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 ==In [[competitive play]]==
-===Tier placement and history===
-Upon ''SSB4''{{'}}s release, players noted both Ike's buffed mobility and nerfed power, with some arguing that the mobility changes were more important in the faster-paced meta, while others believed the nerfs would be more detrimental in the long run. Eventually, the general consensus agreed that his improved mobility did not properly compensate for his unaddressed flaws and loss of some options from ''Brawl''. However, game updates (most notably [[1.0.8]]) would significantly improve Ike; he gained consistent and strong throw combos, improved hitboxes on many moves, and his lack of a midrange option was alleviated by giving his dash attack KO potential. As such, he began achieving respectable results from dedicated players such as {{Sm|Rango}}, {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|Ryuga}}, {{Sm|San}}, and {{Sm|Waldo}}. As such, he was ranked 26th on the first [[tier list]], a fairly noticeable improvement from his tier placement in ''Brawl''.
-Although game updates considerably improved Ike's perception and were pivotal for his success, Ike has since achieved lower and more average placings at tournaments despite his playerbase continuing to advance his metagame. This is due to the improved results of other characters who benefitted more from the balance changes (such as {{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}) and the inclusion of [[Downloadable content|DLC]] characters (notably {{SSB4|Corrin}}, {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}), who would eventually start to surpass Ike in regard to overall representation and results. In addition, some of his best players, such as Ryuga and Rango, dropped Ike in favor of Corrin and {{SSB4|Cloud}}, respectively. These in turn saw him drop to 35th on the second tier list, and retained this 35th ranking third tier list.
-Ike's perception became rather mixed: some players claimed that his standing was accurate, or should be slightly higher because of his improving placings; evidence stems from Ryo and San, who have earned solid results while taking sets off top players as of 2017, the latter even achieving 4th place at [[Get On My Level 2017]]. However, others claimed he should be ranked lower because of his glaring issues alongside overall mediocre representation and results, citing that he also lacks the growing success of characters ranked below him (such as {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}, {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Samus}}, and {{SSB4|Shulk}}), and putting him among the standing he initially had in ''Brawl''. As a result, Ike continued to drop even further, ranking 39th on the fourth and final tier list, a far cry from his initial placement. To this day, Ike's true tier standing is still greatly up for debate as some smashers like {{Sm|ZeRo}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Raito}} claim that Ike should be ranked lower (the latter claiming that Ike is among the bottom 5 characters in the game) while other smashers like {{Sm|Dabuz}} believe that Ike should be ranked slightly higher due to his strong throw combos and fantastic ledgetraps.
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-''Any number following the Smasher name indicates placement on the [[PGR 100]], which recognizes the official top 100 players in [[Super Smash Bros. 4]] of all time.''
+''See also: [[:Category:Ike players (SSB4)]]''
-''See also: [[:Category:Ike players (SSB4)]]''
+*{{Sm|Ryo|USA}} - The best Ike player of all-time and the only Ike player ever ranked globally, most recently ranking 77th on the [[PGR 100]]. He is the only Ike player to top 8 a major, placing 7th at {{Trn|MLG World Finals 2015}}. Although he later began playing {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSB4|Roy}} alongside Ike, he still managed to have some strong solo-Ike results, most notably 25th at both {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}} and {{Trn|GENESIS 5}}.
+*{{Sm|San|USA}} - One of the best Ike players of all-time with results on-par with Ryo's, including placing 9th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2016}}, 17th at {{Trn|The Big House 5}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|Pound 2016}}, {{Trn|The Big House 6}}, and {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}}, playing only Ike for all five events. However, he traveled less frequently than Ryo and as such was never ranked on the [[PGR]].
+===Tier placement and history===
+Upon ''SSB4''{{'}}s release, players noted both Ike's buffed mobility and nerfed power, with some arguing that the mobility changes were more important in the faster-paced meta, while others believed the nerfs would be more detrimental in the long run. Eventually, the general consensus agreed that his improved mobility did not properly compensate for his unaddressed flaws and loss of some options from ''Brawl''. However, game updates (most notably [[1.0.8]]) would significantly improve Ike; he gained consistent and strong throw combos, improved hitboxes on many moves, and his lack of a midrange option was alleviated by giving his dash attack KO potential. As such, he began achieving respectable results from dedicated players such as {{Sm|Rango}}, {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|Ryuga}}, {{Sm|San}}, and {{Sm|Waldo}}. As such, he was ranked 26th on the first [[tier list]], a fairly noticeable improvement from his tier placement in ''Brawl''.
+Although game updates considerably improved Ike's perception and were pivotal for his success, Ike has since achieved lower and more average placings at tournaments despite his playerbase continuing to advance his metagame. This is due to the improved results of other characters who benefitted more from the balance changes (such as {{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}) and the inclusion of [[Downloadable content|DLC]] characters (notably {{SSB4|Corrin}}, {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}), who would eventually start to surpass Ike in regard to overall representation and results. In addition, some of his best players, such as Ryuga and Rango, dropped Ike in favor of Corrin and {{SSB4|Cloud}}, respectively. These in turn saw him drop to 35th on the second tier list, and retained this 35th ranking third tier list.
-*{{Sm|Ryo|USA}} (#77) - The best Ike player in the world. Placed 7th at {{Trn|MLG World Finals 2015}}, 9th at {{Trn|Shots Fired 2}} and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2016}}, 17th at {{Trn|The Big House 5}}, and 25th at {{Trn|GENESIS 5}}. with wins over players such as {{Sm|ESAM}}, {{Sm|ANTi}}, and {{Sm|Nietono}}.
+Ike's perception became rather mixed: some players claimed that his standing was accurate, or should be slightly higher because of his improving placings; evidence stems from Ryo and San, who have earned solid results while taking sets off top players as of 2017, the latter even achieving 4th place at [[Get On My Level 2017]]. However, others claimed he should be ranked lower because of his glaring issues alongside overall mediocre representation and results, citing that he also lacks the growing success of characters ranked below him (such as {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}, {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Samus}}, and {{SSB4|Shulk}}), and putting him among the standing he initially had in ''Brawl''. As a result, Ike continued to drop even further, ranking 39th on the fourth and final tier list, a far cry from his initial placement. To this day, Ike's true tier standing is still greatly up for debate as some smashers like {{Sm|ZeRo}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Raito}} claim that Ike should be ranked lower (the latter claiming that Ike is among the bottom 5 characters in the game) while other smashers like {{Sm|Dabuz}} believe that Ike should be ranked slightly higher due to his strong throw combos and fantastic ledgetraps.
-*{{Sm|San|USA}} - One of the best Ike players in the world. Placed 4th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2017}}, 9th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2016}} and {{Trn|Canada Cup 2016}}, 17th at {{Trn|The Big House 5}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|Pound 2016}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Cosmos}}, {{Sm|K9sbruce}}, and {{Sm|SuperGirlKels}}. Ranked 1st on the [[New York Power Rankings]].
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