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== Picture of Cloud without Green Background ==
== Picture of Cloud without Green Background ==
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[[:File:Cloud.png]]<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Crowbars|Crowbars]] ([[User talk:Crowbars|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Crowbars|contribs]]) {{{2}}}</small>
:Source? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:Source? [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::It looks like the original image, except at significantly lower res and transparency. If it was official, like the others, it would be at least 600x600. Just my opinion, wait for them to respond. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 17:32, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::It looks like the original image, except at significantly lower res and transparency. If it was official, like the others, it would be at least 600x600. Just my opinion, wait for them to respond. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 17:32, 13 November 2015 (EST)
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Could we replace the bold and bold italics for unlockable characters with colored links in blue and red? (Blue being both versions but colored after Wii U, red being 3DS-only) Idk I just feel like this would work better. So it would be {{SSB4|Mario}}, '''{{col-link|Ganondorf (SSB4)|t=Ganondorf|#FF0000}}''', '''{{col-link|Duck Hunt (SSB4)|t=Duck Hunt|#009ac7}}'''. My biggest concern would be that the 3DS unlockables would just look like redlinks, but [[Ganondork (SSB4)|I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too similar]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Could we replace the bold and bold italics for unlockable characters with colored links in blue and red? (Blue being both versions but colored after Wii U, red being 3DS-only) Idk I just feel like this would work better. So it would be {{SSB4|Mario}}, '''{{col-link|Ganondorf (SSB4)|t=Ganondorf|#FF0000}}''', '''{{col-link|Duck Hunt (SSB4)|t=Duck Hunt|#009ac7}}'''. My biggest concern would be that the 3DS unlockables would just look like redlinks, but [[Ganondork (SSB4)|I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be too similar]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:Seems like a rather interesting idea. I'd be okay with it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:23, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Also, can't this be unlocked now? :/ <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:26, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:...Bit iffy on this one. Why does this change need to happen? It seems fine to me as is. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:28, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Doesn't need it; current version is fine. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:29, 12 January 2016 (EST)
(edit conflict) I don't think it necessarily needs to, but I do think it'd look better, and it actually has a reason for the choice, whereas bold italics have nothing to do with 3DS-exclusive unlockables. Plus, there'd be less text in the note at the bottom. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:30, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:I personally disagree with the "it looks better" claim, but that's just me. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:34, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::It'd be nice if I could actually use preview to look at it, but y'know, page is locked for a reason we still haven't been supplied with. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:35, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::I actually agree that it shouldn't be protected still now that DLC is over. I have taken it down, but I'm prepared to put it back up if need be. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:40, 12 January 2016 (EST)
Some people are still listing fake DLC announcements and the like, so I don't think we should give them more to work with, especially with a rarely edited table. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:41, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:I mean, by that logic shouldn't we protect everything? There's no reason to believe this would be vandalized more than any other page, and it's still autoconfirmed-only. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:42, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::I am willing to give it a chance. If non-officials get put up here, I'll reprotect. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:44, 12 January 2016 (EST)
[[:File:Red and Blue Unlockables.png|This]] is how the table would look with the changes proposed. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:52, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:Looks horrendous to me. I still don't understand how this is supposed to be an improvement, or even what the supposed issue with the current layout is. (also why are you using Comic Sans) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:54, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Looks bad to me too. Miles, you really can't dis anyone for comic sans, though. Look at your sig. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:55, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Also, for clarity, that's his CSS (I think) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:56, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::(edit conflict x2) why are you so over-protective over this template that anything that goes against you is "horrendous"? It's one thing to dislike it, but horrendous is ''way'' too strong a word. As you have said, this doesn't really change anything - if it's horrendous, it's your beloved template's fault.
::There's not a supposed issue, I just thought using colors is a little more consistent with how we usually put differences between 3DS and Wii U, and also have better reasoning.
::and I use comic sans cuz I like it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:57, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::now responding to SK.
:::I don't see how it could make it look bad? It's not that huge of a change.
:::And yeah, it's my CSS. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:57, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::I apologize if my wording came across as overly harsh. Also, where do we use colored text to indicate SSB4 version differences? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:00, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::::[[List of Super Smash Bros. series characters|Here]] for the exact same thing. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  18:02, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I don't like the colored text, but we could do the colored background, like that table. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:04, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::::::I'd like to see an example of that. (Idk how to do colored backgrounds on tables >.>) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  18:05, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::::::::The difference is that the cells on that table are very small, compared to the much larger ones here. I think it would be a lot more distracting visually to add color-based distinctions here. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:08, 12 January 2016 (EST)
(reset indent) can we see instead of think? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  18:10, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:[http://i.imgur.com/fKXdRkI.png here]. Personally, I like it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:14, 12 January 2016 (EST)
::Completely ruins the table's symmetry and looks very very messy. I don't think I could be more opposed to this. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:18, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::Right because a table with different characters on either side of it had symmetry... <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:21, 12 January 2016 (EST)
:::(edit conflict as usual) Yeahhh it does kind of throw off the symmetry... <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  18:22, 12 January 2016 (EST)
==Rob using the wrong default on this table==
Currently, Rob uses his Famicom colors instead of his NES colors, despite the former not being the default in english-speaking countries. In my opinion, that should be changed. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 01:29, October 7, 2020 (EDT)