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I was considering putting trivia on Pichu, Young Link, and Roy's pages that they're the only characters without Final Smashes (since I thought three was a small enough number), but could I count PM in the trivia, thus making it only Pichu and Young Link without Final Smashes, which is more notable. Would this be appropriate or not, since PM is basically only mentioned on the pages completely relevant to it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 12:36, 8 November 2014 (EST) | I was considering putting trivia on Pichu, Young Link, and Roy's pages that they're the only characters without Final Smashes (since I thought three was a small enough number), but could I count PM in the trivia, thus making it only Pichu and Young Link without Final Smashes, which is more notable. Would this be appropriate or not, since PM is basically only mentioned on the pages completely relevant to it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 12:36, 8 November 2014 (EST) | ||
:Excluding Roy because he has a Final Smash in PM should not be done, as PM is not mainspace. However, I'm not sure that trivia is even notable, as the reason they don't have Final Smashes is because they never appeared in games past Melee. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:40, 8 November 2014 (EST) | :Excluding Roy because he has a Final Smash in PM should not be done, as PM is not mainspace. However, I'm not sure that trivia is even notable, as the reason they don't have Final Smashes is because they never appeared in games past Melee. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:40, 8 November 2014 (EST) | ||
::Even if you did include PM in there, then you could eliminate Squirtle and Ivysaur, because neither of them have Final Smashes in PM. That said, they are a part of [[Triple Finish]], so idk. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 12:48, 8 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:::Maybe it would be more notable to state that Squirtle and Ivysaur are the only characters introduced in ''Brawl'' to not have their own Final Smashes, although that would have to be phrased well to avoid Triple Finish. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 12:51, 8 November 2014 (EST) | |||
This kind of trivia veers into the self-evident and isn't really necessary to point out. I'm sure anybody who knows which games have Final Smashes can determine this for themselves quite easily. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:57, 8 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== Final Smash glitch == | |||
So I found [http://youtu.be/kmUrXhGHVN4 this]. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 16:23, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Drop the "types" == | |||
I'm going to propose that the Final Smash "types" we currently have in use be removed. There's too many Final Smashes that don't fit neatly into these very limiting categories, and there's not really an official basis or anything for them either. They're just inconsistently applied fan terms that don't do a whole lot for us. [[#Just out of curiosity...|This has been suggested before]] but I figured it was worth having a direct discussion of the topic. Thoughts? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:09, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:I cannot '''support''' the removal of these pointless terms enough. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 14:20, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
::'''Strong strong STRONG support'''. Yes I realize that many strongs is pointless but I just want to make clear how much I support it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 16:56, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::Perhaps we should do this for all attacks? '''Support''' by the way. [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 17:44, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
Yeah I'm getting rid of them this instant (as I planned to do a while ago but simply forgot). SSB4 really ruined the whole idea. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Boss 17:50, 25 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Though I'm late, we're better off without types. There were some Final Smashes that could fit in multiple categories, and there's so far [[PK Starstorm|one instance]] of a final smash changing type. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:05, 26 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Also late, but this means you're going to have to get rid of them on the individual pages as well. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 23:21, 26 June 2015 (EDT) | |||
== No types == | |||
Whatever happened to the Final Smash types?[[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 21:31, 1 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Read the previous section. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:33, 1 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
== A possible alternative for categories == | |||
Feel free to totally reject the idea, but what if there was a "yes/no" labeling of final smashes? I saw a video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxotDwyqFc, and I was wondering, what if we defined final smashes by those that can do fixed damage and KO at certain percentages (akin to those seen in the video) vs ones that don't and are more erratic in nature and can perform differently based on additional player input (Peach) or random output (WFT)? | |||
[[User:Auranin|Quajutsu]] ([[User talk:Auranin|talk]]) 20:29, 26 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
:It sounds conceptually like a good idea but I'm not sure how well it would work overall... <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small> 20:36, 26 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Equipment IS disabled when using your Final Smash. == | |||
It's not false. Like I said, it's easier to notice with Auto Heal. I insist you try it. It's easy to notice with characters like Bayonetta and Mega Lucario. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 11:27, 19 February 2016 (EST) | |||
== Make the list into a table == | |||
With the amount of Final Smashes that have been replaced in Ultimate, as well as the amount of characters present, I was thinking the list of Final Smashes would look cleaner as a table. Each character would be a row, and each game a column. If a character isn't in a given game, they can simply have that game's column blank. I'm willing to try making the table myself, but I don't want to make a relatively subjective major change like this without checking if there is opposition. [[User:Dr. HyperCake|Dr. HyperCake]] ([[User talk:Dr. HyperCake|talk]]) 21:30, 19 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
== Links == | |||
It says Diddy Kong's final smash changed, where's the proof, like a link or something? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pratikmii03|contribs]]) {{{2}}}</small> | |||
:[https://youtu.be/gSxffgSg5VU?t=1009 Right here]. What about Meta Knight's? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:22, 2 November 2018 (EDT) | |||
::For other Final Smashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l5cEQJ8qvs See description for the times & characters. Note that a few characters like Robin are missing. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 07:57, 4 November 2018 (EST) | |||
== Final Smash names == | |||
Where is the proof of the new Final Smash names? [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 17:40, 28 November 2018 (EST)Pratikmii03[[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 17:40, 28 November 2018 (EST) | |||
== Inspiration? == | |||
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (which was released a year before Brawl) had Mojo Meltdowns for each character. Those special moves were not only impossible to block or dodge, but also impossible to survive. Do you think Brawl took inspiration from this? Do you think Final Smashes should also take one life from all opponents (who are neither knocked out nor invincible) when used? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:47.36.25.163|47.36.25.163]] ([[User talk:47.36.25.163|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/47.36.25.163|contribs]]) 21:46, August 15, 2021 (EDT)</small> | |||
:Final Smashes were considered all the way back to the original game on the Nintendo 64 in 1999. So no and no. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:51, August 15, 2021 (EDT) | |||