11 25 12 24 7 20 5 38 5 24
PalutenaHeadSSBU.png Palutena 7 27 (ground)
23 (air)		 9 27 (ground)
23 (air)		 11 27 (ground)
23 (air)		 6 21 4 39 5 23
Pac-ManHeadSSBU.png Pac-Man 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
RobinHeadSSBU.png Robin 10 29 14 29 15 29 8 21 6 39 7 23
ShulkHeadSSBU.png Shulk 10 24 13 (ground)
14 (air)		 24 15 (ground)
14 (air)		 23 8 19 6 37 6 27
BowserJrHeadSSBU.png Bowser Jr. 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
DuckHuntHeadSSBU.png Duck Hunt 7 23 11 23 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
RyuHeadSSBU.png Ryu
KenHeadSSBU.png Ken		 8 24 11 24 12 23 8 (ground)
7 (air)		 19 5 37 6 23
CloudHeadSSBU.png Cloud 8 24 11 24 12 (ground)
11 (air)		 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
CorrinHeadSSBU.png Corrin 7 24 10 (ground)
11 (air)		 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 6 23
BayonettaHeadSSBU.png Bayonetta 10 (ground)
8 (air)		 24 10 (ground)
8 (air)		 24 12 23 7 19 5 37 7 23
InklingHeadSSBU.png Inkling 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
RidleyHeadSSBU.png Ridley 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
SimonHeadSSBU.png Simon
RichterHeadSSBU.png Richter		 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
KingKRoolHeadSSBU.png King K. Rool 10 24 13 24 17 23 8 19 7 29 6 23
IsabelleHeadSSBU.png Isabelle 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
IncineroarHeadSSBU.png Incineroar 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
PiranhaPlantHeadSSBU.png Piranha Plant 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
JokerHeadSSBU.png Joker 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
HeroHeadSSBU.png Hero 7 24 9 24 11 23 6 19 4 29 5 23
Banjo&KazooieHeadSSBU.png Banjo & Kazooie 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
TerryHeadSSBU.png Terry 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
BylethHeadSSBU.png Byleth 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
MinMinHeadSSBU.png Min Min 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
Steve's stock icon. Steve 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
Sephiroth's stock icon. Sephiroth 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
PyraHeadSSBU.png Pyra 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
MythraHeadSSBU.png Mythra 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23
KazuyaHeadSSBU.png Kazuya 8 24 11 24 12 23 7 19 5 29 6 23

References

  1. ^ http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/Item.html
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