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== Zero-to-death casual use definition ==
== Zero-to-death casual use definition ==


I was discussing the definition with a few members on the subreddit and discord and we determined the most common use of the term is the casual use that doesn't necessarily refer to an escapable combo, but instead a series of hits that takes the opponent from 0% to being KOed without getting hit themselves.  A user disagreed, and when I edited the wiki they edited it back.  I'm not looking to get into an edit war, what are y'all thoughts?  Is the casual definition worth having on the page?
I was discussing the definition with a few members on the subreddit and discord and we determined the most common use of the term is the casual use that doesn't necessarily refer to an inescapable combo, but instead a series of hits that takes the opponent from 0% to being KOed without getting hit themselves.  A user disagreed, and when I edited the wiki they edited it back.  I'm not looking to get into an edit war, what are y'all thoughts?  Is the casual definition worth having on the page?
[[User:Snitchface|Snitchface]] ([[User talk:Snitchface|talk]]) 15:00, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
:I would say yes, but probably not folded into that paragraph as you were trying to do before. Probably might be better to go for the KIS (Keep It Simple) approach - use something along the lines of, "In more casual settings, a zero-to-death combo is sometimes referred to as any instance where a player is taken from 0% to a KO without them landing a retaliatory hit on their opponent, even if they manage to escape hitstun." And even though those are my own words, I still think it's a bit messy. I would [[SW:CONSENSUS|definitely wait to hear what other people say]] before you go ahead and add anything back. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:05, June 12, 2020 (EDT)
::Bumping this, this issue is still unresolved. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 00:43, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::My bad, didn't realize bumping was okay and thought 4 days with no responses was indicative that no one was going to weigh in.  I'll check back occasionally but I'll leave it to the experienced editors to sort it out. [[User:Snitchface|Snitchface]] ([[User talk:Snitchface|talk]]) 09:49, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
:<s>Time to use my new sysop powers to discuss this.</s> I agree with what Vulpine said, in that we can mention that the term is used in that context in casual play. However I don't agree with prioritize the usage of the term in casual play, we still should keep it mainly as the technical definition. For example we don't use "[[spike]]" to mean a downwards attack in all games, and instead as the technical definition (a downwards attack that cannot be meteor canceled), whereas casuals use spike and [[meteor smash]] interchangeably. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]][[Special:Contributions/OmegaToad64|<font color="red">64</font>]]''' 00:55, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
::I'm with you on casual vs technical, but despite writing it up as the "casual" definition I actually think at this point it's just the actual definition.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voK1QG49RAs This and other "0 to death" compilations show the commentators referring to them as 0-to-deaths even though there are clearly neutral resets.  Commentators can be wrong; but if the commentators call it that, reddit calls it that, and casual players call it that, who is still using the technical definition? [[User:Snitchface|Snitchface]] ([[User talk:Snitchface|talk]]) 10:05, June 17, 2020 (EDT)
:::You know, for that reason, I'm thinking perhaps we should add a new section on articles that are about technical terms, naming the section along the lines of "In casual play" or something like that, and go on to describe the usage there. That's probably a proposal for another day, but anyone like the sound of this idea? [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 05:58, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
::::I ain't fully opposed to it but yes, I say it would need a proper discussion first. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]][[Special:Contributions/OmegaToad64|<font color="red">64</font>]]''' 06:02, June 18, 2020 (EDT)
Bump, anyone else want to weigh in on this? [[User:Snitchface|Snitchface]] ([[User talk:Snitchface|talk]]) 22:05, June 24, 2020 (EDT)
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