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 :::::I disagree with the notion that it is "fundamentally the same", as it is, at its core, an extension of the universe page, which details the franchise of origin in question; while it does list all of the stuff implemented in Smash from said franchise, it's decidedly one big "origin" section, much like those that you would find on a page for a character, move, Assist Trophy, item, etc., because ''that's its job''. Putting a page like that lumped together with the stuff within said universe makes it look separated and unorganized.
 :::::A new proposal isn't necessary, as this page works just fine—it just needs more people to read it. I think reimplementing the subpages into the main pages is also a bad idea, for the above listed reasons. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 01:43, May 7, 2023 (EDT)
+::::::Fair enough on the point of having them as sub-pages when necessary. I won’t keep bring that point up further. However, on the first point you addressed, I think you are misunderstanding me. I wasn’t suggesting having that on templates where such a sub-page doesn’t exist anyway, which is why in my initial edits I only added it for the 12 for which it would apply. I don’t want the templates bloated either, I just think this is something that belongs there when it is a field that applies for the given universe.
+::::::I think your comparison of that sub-page to the “origin” section on the article for something like a fighter, boss, item, etc has a modicum of merit, but it is not quite the same, as it is not describing the origin of a particular entity as it exists in Smash and how its appearance in Smash reflects or represents its original appearance, but rather goes game by game (or other type of media sometimes) and listing the elements in Smash of each type that have a basis in that media. This is a unique structure for universe pages/these sub-pages of them (or nearly unique, as articles for Masterpiece games have basically the same thing as well), and it is a critical part of our wiki’s description of what the representation in Smash of each universe is. My view is that any article dedicated to any element of a given universe that appears in Smash belongs on that universe’s navigation template, as it is an article one may want to access in relation to that given universe.
+::::::I still see it as a fundamental problem that a page would contain a template and not be itself linked by that template. That to me was the initial indication that these pages warrant a place on the templates for their respective universes. I feel like that on its own should have been reason enough to warrant this, but on the merits of the page’s nature itself it evidently qualifies as a relevant element of the universe template for any universe where it exists. Just as a universe’s overview article in linked at the top of the template, these sub-pages are critical elements of that universe’s coverage on the SmashWiki that have a place on that template.
+::::::I don’t know whether this would require a separate proposal, but I think the most elegant way of including these pages on the templates may actually be to include it linked in the name/header of the template itself, just as how, say the “Masterpieces in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U” template includes links to both the Masterpieces page and the page for Smash for Wii U. Fundamentally, this page is too important to leave off of the template. As an extension of the main universe article, it warrants linking just as the main article does. If having it as its own field would look too inelegant, I see this as likely the best approach.
+::::::I really just believe the template for a given universe should link directly to all the pages focusing on content from that universe that appears in Smash, and I see it as a problem that universes without a sub-page directly link ( by their header) to a page detailing this sort of information, while any universe where that section got split off does not have that information directly linked from the template. I view it this a matter of consistency, and of completeness in the sort of information these templates should directly link, to include a direct link to these sub-pages somewhere on the relevant templates. I would gladly defer to others about how best to arrange the link to maintain the aesthetic consistency of the template, as my concern if of getting it to be there, where it eminently belongs, at all. [[User:Pk62001|Pk62001]] ([[User talk:Pk62001|talk]]) 02:40, May 7, 2023 (EDT)