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::He has few results but at the tournaments he's gone to he's beaten high level players like Plup and Rideae, gone game 5 with MkLeo and Muteace, and his only questionable loss is Armada. I think that's enough to show that he has the skill level of a top professional. [[User:Jaydyn|Jaydyn]] ([[User talk:Jaydyn|talk]]) 00:51, August 12, 2019 (EDT) | ::He has few results but at the tournaments he's gone to he's beaten high level players like Plup and Rideae, gone game 5 with MkLeo and Muteace, and his only questionable loss is Armada. I think that's enough to show that he has the skill level of a top professional. [[User:Jaydyn|Jaydyn]] ([[User talk:Jaydyn|talk]]) 00:51, August 12, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:::Hey, I'm new to this whole talk page thing so apologies in advance if I'm formatting something incorrectly. I'd normally be hesitant to give top professional status to someone with a lack of tournament results, but I think ZeRo can count as a legitimate exception on this one. As I mentioned before, he did happen to beat Leo at the first ''Ultimate'' invitational, but that's not the basis of the case. His gameplay and fundamentals already mirror those of others considered top professionals in ''Ultimate''. He mirrors YB's case of basically being a hidden boss, except he's relatively outspoken when it comes to the ''Smash'' scene. He already goes toe to toe with other top professionals in offline as well as online play (relatively dispatching people like {{Sm|Myran}} and {{Sm|Elegant}} with ease in the latter type, though I'll acknowledge that it is ''online''). Just my two cents. From an objective of a stance as I can possibly get, I think ZeRo should keep the top professional tag, especially considering he far from sucks at the game. - Anonymous | :::Hey, I'm new to this whole talk page thing so apologies in advance if I'm formatting something incorrectly. I'd normally be hesitant to give top professional status to someone with a lack of tournament results, but I think ZeRo can count as a legitimate exception on this one. As I mentioned before, he did happen to beat Leo at the first ''Ultimate'' invitational, but that's not the basis of the case. His gameplay and fundamentals already mirror those of others considered top professionals in ''Ultimate''. He mirrors YB's case of basically being a hidden boss, except he's relatively outspoken when it comes to the ''Smash'' scene. He already goes toe to toe with other top professionals in offline as well as online play (relatively dispatching people like {{Sm|Myran}} and {{Sm|Elegant}} with ease in the latter type, though I'll acknowledge that it is ''online''). Just my two cents. From an objective of a stance as I can possibly get, I think ZeRo should keep the top professional tag, especially considering he far from sucks at the game. - Anonymous | ||
:::To Jaydyn, those tournaments were around the beginning of the metagame when people were still figuring things out. Also, while Plup and Rideae are good wins, they most likely aren't top 100 in the game, let alone considered for PGR. Finally, he hasn't proven that he could defeat any top players in the current metagame, especially with the rise of DLC. If he is to be considered top professional, I believe ZeRo should attend more tournaments first before we can make a final decision. | |||
:::To IP, first sign your name with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>>. Second, offline and online is different than tournament play, since there's the case of sandbagging and not taking matches seriously, as there are low stakes. Finally, as I said above, we don't know how those fundamentals work in the current metagame; ZeRo needs to prove that he can handle it in actual tournament play before gaining that status. | |||
:::This does bring up a separate point: how do we define Top Professional? For example, {{Sm|Vintendo}} is listed as one despite only having one outstanding placement - is 25th at EVO good enough for Top Professional? [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 12:28, August 12, 2019 (EDT) | |||