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This chart is the farthest thing possible from 'official', and labelling it as such is extremely misleading. | This chart is the farthest thing possible from 'official', and labelling it as such is extremely misleading. | ||
To be honest this shouldn't even exist yet. Maybe another 6 months and things will look accurate. Uploading a chart that is not complete while full of disagreements between boards on ratios is a very bad thing to do. | To be honest this shouldn't even exist yet. Maybe another 6 months and things will look accurate. Uploading a chart that is not complete while full of disagreements between boards on ratios is a very bad thing to do. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:121.45.126.206|121.45.126.206]] ([[User talk:121.45.126.206|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/121.45.126.206|contribs]]) 14:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)</small> | ||
:Why should this chart not exist yet? Is it a bad thing that it does? Besides, the chart is only meant to represent what the character boards believe the match-up ratio to be. They are not set in stone. However I do agree that the official part should be removed. [[User:Y462|Y462]] <small>([[User talk:Y462|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Y462|C]] • [[Special:Editcount/Y462|E]] )</small> 23:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | :Why should this chart not exist yet? Is it a bad thing that it does? Besides, the chart is only meant to represent what the character boards believe the match-up ratio to be. They are not set in stone. However I do agree that the official part should be removed. [[User:Y462|Y462]] <small>([[User talk:Y462|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Y462|C]] • [[Special:Editcount/Y462|E]] )</small> 23:49, 20 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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==A couple of things i noticed that i dont entirely understand== | ==A couple of things i noticed that i dont entirely understand== | ||
*ok why is it that on some characters its undocumented yet when you look at others its got the match up for them when its the exact same match up like if you look at sonics row you see his chances of beating sheik are 40:60 yet if you look at sheiks you would think it would say 60:40 but its undocumented another example is dk and pkmn trainer | *ok why is it that on some characters its undocumented yet when you look at others its got the match up for them when its the exact same match up like if you look at sonics row you see his chances of beating sheik are 40:60 yet if you look at sheiks you would think it would say 60:40 but its undocumented another example is dk and pkmn trainer | ||
*2 how come for some of the match ups its different even though they are the same thing, such as when you look at zss on meta knight its 60:40 but when you look at meta knight on zss's row its 45:55 | *2 how come for some of the match ups its different even though they are the same thing, such as when you look at zss on meta knight its 60:40 but when you look at meta knight on zss's row its 45:55 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.89.233.34|68.89.233.34]] ([[User talk:68.89.233.34|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.89.233.34|contribs]]) 20:49, June 9, 2010 (UTC)</small> | ||
:Each row is the opinion of that character's subforum on SmashBoards. The ZSS mains think their matchup with MK is 45:55, while the MK mains think it's 60:40. The Sonic mains think their matchup with Sheik is 40:60, while the Sheik mains haven't discussed it yet or aren't in agreement over a rating. Yeah, it's not intuitive, but until the metagame is completely stable there's no real alternative. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 20:59, June 9, 2010 (UTC) | :Each row is the opinion of that character's subforum on SmashBoards. The ZSS mains think their matchup with MK is 45:55, while the MK mains think it's 60:40. The Sonic mains think their matchup with Sheik is 40:60, while the Sheik mains haven't discussed it yet or aren't in agreement over a rating. Yeah, it's not intuitive, but until the metagame is completely stable there's no real alternative. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 20:59, June 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Really? == | == Really? == | ||
It specifically says tiers don't affect it, but it's obviously the tier list. It counteracts itself when saying that it does not mean that that will always happen, but it is based on the tier list, which is said to always be accurate, which it's not. | It specifically says tiers don't affect it, but it's obviously the tier list. It counteracts itself when saying that it does not mean that that will always happen, but it is based on the tier list, which is said to always be accurate, which it's not. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.247.196.248|70.247.196.248]] ([[User talk:70.247.196.248|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.247.196.248|contribs]]) 11: 32, 12 July 2011 (EDT)</small> | ||
:Stop whining about tiers please,we know they aren't all that accurate. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 11:35, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | :Stop whining about tiers please,we know they aren't all that accurate. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 11:35, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Matchups are based on what the consensus is for each individual matchup, a character's position on the tier list is irrelevant to how well they play against a specific character. Also sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:45, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | :Matchups are based on what the consensus is for each individual matchup, a character's position on the tier list is irrelevant to how well they play against a specific character. Also sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:45, 12 July 2011 (EDT) | ||