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I watched one of the livestreams from when the game was released early, and I caught Jigglypuff using Rest, seemingly with larger range. I wanted to add this to the template showing the moves, but how do I do it? I apologize if this sounds really dumb. I'm new here. [[User:Bulbaboy|Bulbaboy]] ([[User talk:Bulbaboy|talk]]) 00:25, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
I watched one of the livestreams from when the game was released early, and I caught Jigglypuff using Rest, seemingly with larger range. I wanted to add this to the template showing the moves, but how do I do it? I apologize if this sounds really dumb. I'm new here. [[User:Bulbaboy|Bulbaboy]] ([[User talk:Bulbaboy|talk]]) 00:25, 13 September 2014 (EDT)
== Vertical knockback and Rest ==
As of Toomai's reversion, the article states that the vertical knockback weakens Rest's KO potential. The problem with that is that while fall speed does improve vertical survivability, vertical knockback is typically more reliable, as it doesn't get significantly weakened if you are further from the edge. Additionally, using Rest offstage to get closer to the side blast zone will result in an SD if the opponent is on their last stock, but using it from high up in SSB4 for the same effect will not if you are still on stage. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 06:54, 13 July 2018 (EDT)
:Part of the problem there is that effectiveness is ultimately determined by whether it KOs or not, and while vertical knockback may seem reliable, it's largely influenced by how much damage the target has taken over position, something that any other angle doesn't have to worry about too much, but that also inserts a load of variables. Ultimately, both forms have their pros and cons. Vertical knockback generates more consistent KOs, but horizontal has the benefit of takedowns when closer to the blast lines, which adds potential for earlier KOs. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 07:04, 13 July 2018 (EDT)