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:I'm going with no. I mean, it's the original Final Destination. The Ω forms were based off of Final Destination. I doubt there will be any major differences. [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 22:34, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | :I'm going with no. I mean, it's the original Final Destination. The Ω forms were based off of Final Destination. I doubt there will be any major differences. [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 22:34, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::Actually, Ω Forms all have items disabled. Always. That is the major difference in this, though. Nothing else. [[Special:Contributions/94.14.6.180|94.14.6.180]] 06:56, 27 September 2014 (EDT) | ::Actually, Ω Forms all have items disabled. Always. That is the major difference in this, though. Nothing else. [[Special:Contributions/94.14.6.180|94.14.6.180]] 06:56, 27 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::Ω Forms don't disable items, that's only in the demo. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User: | :::Ω Forms don't disable items, that's only in the demo. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.147.78.177|24.147.78.177]] ([[User talk:24.147.78.177|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.147.78.177|contribs]]) 15:59, 4 October 4 2014 (EDT</small> | ||
::::Remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 16:02, 4 October 2014 (EDT) | ::::Remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 16:02, 4 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::::Just checked, Omega Final Destination seems to be exactly the same stage as the normal form. --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 16:13, 4 October 2014 (EDT) | :::::Just checked, Omega Final Destination seems to be exactly the same stage as the normal form. --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 16:13, 4 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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::::None of the opposition have ever addressed why it's hard to read. The only one who ever talked was nyargle, and I just gave him that point because I didn't really care. If it's not obvious enough, '''someone who actually thinks this should reply'''. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 03:22, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | ::::None of the opposition have ever addressed why it's hard to read. The only one who ever talked was nyargle, and I just gave him that point because I didn't really care. If it's not obvious enough, '''someone who actually thinks this should reply'''. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 03:22, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::::Imo the sentences are fine. I'd like to direct attention back to the original topic though, the split. Supporters claim that a page for omegas would look full enough and that not having a page for such a mode is just odd. The opposing side claims that omegas are collectively too similar to FD to warrant a page. So what now? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 03:30, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | :::::Imo the sentences are fine. I'd like to direct attention back to the original topic though, the split. Supporters claim that a page for omegas would look full enough and that not having a page for such a mode is just odd. The opposing side claims that omegas are collectively too similar to FD to warrant a page. So what now? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 03:30, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::::Honestly, the best course of action would be to just split it. | |||
::::::The entire debate has been about "I think this looks better" the whole time. There's no actual objective reason to split the page. That said, if it bothers people enough, it just gets split. Done and done. It's not exactly incredibly annoying to have to click on another page for information. | |||
::::::That said, you just set up another precedence: a page creation can be completely justified if it doesn't bother me, but satisfies other people. That's why I've been mentioning the special moves so much. It's not particularly annoying to have to go to another page to see information about Ike's Counter or Luigi's Fireball, but I think it looks a whole lot nicer if they're all split up. The argument about what to do about that was settled a while back, but people can always rustle things again. You're presenting a new interpretation of what justifies a split; it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to apply that interpretation to this page only just because parts of the community talked it over way back then. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 03:50, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
:::::::There actually was a [[Forum:What to do with pages about cloned and similar special moves|discussion]] on that not to long ago, but aside from splitting a few specific articles (Reflector and Blaster...and I think one more that I am forgetting about) not much came out of it. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 04:00, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
::::::::And you're using a different approach to splitting the FD/Omega sections. Is there any reason as to why this reasoning can't be applied to moves? <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 04:07, 28 May 2016 (EDT)<br> | |||
<small>(reset indent)</small> Well no I guess not. I am not entirely opposed to having different versions of special moves get their own pages (it would remove complications) but I think we'd have a hard time convincing the rest of the userbase. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 04:12, 28 May 2016 (EDT) | |||
Right, I will be carrying out this split tonight unless anyone has anything else to add here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 19:25, 1 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
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:::Woolly World has a much higher blast line [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 22:32, 23 May 2016 (EDT) | :::Woolly World has a much higher blast line [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbyHeadYellowSSB.png|50x20px]] 22:32, 23 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::These are omega stages. Before you assume I made the wrong assumption, Mac's u-smash KO's at the standard 50% here against Mario. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 22:39, 23 May 2016 (EDT) | ::::These are omega stages. Before you assume I made the wrong assumption, Mac's u-smash KO's at the standard 50% here against Mario. <span style="font-family:Orbitron">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 22:39, 23 May 2016 (EDT) | ||
== Omega form section == | |||
Should this page have its own section for omega forms like all the other stages? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me 22:55, 1 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
:Probably, yeah. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 23:01, 1 June 2016 (EDT) | |||