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** The conversations about Olimar and [[Alph]] are identical, hence Pit not referring to them by name. Alph is the only alternate character (that isn't a simple gender swap) whose Guidance conversation isn't different from the main character's.
*The conversations about Olimar and [[Alph]] are identical, hence Pit not referring to them by name. Alph is the only alternate character (that isn't a simple gender swap) whose Guidance conversation isn't different from the main character's.
** Like how Snake's [[Codec Conversations#Olimar|codec about Olimar]] has Mei Ling verbally reference "{{SSBBMusicLink|Pikmin|Ai no Uta}}," Viridi listing all of the Pikmin's attributes in order may be a reference to "{{SSBBMusicLink|Pikmin|Tane no Uta}}," which does the same thing in its lyrics (though Viridi does not directly quote it).
*Like how Snake's [[Codec Conversations#Olimar|codec about Olimar]] has Mei Ling verbally reference "{{SSBBMusicLink|Pikmin|Ai no Uta}}," Viridi listing all of the Pikmin's attributes in order may be a reference to "{{SSBBMusicLink|Pikmin|Tane no Uta}}," which does the same thing in its lyrics (though Viridi does not directly quote it).


==={{SSB4|Pac-Man}}===
==={{SSB4|Pac-Man}}===
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==={{SSB4|Robin}}===
==={{SSB4|Robin}}===
[[File:pitsdowntauntchrom.PNG|right|thumb|Chrom's appearance in the conversation about Robin.]]
[[File:pitsdowntauntchrom.PNG|thumb|Chrom's appearance in the conversation about Robin.]]
:'''Pit:''' There's something weird about this fighter, Lady Palutena.
:'''Pit:''' There's something weird about this fighter, Lady Palutena.


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* Pit's unfamiliarity with Shulk references how the ''{{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}'' series was the newest game universe to be introduced to ''Smash 4'' (and the fact that his universe was completely absent from ''Brawl'' due to not being released until over two years later); it could also reference how ''Kid Icarus: Uprising'' was released before ''Xenoblade Chronicles'' in North America.
* Pit's unfamiliarity with Shulk references how the {{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}} series was the newest game universe to be introduced to ''Smash 4'' (and the fact that his universe was completely absent from ''Brawl'' due to not being released until over two years later); it could also reference how ''Kid Icarus: Uprising'' was released before ''Xenoblade Chronicles'' in North America.
* Palutena's statement regarding Shulk's height is somewhat inaccurate; his [https://xeno-underground.net/katimus/monado_archives/xba_033.jpg official height] is 171cm, or 5'7". As the correct height is listed in the Japanese version, this was likely a conversion error by the translators.
* Palutena's statement regarding Shulk's height is somewhat inaccurate; his [https://xeno-underground.net/katimus/monado_archives/xba_033.jpg official height] is 171cm, or 5'7". As the correct height is listed in the Japanese version, this was likely a conversion error by the translators.
* Pit's accented lines reference Reyn's postbattle quotes from ''Xenoblade Chronicles''.
* Pit's accented lines reference Reyn's postbattle quotes from ''Xenoblade Chronicles''.
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==Conversations (''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'')==
==Conversations (''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'')==
:''Note: The majority of veterans reuse their dialogue from ''Super Smash Bros. for Wii U'', with the exceptions of Ganondorf, Ike, Link, Robin, Sheik, and Zelda, as well as Mii Gunner and Wario through updates. These new and altered conversations are listed below.''
These conversations are new to ''Ultimate''. The majority of veterans that were in the base roster of ''Smash 4'' reuse their dialogue from {{forwiiu}}, with the exceptions of Ganondorf, Ike, Link, Robin, Sheik, and Zelda, as well as Mii Gunner and Wario through updates. These new and altered conversations are listed below.


==={{SSBU|Bayonetta}}===
==={{SSBU|Bayonetta}}===
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:'''Viridi:''' Ugh. If you get caught in one of her combos, just...like...[[SDI|wiggle around]] or something.
:'''Viridi:''' Ugh. If you get caught in one of her combos, just...like...[[SDI|wiggle around]] or something.


Note: Palutena calling Bayonetta a "wearer of questionable outfits" is likely based on her default clothes being made entirely of her own hair, which also exposes parts of her body when using the Wicked Weaves (an aspect which is heavily censored in ''Smash Bros.''). Viridi's advice telling Pit to "just wiggle around" out of her combos may jokingly reference the derisive "Just [[SDI]]" meme that appeared in response to complaints about Bayonetta in ''Smash 4'', as SDI is one of the most effective methods to escape Bayonetta's aerial strings.
Note: Palutena calling Bayonetta a "wearer of questionable outfits" is likely based on her default clothes being made entirely of her own hair, which also exposes parts of her body when using the Wicked Weaves (an aspect which is heavily censored in ''Smash Bros.''). Viridi's advice telling Pit to "just wiggle around" out of her combos may jokingly reference the derisive "Just [[SDI]]" meme that appeared in response to complaints about Bayonetta in ''Smash 4'', as SDI is considered to be one of the most effective methods to escape Bayonetta's aerial strings.


==={{SSBU|Chrom}}===
==={{SSBU|Chrom}}===
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:'''Viridi:''' One of his Limit Break moves is called [[Finishing Touch]]. It doesn't do much damage, but it can launch you off the stage in a split second!
:'''Viridi:''' One of his Limit Break moves is called [[Finishing Touch]]. It doesn't do much damage, but it can launch you off the stage in a split second!


:'''Pit:''' Now that I know Cloud's tricks, this one's in the bag! / Not a problem! We're playing Stamina mode!
:'''Pit:''' Now that I know Cloud's tricks, this one's in the bag! / Not a problem! We're playing [[Stamina mode]]!


:'''Viridi:''' Don't let Cloud rain on your parade. Strategy is key!
:'''Viridi:''' Don't let Cloud rain on your parade. Strategy is key!
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*Pit's comment on the Ice Climbers being "kicked out of ''Smash'' for illegal teaming" is likely a reference to their exclusion from ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', as the 3DS version could not handle the mechanics of the two-in-one fighter.
*Pit's comment on the Ice Climbers being "kicked out of ''Smash'' for illegal teaming" is likely a reference to their exclusion from ''Super Smash Bros. 4'', as the 3DS version could not handle the mechanics of the two-in-one fighter.
*Palutena's final line assumes that the Ice Climbers are using their default costume, where Popo leads and Nana follows; however, some alternate costumes can reverse this, making Nana the leader and rendering her advice inaccurate. However, it is common for players to address the partner climber as “Nana” regardless of costume for simplicity sake.
*Palutena's final line assumes that the Ice Climbers are using their default costume, where Popo leads and Nana follows; however, some alternate costumes can reverse this, making Nana the leader and rendering her advice inaccurate. However, it is common for players to address the partner climber as "Nana" regardless of costume for simplicity's sake.


==={{SSBU|Ike}}===
==={{SSBU|Ike}}===
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Note: Pit's enunciation of the first line emulates that of a wrestling announcer. While Pit says "That tiger's on fire!", the in-game text erroneously says '''"That's''' tiger's on fire!"
Note: Pit's enunciation of the first line emulates that of a wrestling announcer. While Pit says "That tiger's on fire!", the in-game text erroneously says '''"That's''' tiger's on fire!"
Regional difference: In the Japanese version, Viridi's last line instead has her saying she "wonder[s] what happens if [Incineroar] fights with {{SSBU|Little Mac}}", possibly referencing [[List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate character trailers#Ken and Incineroar|its reveal trailer]].
Regional difference: In the Japanese version, Viridi's last line instead has her saying she "wonder[s] what happens if [Incineroar] fights with {{SSBU|Little Mac}}", possibly referencing [[List of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate character trailers#Ken and Incineroar|its reveal trailer]].


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:'''Pit:''' Who's the little guy?
:'''Pit:''' Who's the little guy?


:'''Palutena:''' That's Lucas. He's from [[wikibound:Tazmily Village|Tazmily Village]]. Just like Ness, he uses PSI. He might be the most introverted opponent you've ever fought.
:'''Palutena:''' That's Lucas. He's from [[wikibound:Tazmily Village|Tazmily Village]]. Just like [[Ness]], he uses PSI. He might be the most introverted opponent you've ever fought.


:'''Pit:''' If he's so shy, why is he fighting?
:'''Pit:''' If he's so shy, why is he fighting?
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==={{SSBU|Pichu}}===
==={{SSBU|Pichu}}===
:'''Pit:''' Awwwww! It's a baby Pikachu!
:'''Pit:''' Awwwww! It's a baby [[Pikachu]]!


:'''Palutena:''' That's Pichu. It's the form before it evolves into Pikachu. Pichu is still learning to harness its electrical power, so it takes damage whenever it uses electricity.
:'''Palutena:''' That's Pichu. It's the form before it evolves into Pikachu. Pichu is still learning to harness its electrical power, so it takes damage whenever it uses electricity.
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Characters available as [[downloadable content]] use a generic Guidance conversation, presumably to avoid having to repeatedly bring in the characters' voice actors for new lines each time a new character is added. The generic conversation was discovered at {{forwiiu}}'s launch in [http://vocaroo.com/i/s0KivwmAoIq3 the game's] [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25168286 sound files]. The conversation consists of Pit, Palutena, and Viridi briefly discussing an unknown fighter. Unused and inaccessible through normal play at first, it was confirmed to be a placeholder conversation for additional fighters on April 15th, 2015, with the release of the first DLC character, [[Mewtwo]]. Despite [[Bayonetta]]'s reveal trailer involving new voice work of the characters, they did not voice a guidance conversation for her nor any of the previous DLC fighters (which, as DLC was now complete, would have filled in the roster and obviated the generic placeholder).
Characters available as [[downloadable content]] use a generic Guidance conversation, presumably to avoid having to repeatedly bring in the characters' voice actors for new lines each time a new character is added. The generic conversation was discovered at {{forwiiu}}'s launch in [http://vocaroo.com/i/s0KivwmAoIq3 the game's] [http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25168286 sound files]. The conversation consists of Pit, Palutena, and Viridi briefly discussing an unknown fighter. Unused and inaccessible through normal play at first, it was confirmed to be a placeholder conversation for additional fighters on April 15th, 2015, with the release of the first DLC character, [[Mewtwo]]. Despite [[Bayonetta]]'s reveal trailer involving new voice work of the characters, they did not voice a guidance conversation for her nor any of the previous DLC fighters (which, as DLC was now complete, would have filled in the roster and obviated the generic placeholder).


The same dialogue was also found in ''Ultimate'', and was unused until the release of {{SSBU|Joker}}. However, {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}} has a unique conversation, presumably due to being developed at the same time as the main game.
The same dialogue was also found in ''Ultimate'', and was unused until the release of {{SSBU|Joker}}. While the previously downloadable veterans now have unique conversations, downloadable characters for this game received the same treatment as in the previous game. However, {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}} has a unique conversation, presumably due to being developed at the same time as the main game.


:'''Pit:''' Who is THAT?
:'''Pit:''' Who is THAT?
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*Pit's "(L) stands for 'winner'" line during Luigi's conversation would go on to be referenced in ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Odyssey}}'', where the in-game description for Luigi's cap reads, "The "L" stands for "winner"".
*Pit's "(L) stands for 'winner'" line during Luigi's conversation would go on to be referenced in ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Odyssey}}'', where the in-game description for Luigi's cap reads, "The "L" stands for "winner"".
**In the Spanish version of Luigi's conversation, Pit says: "Estoy seguro de que quiere decir "Legendario"." (Which means: "I'm sure it stands for "Legendary"."), which unlike with the English version does begin with an L.
**In the Spanish version of Luigi's conversation, Pit says: "Estoy seguro de que quiere decir "Legendario"." (Which means: "I'm sure it stands for "Legendary"."), which unlike with the English version does begin with an L.
**In the German version, he states it stands for "Leider nur Zweiter", which means "unfortunately only second".


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