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Yoshi is a character with very clear advantages and disadvantages. Many of his advantageous match-ups stem from his grab-release or other tricks he can pull off, but his relatively short and laggy grab can be an impediment (though he can pivot grab to remedy this). Yoshi's extremely high learning curve and difficulty in using his chain grabs on some characters means that only dedicated Yoshi players can do very well with him.
Yoshi is a character with very clear advantages and disadvantages. Many of his advantageous match-ups stem from his grab-release or other tricks he can pull off, but his relatively short and laggy grab can be an impediment (though he can pivot grab to remedy this). Yoshi's extremely high learning curve and difficulty in using his chain grabs on some characters means that only dedicated Yoshi players can do very well with him.


==Changes from ''Melee'' to ''Brawl''==
==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
Yoshi has received noticeable buffs, such as a much better grab game due to his new air release option on a large portion of the cast and his new effective pivot grab, his superior mobility especially in the air, a majorly improved [[recovery]] due to him now performing a small jump when using Egg Throw and he was initially considered to be overall greatly buffed in the transition from ''Melee'' to ''Brawl'' due to him being thought as a low tier character, or even among the worst. However, as Yoshi's metagame in Melee developed, he is now considered much better that he was thought to be before, while the changes caused by the transition to '' Brawl'' caused him to be significantly nerfed.  
Yoshi has received noticeable buffs, such as a much better grab game due to his new air release option on a large portion of the cast and his new effective pivot grab, his superior mobility especially in the air, a majorly improved [[recovery]] due to him now performing a small jump when using Egg Throw and he was initially considered to be overall greatly buffed in the transition from ''Melee'' to ''Brawl'' due to him being thought as a low tier character, or even among the worst. However, as Yoshi's metagame in Melee developed, he is now considered much better that he was thought to be before, while the changes caused by the transition to '' Brawl'' caused him to be significantly nerfed.  


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*{{nerf|Yoshi can no longer jump out of his initial shield animation, removing his ability to [[parry]].}}
*{{nerf|Yoshi can no longer jump out of his initial shield animation, removing his ability to [[parry]].}}
*{{nerf|Yoshi can no longer throw items out of a [[roll]], preventing him for [[glide toss]]ing.}}
*{{nerf|Yoshi can no longer throw items out of a [[roll]], preventing him for [[glide toss]]ing.}}
**{{nerf|Altogether, these changes combined with Yoshi's shield drop animation remaining unchanged (which especially hurts him considering the fact that every other character's shield drop animation is much shorter) and with Yoshi still being unable to [[powershield canceling|powershield cancel]] have drastically hindered Yoshi's shield game, going from being unique to the absolute worst in the game by a large margin.}}
**{{nerf|Altogether, these changes combined with Yoshi's shield drop only becoming one frame shorter (which especially hurts him considering the fact that every other character's shield drop animation is 8 frames shorter) and with Yoshi still being unable to [[powershield canceling|powershield cancel]] have drastically hindered Yoshi's shield game, going from being unique to the absolute worst in the game by a large margin.}}
*{{buff|[[Spot dodge]] has a longer duration (frames 2-15 → 2-20).}}
*{{buff|[[Spot dodge]] has a longer duration (frames 2-15 → 2-20).}}
*{{buff|Yoshi now has the ability to [[crawl]], giving him the ability to duck under moves or shrink his hurtbox.}}
*{{buff|Yoshi now has the ability to [[crawl]], giving him the ability to duck under moves or shrink his hurtbox.}}
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