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 ==Greninja's Alts may have origins==
 Greninja's pink costume resembles Lickitung.
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 :::::I was always looking back at artwork for Reinhardt to find any resemblances. There is nothing else in common with the Yellow Alt. apart from the yellow shirt, so that would make it a stretch. Before comparing the Purple Alt. to Shaft, I compared it to Reinhardt, but found no real relations except the green color. Also I'd say that Reinhardt's vest is more of an [https://polkadotbride2017-sngywbwcq2xgokujesdfdv3cusxse3.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Indigo1.jpg Indigo] than [https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*bNfxs62uJzISTfuPlOzOWQ.png Purple], if you get what I'm saying. Also, I want to know if you agree with my previous statements on how many of Richter's Alts. could be references to multiple characters, like Red for Juste and Chris, Green for Curse and Maria, Yellow for Julius and John, Black for monochrome ending and possibly Alucard. I want to know if and why YOU SPECIFICALLY think that they are or are not references, especially the Julius argument. You never really specifically explained and gave sufficient evidence towards your belief as to why it is more a reference to John than Julius. You've said before, "As for the red undershirt referencing Julius, that's a big stretch since it's just singling out one item out of his whole ensemble." but I mentioned other colors and provided evidence for them. You didn't answer back to that argument. Plus, the article states that it's based on the [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/e/e6/John_Morris.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130502125343 artwork for John.] Again, c'mon, over [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486191519318147075/519988525916094476/Julius_Official.jpg Julius']? [[Special:Contributions/104.136.71.9|104.136.71.9]] 19:36, 8 February 2019 (EST) OliviérBaguette
 ::::::Since I do not have an active account, and my account is not verified enough to make addendums to the main article, I was wondering if someone credible can read this and make judgement as to whether or not the main article should be edited to better fit the two sides of this argument. In this section, I have stated my case and presented my evidence, none of which has been disproven, just counterclaimed. Four of Richter's colors on the main article are fine but not complete. Me and the person in this section arguing have said that the Red, Yellow, Green, and Black alt. colors are, each, one of two possible references. If I were to edit the article, I would just combine the two claims on each of the four colors, since neither of them can be particularly disproven. If I were to edit the main article, I would have:  "Red: Resembles [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/f/f7/Juste_Belmont2.png/revision/latest?cb=20190121173446 Juste Belmont] as he appears in [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Harmony_of_Dissonance Castlevania: Harmony of Dissonance], and can also be a reference to [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/c/c8/Christopher_Belmont_%28ReBirth%29_-_01.png/revision/latest?cb=20190126133152 Christopher Belmont], as he appears in the WiiWare remake of Castlevania: The Adventure, titled, [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Adventure_ReBirth Castlevania: The Adventure ReBirth]."    "Green: Resembles Richter when affected by [http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv5/manual/DraculaXX_26-27.jpg the Curse Effect]. With the gold outlines on Richter's tunic, coupled with the green and light brown, together, can also resemble the color scheme of [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/c/cf/Maria_Renard-2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150627165347 Maria Renard] as she appears in [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Symphony_of_the_Night Castlevania: Symphony of The Night]."   "Yellow: Resembles [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/4/4a/Dos-julius.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080906170256 Julius Belmont] as he appears in [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Aria_of_Sorrow Aria of Sorrow], [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Dawn_of_Sorrow Dawn of Sorrow], and [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Harmony_of_Despair Harmony of Despair]. Richter's red headband can be a vague reference to the [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/e/e6/John_Morris.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130502125343 instruction book artwork of John Morris] for [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Bloodlines Castlevania: Bloodlines]."   "Black: Resembles [https://www.fightersgeneration.com/np9/characters/alucard-sotn-concept1.jpg Alucard] as he appears in [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Symphony_of_the_Night Symphony of The Night]. The color scheme of Richter's alt. can also be a vague reference to how he appeared in the [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/castlevania/images/2/25/SNES-DraculaX-Ending10.png/revision/latest?cb=20140710021514 end credits] to [https://castlevania.fandom.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Dracula_X Castlevania: Dracula X]."  Thank you so much for giving me the chance to share my opinions, and I hope that the evidence presented from both sides gets put together in a wonderful Symphony. ;)     [[Special:Contributions/104.136.71.9|104.136.71.9]] 10:25, 2 March 2019 (EST) OliviérBaguette
-Agreed with all of these (especially the light blue being a reference to SotN artwork, it's basically 1:1) except for the purple one. It seems like as much of a stretch as saying it's based on the 32X game. If it was a reference to Shaft they would've made it a brighter purple color and given him green highlights, like the red highlights on his white costume or the yellow ones on his black one. And speaking of the black alt, I don't think it's a reference to the DXC ending. If that were the case they would've given him a white bandana, not a black one. Finally, I should point out that the "earlier build of Smash Ultimate" you linked to isn't that, but it's from a fan-made YouTube video. --[[User:Master Foot|Master Foot]] ([[User talk:Master Foot|talk]]) 03:58, March 12, 2019 (EDT)
+<s>Agreed with all of these (especially the light blue being a reference to SotN artwork, it's basically 1:1) except for the purple one. It seems like as much of a stretch as saying it's based on the 32X game. If it was a reference to Shaft they would've made it a brighter purple color and given him green highlights, like the red highlights on his white costume or the yellow ones on his black one. And speaking of the black alt, I don't think it's a reference to the DXC ending. If that were the case they would've given him a white bandana, not a black one.</s> Finally, I should point out that the "earlier build of Smash Ultimate" you linked to isn't that, but it's from a fan-made YouTube video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cI3vFjcvBA). --[[User:Master Foot|Master Foot]] ([[User talk:Master Foot|talk]]) 03:58, March 12, 2019 (EDT)
+:On second thought, I'll just agree with the suggested changes that OliviérBaguette posted above. --[[User:Master Foot|Master Foot]] ([[User talk:Master Foot|talk]]) 09:25, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
 == Yellow Luigi alt Origin? ==
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 == Correct images issue ==
-We have the corrected image for Kirby, Marth, Palutena, ROB, Simon, Villager and Zelda's costumes now. Why are we still using the screencaps from before the game's release?
+We have the corrected image for Kirby, Marth, Palutena, ROB, Simon, Villager and Zelda's costumes now. Why are we still using the screencaps from before the game's release? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Darkkrpg|Darkkrpg]] ([[User talk:Darkkrpg|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Darkkrpg|contribs]])  17:29, March 12, 2019 (EDT)</small>
+Umm... what are you ''talking'' about? All those characters you mentioned had been updated with the raw internal files from the game as early as December 9. Just like everyone else. [[User:Arend|Arend]] ([[User talk:Arend|talk]]) 10:05, March 13, 2019 (EDT)
+== R.O.B.’s “Purple” costume ==
+I believe his purple costume should be named pink, as most of the skin is pink and the stock icon is pink as well.
+[[User:Dab Squad Leader|Dab Squad Leader]] ([[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|talk]]) 14:26, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
+:I don't see any pink in that alt. It's more of a light purple. [[User:RandomUltimate|RandomUltimate]] ([[User talk:RandomUltimate|talk]]) 15:01, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
+::I see it as a light magenta, which, [[wikipedia:Magenta|according to Wikipedia]], contains the color in ROB's alt. If it was a light purple, it would be more lavender. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Irish Rurouni'''</span>]] 15:05, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
+So should it be changed? Or will it remain the same? [[User:Dab Squad Leader|Dab Squad Leader]] ([[User talk:Dab Squad Leader|talk]]) 15:19, March 14, 2019 (EDT)
+:I support changing it to pink. Aside from the purple highlights, it's very clearly a bubblegum pink. RandomUltimate's monitor settings are probably making it look purple.
+== Simon's Purple Costume ==
+Even though there are a lot of comments saying that it's based on Cornell, it's a huge stretch. Even a post on the Castlevania Dungeon forums commented on it being a stretch. What I can say is that I have a more definitive source for the costume: the "Here's Fake Simon" [https://www.spriters-resource.com/playstation/cvchron/sheet/9020/ graffiti] found in Castlevania Chronicles. This isn't even a dummied-out graphic, it can normally be found during playthroughs starting with your 8th as if can be seen in reflective shards of the mirrors found in stage 6. It is actually a clever masking technique as the mirrors are actually revealing parts of a different background layer, and can be seen as early as the first playtrough by disabling layers in an emulator. --[[User:Tailikku|Tailikku]] ([[User talk:Tailikku|talk]]) 11:35, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
+:I doubt that, considering that the only similarity that sprite has to the alt is the gray hair, only the sprite's hair is a lot darker and there is no purple on the sprite. Regardless, I'm going to leave it anyway because I don't think it's Cornell either (even if the color scheme is a lot closer). --[[User:Master Foot|Master Foot]] ([[User talk:Master Foot|talk]]) 14:09, March 15, 2019 (EDT)