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These things all change for non-echoes and clones of the past. Isabelle for example has two special moves that are completely different in operation and serve completely different purposes, and Dr Mario has drastically altered physical attributes (some stuff like jump height were even tweaked by hand this time). Ken absolutely falls under a full clone because the vast majority of his tools are outright identical or extremely similar to Ryu's even in damage and knockback and the changes he has are mostly for flavor (matching SF2 Turbo) and don't really affect how he plays. Dr Mario's changes affect how he plays in a much bigger way. His position in tier lists is indicative of this. --[[Special:Contributions/5.81.71.60|5.81.71.60]] 18:14, April 3, 2019 (EDT) | These things all change for non-echoes and clones of the past. Isabelle for example has two special moves that are completely different in operation and serve completely different purposes, and Dr Mario has drastically altered physical attributes (some stuff like jump height were even tweaked by hand this time). Ken absolutely falls under a full clone because the vast majority of his tools are outright identical or extremely similar to Ryu's even in damage and knockback and the changes he has are mostly for flavor (matching SF2 Turbo) and don't really affect how he plays. Dr Mario's changes affect how he plays in a much bigger way. His position in tier lists is indicative of this. --[[Special:Contributions/5.81.71.60|5.81.71.60]] 18:14, April 3, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:Just to say, the above had been banned to be a MemoryMan sock. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 20:46, April 3, 2019 (EDT) | :Just to say, the above had been banned to be a MemoryMan sock. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 20:46, April 3, 2019 (EDT) | ||
::I'm worried about him now. Please don’t take this as an attack or anything, but as I stated in my previous message, I'm concerned about someone else’s mental state, et cetera, et cetera, and I certainly don’t want to cast aspersions anybody’s way. The point is, I feel these discussions are becoming a bad case of déjà vu, and as much as I want to stop this, the truth is… I can’t (at least, not at this moment). | |||
Post-Scriptum: Though this might sound presumptuous, I also feel that the debate on what makes a clone has gone on a bit too long, and I wish not to comment on the matter. Thanks for reading. [[Special:Contributions/24.6.47.241|24.6.47.241]] 19:12, April 4, 2019 (EDT) | |||
==Ganondorf’s position== | ==Ganondorf’s position== | ||
Ganondorf’s moves are enough to qualify him as a psudeo-clone. All of his ground attacks are different, and even if he shares the same aerials, no other clone archetype has such polarizing differences on moves with the same animations. He should definitely be moved to the psudeo-clone category, though I’m curious about your thoughts on this. If arguements stating that he’s a psudeo-clone are convincing enough, he will be moved, and if arguements stating that he’s a semi-clone still are convincing enough, he will stay.[[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 02:21, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | Ganondorf’s moves are enough to qualify him as a psudeo-clone. All of his ground attacks are different, and even if he shares the same aerials, no other clone archetype has such polarizing differences on moves with the same animations. He should definitely be moved to the psudeo-clone category, though I’m curious about your thoughts on this. If arguements stating that he’s a psudeo-clone are convincing enough, he will be moved, and if arguements stating that he’s a semi-clone still are convincing enough, he will stay.[[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 02:21, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||