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Any thoughts on using this template? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:00, 22 December 2014 (EST) | Any thoughts on using this template? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:00, 22 December 2014 (EST) | ||
:I'm not so sure. There's a small amount of pages that don't have their Japanese name, and when/if we do come across a page without its Japanese name, we're probably just going to add the Japanese name anyways, so I would see little use of this template. Then again, most of us don't know Japanese, but then there's Google Translate… yeah, I'm '''neutral, but leaning towards oppose''' with use of this template. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 20:12, 22 December 2014 (EST) | :I'm not so sure. There's a small amount of pages that don't have their Japanese name, and when/if we do come across a page without its Japanese name, we're probably just going to add the Japanese name anyways, so I would see little use of this template. Then again, most of us don't know Japanese, but then there's Google Translate… yeah, I'm '''neutral, but leaning towards oppose''' with use of this template. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 20:12, 22 December 2014 (EST) | ||
::Having recently gone through many lists of pages in standardizing {{t|ja}}, I can tell you there are quite a few in need of it. Stages and items in particular. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:16, 22 December 2014 (EST) | |||
:::Yeah, but what I'm saying is that when/if we find those pages, we're just going to add the Japanese name anyways, so use of this template would be very, very minimal, if we use it at all. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 20:19, 22 December 2014 (EST) | |||
::::Isn't the point of any template like this to mark work to be done? I don't assume every user can dig up reliable official sources for all the missing names. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:25, 22 December 2014 (EST) | |||
Bump. Would like to start using this if there's no opposition. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:09, 1 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:If you wanna say something, say it now. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 03:48, 5 January 2015 (EST) | |||
== More general applicability == | |||
While browsing through pages with the incomplete tag, I stumbled upon Lucario's SSB4 page which is missing the Japanese versions of its victory quotes. I think it would be useful to widen the scope of this template by extending it to "Japanese version missing" instead of just "Japanese name missing". -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 09:23, 16 June 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Expand template to other languages == | |||
{{proposal|passed|2=No reason not to do this <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 09:40, February 6, 2021 (EST)}} | |||
Jpneeded was introduced before we've begun using {{t|langtable}} and stopped solely covering Japanese on pages. The problem is that many langtable instances are incomplete and need a template to tag the page and specify the missing language information. Jpneeded can't be used in this situation, as it's exclusive to Japanese and lacks a "reason" field; the alternative used was {{t|incomplete}}, which lumps the pages in the more general [[:Category:Articles with incomplete sections]], making it more difficult to isolate them. | |||
I propose the template be changed to a more general "langneeded" template with an optional field for specifying what language information is needed. This would solve the earlier problem and the template would be much more usable than it is now. {{t|japanese name}} could also be similarly changed. | |||
I've recently begun mass editing the special move pages, some of which have this problem. I'm proposing this now so I won't need to edit them again later. [[File:NokiiSig.png|link=User_talk:Nokii]] '''[[User:Nokii|<span style="color:#89f">Nokii</span>]]''' — 17:05, December 5, 2020 (EST) | |||
My own drafts for the new templates can be found [[User:Nokii/Sandbox|in this page]]. [[File:NokiiSig.png|link=User_talk:Nokii]] '''[[User:Nokii|<span style="color:#89f">Nokii</span>]]''' — 19:52, December 6, 2020 (EST) | |||
:'''Support'''. I know I tagged several Spirit Board event langtables as "incomplete" because there wasn't a better alternative (Didn't help I didn't know Jpneeded existed). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 17:18, December 5, 2020 (EST) | |||