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Olimar's grab game has been noticeably buffed as well. His grab has much more range, which can now be extended depending on the amount of Pikmin he has with him, and all of his throws deal more damage on average. As mentioned before, Blue Pikmin's increased throw strength means Olimar now possesses some of the most dangerous KO throws in the game, with up throw in particular having the potential to become even stronger than the likes of {{SSBU|Mewtwo}}, {{SSBU|Charizard}} or {{SSBU|Incineroar}}. Other notable buffs includde to [[up smash]], which has less ending lag to the point it has gained combo potential at low percents, (heightening Olimar's [[out of shield]] game), and [[Pikmin Pluck]], which is faster overall. Finally, in terms of universal changes, Olimar's mobility, while still below-average, has been improved via faster [[dash]]ing and [[air speed]]s.
Olimar's grab game has been noticeably buffed as well. His grab has much more range, which can now be extended depending on the amount of Pikmin he has with him, and all of his throws deal more damage on average. As mentioned before, Blue Pikmin's increased throw strength means Olimar now possesses some of the most dangerous KO throws in the game, with up throw in particular having the potential to become even stronger than the likes of {{SSBU|Mewtwo}}, {{SSBU|Charizard}} or {{SSBU|Incineroar}}. Other notable buffs includde to [[up smash]], which has less ending lag to the point it has gained combo potential at low percents, (heightening Olimar's [[out of shield]] game), and [[Pikmin Pluck]], which is faster overall. Finally, in terms of universal changes, Olimar's mobility, while still below-average, has been improved via faster [[dash]]ing and [[air speed]]s.


However, Olimar received some slight nerfs. At the cost of their stronger attributes, Pikmin are even easier to kill in general; they have slightly lower HP, are now left vulnerable to attacks if Olimar gets hit with a move with enough high knockback move, they can be hit by moves that Olimar already shielded or perfect shielded, and dead Pikmin temporarily becomes the active Pikmin in Olimar's squad upon their death. The former two changes make it harder for Olimar to keep his Pikmin alive, forcing to replenish them more often, while the latter two changes worsen Olimar's consistency for punishing opponents.
However, Olimar received some noticeable nerfs. To compensate for their stronger attributes, Pikmin are even easier to kill in general; they have slightly lower HP, are now left vulnerable to attacks if Olimar gets hit with a move with enough high knockback move, losing their intangibility, they can be hit by moves that he already shielded or perfect shielded, they can get stuck below platforms if he plucks them directly below them, Kirby, King Dedede and Wario can now  eat them with their respective neutral specials and dead Pikmin temporarily become the active Pikmin in his squad when they die. Those changes make it harder for Olimar to keep his Pikmin alive, forcing to replenish them more often, and worsen his punish game.


Olimar's [[down throw]] launches opponents at a more horizontal angle, making follow-ups less reliable. In exchange for longer range, Olimar's grabs tend to have more ending lag, making them riskier to throw out. His recovery also became less abusable as a result of the travel distance of his up special, [[Winged Pikmin]], being further reduced with consecutive use, as well as its regeneration time being slower. Despite his faster mobility, Olimar now possesses one of the slowest [[initial dash]]es in the game, due to other fighters' initial dashes getting far more substantial buffs than his. Finally, his hurtbox is larger vertically, making it easier to hit Olimar.
Olimar's [[down throw]] launches opponents at a more horizontal angle, making follow-ups less reliable. In exchange for longer range, Olimar's grabs tend to have more ending lag, making them riskier to throw out. His recovery also became less abusable as a result of the travel distance of his up special, [[Winged Pikmin]], being further reduced with consecutive use, as well as its regeneration time being slower. Despite his faster mobility, Olimar now possesses one of the slowest [[initial dash]]es in the game, due to other fighters' initial dashes getting far more substantial buffs than his. Finally, his hurtbox is larger vertically, making it easier to hit Olimar.


Overall, Olimar's oppressive damage output and camping abilities have been improved further, though this comes in exchange for Pikmin's fragility becoming even more pronounced than before and Olimar himself being more susceptible to punishment. He has also received some noticeable nerfs in game updates, which have notably affected his viability. While these nerfs aren't enough to outweigh his buffs, and Olimar is considered to be improved in comparison to in ''SSB4'', he performs similarly effective in relation to the returning cast.   
Overall, Olimar's oppressive damage output and camping abilities have been improved further, though this comes in exchange for Pikmin's fragility becoming even more pronounced than before and Olimar himself being more susceptible to punishment and giving him a more inconsistent punish game. He has also received some noticeable nerfs in game updates, which have notably affected his viability. While these nerfs aren't enough to outweigh his buffs, and Olimar is considered to be improved in comparison to in ''SSB4'', he performs similarly effective in relation to the returning cast.   


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