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::::::::As I said before, when people see page in the SmashWiki namespace they think "I shouldn't edit this page directly, I should leave a comment on the talk page." but there's no such conditioned reaction towards Forum pages. Quite the opposite, in fact, as everyone knows that forum pages are for leaving comments on. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 16:39, 21 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::As I said before, when people see page in the SmashWiki namespace they think "I shouldn't edit this page directly, I should leave a comment on the talk page." but there's no such conditioned reaction towards Forum pages. Quite the opposite, in fact, as everyone knows that forum pages are for leaving comments on. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 16:39, 21 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::::Does anyone actualy use the subforum feature? I don't even know how. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 16:43, 21 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::::Does anyone actualy use the subforum feature? I don't even know how. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 16:43, 21 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::::Click on "Forum" in the Participate box on the left, that will take you to the subforums, then you can click on any of the subforums which'll take you to all the forums created in that subforum. The "Add new topic" box will create a new forum in that subforum.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 16:50, 21 February 2012 (EST)
::::::::::Click on "Forum" in the Participate box on the left, that will take you to the subforums, then you can click on any of the subforums which'll take you to all the forums created in that subforum. The "Add new topic" box will create a new forum in that subforum.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 16:50, 21 February 2012 (EST)


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::Ambassadors can not block users and delete/protect pages. Auto-patrolled allows you to mark an edit as patrolled, which lets other users know that someone has checked that edit. This saves time for multiple people. As for the ambassadorship, I agree with having it. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 02:03, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
::Ambassadors can not block users and delete/protect pages. Auto-patrolled allows you to mark an edit as patrolled, which lets other users know that someone has checked that edit. This saves time for multiple people. As for the ambassadorship, I agree with having it. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 02:03, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
:::@Bandit You know on Game & Watch Wiki that edits that weren't made by admins have red ! Marks in front of them? That means an edit has not been patrolled. You can then patrol said edit to show that this edit has been verified. Auto-patrolled means that all of your edits are automatically patrolled. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:53, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
:Per Mousehunter. This sounds like a really good thing for trusted editors to have. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:48, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
So you're basically proposing a sort of "trusted", "janitor", or "jr. admin" group? ("Ambassador" as used by NIWA's other wikis implies that it's given for free to admins of other wikis.) If so I think you should split this into a new page, because that's relatively major. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 23:24, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
:First we have to come up with some sort of name for it. Other Wikis, namely Wikitroid, call this user right "Patroller". Would that name be appropriate? '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 23:41, 3 June 2012 (EDT)
::Never thought of it as a "Jr. Admin" rights group of sorts, but in a way, I guess it could be considered like one. An Ambassador, or whatever it will be called, would have none of an admin's responsibility, because they won't have the power to block users, delete pages, or be relied on in an admin-requiring situation. But I guess there are similarities. I wouldn't call it patroller, as that would imply patrolling is the only tool granted by this rights group. Janitor would not be suitable either, as these users cannot delete pages (deleting images, at a stretch, could be a potential ability, though that may be controversial). [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:03, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
:::It is the only one other than Rollback, which should probably be granted before w/e anyway, and suppressing redirects which is really minor. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 19:44, 4 June 2012 (EDT)
==Most Recent Appearance==
For each character's infobox, I think it would be nice if it documented each characters most recent appearance. It wouldn't be that hard to do and I would be willing to update it. I don't know how to add another box to the infobox so someone else will have to. Other Wikis do the same thing so I think it would be nice if we did too. See [[Forum:Most Recent Appearance]] for more info. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  17:53, 24 July 2012 (EDT)
:I just added a field to [[Template:Infobox Character General]]. Check it out! [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 17:46, 26 July 2012 (EDT)
::Thank you so much. I'll go fill in the information. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  17:52, 26 July 2012 (EDT)
==Categories==
Just like files could once only be moved by admins, categories can still only be renamed by admins. It would be useful for non-admins to be able to rename categories, should this change be made? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:58, 14 September 2012 (EDT)
:It is not possible even for developers to rename categories. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Da Bomb 16:02, 14 September 2012 (EDT)
::Technically it is not possible. But I think it could be moved to another title, and then using a bot to update the links.--[[File:MegadarderySig.png|x20px|link=User:Megadardery]][[User_talk:Megadardery|egadardery]] (<small>[[Special:Contributions/Megadardery|edits]]</small>) 03:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
==So I've been thinking==
We need some sort of coverage policy for SmashWiki for regular articles. We already have [[SW:NOTE]], but that's just for smasher articles. If there already is one for mainspace articles, I can't find it. Having a coverage policy would simplify things much better in general, help new users ready to create articles understand what kind of articles are acceptable, and avoid [[Forum:Console Articles|pandemoniacal arguments like this.]] <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#4682B4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#007BA7">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the man who arranges the blocks. 17:15, 29 December 2012 (EST)
:Bump. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#4682B4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#007BA7">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] You say you want a revolution? 20:19, 2 January 2013 (EST)
In addition, I think we need to restrict the right to create userpages to autoconfirmed users, to promote constructive edits, and as an extra protection measure against spam. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#4682B4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#007BA7">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] You say you want a revolution? 20:19, 2 January 2013 (EST)
I agree with your second proposal (restricting userpage creation), but I'm not sure what you have in mind for a "coverage policy". Could you elaborate? [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 00:28, 3 January 2013 (EST)
I strongly support your second statement, and we should add Smash Arena to this as well. But I think we have coverage of making new pages [[Help:New page|here]]. [[User talk:Ac2k|<font color="Red">'''''Ac2k'''''</font>]] 21:03, 3 March 2013 (EST)
:Bump. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 16:28, 13 March 2013 (EDT)
==A template for useful pages==
I think this wiki should have a template containing pages that are not policies or help pages, but are useful tools for the user ([[Special:Contributions]], [[Special:Editcount]], [[Forum:Proposals]]), etc. [[User talk:Ac2k|<font color="Red">'''''Ac2k'''''</font>]] 21:10, 3 March 2013 (EST)
:Give me a list and I could literally make one right now. [[User:BlueRidiculous|<font color="blue">'''''Blue'''''</font>]][[User talk:BlueRidiculous|<font color="maroon">''Ridiculous''</font>]] 00:27, 4 March 2013 (EST)
::*[[Special:Editcount]]
*[[Special:Contributions]]
*[[Forum:Proposals]]
*[[Special:Search]]
*[[Special:Statistics]]
*[[SmashWiki:Sandbox]]
*[[Special:WhatLinksHere]]
*[[Special:AllPages]]
*[[Special:PrefixIndex]]
*[[Special:ListRedirects]]
*Category pages for [[:Category:Stubs]], *[[:Category:Articles in need of cleanup]], as well as all subcategories
*[[Special:Watchlist]]
*[[SmashWiki:IRC]]
*[[SmashWiki:YouTube channel]]
*[[Special:WhatLinksHere]]
*[[Special:WebChat]]
*[[SmashWiki:Administrators' noticeboard]]
*[[Forum:Index]]
*[[SmashWiki:Community portal]]
*[[Special:RecentChanges]]
*[[Special:SpecialPages]]
*[[Special:Preferences]]
*[[Special:ChangeEmail]]
*[[Special:ListUsers]]
*[[Special:ActiveUsers]]
*[[Special:PasswordReset]]
*[[Special:ListGroupRights]]
*[[SmashWiki:Users]]
*[[Special:Upload]]
*Maintenance reports*
There's a few more that I've probably forgot. They're mostly useful tools for users to navigate the wiki. It should have sections such as ngTools, Users, etc.
If you can think of more, then add those here. The Special pages used for maintenance reports could also be included, but they might be better in another template. I'm not sure.
Thank you for helping!  [[User talk:Ac2k|<font color="Red">'''''Ac2k'''''</font>]] 17:32, 4 March 2013 (EST)
:I've got the template at {{t|Usefulpages}}. Make modifications if you wish. [[User:BlueRidiculous|<font color="blue">'''''Blue'''''</font>]][[User talk:BlueRidiculous|<font color="maroon">''Ridiculous''</font>]] 00:22, 5 March 2013 (EST)
==SmashWiki:Bot requests==
A new page that contains suggestions for tasks that need to be performable by bots. While not that necessary now, since we have only two, if we ever have more bots, it would be easier if we had this page to deal with bot requests. A person could suggest something a bot should do, and then a bot runner can say that they will do it and then perform the task with the bot/why they disagree with the actions desired. [[SmashWiki:Bot requests]]. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 16:10, 16 April 2013 (EDT)
==News==
My idea is that maybe we should start a newspaper like Super Mario Wiki! I'd be willing to do a section if you give me the options! I should be able to do it one article every two weeks![[User:Klaw King|Klaw King]] ([[User talk:Klaw King|talk]]) 00:02, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
==Disallow the sub-pages that does not serve the wiki==
I've seen several sub-pages that does not serve the wiki at all, Mostly like Userboxes pages. I know it is fun to make them, but we are an encyclopedia not a social page or something. What could be allowed is the /Sandbox /Test /Draft.. and all others, should be merged into the userpage itself.. For people giving their /Userboxes as a link for their friend userbox, the page should be turned into a redirect.
In other word: I propose deleting them, what about you guys?--[[File:MegadarderySig.png|x20px|link=User:Megadardery]][[User_talk:Megadardery|egadardery]] (<small>[[Special:Contributions/Megadardery|edits]]</small>) 03:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:No, because that would make user pages far too long. I see no issue with users making subpages. It's not disruptive unless users make only subpages and don't contribute to the wiki and we have [[SmashWiki:Probation]] to prevent that. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 03:22, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:This almost made me laugh.
:''but we are an encyclopedia not a social page or something''
:Which is why users who focus on their userspace excessively are put on probation.
:''should be merged into the userpage itself''
:As DP99 said, it would make userpages far too big. My userpage is ~25K bytes. If I merged all my subpages, what would it be? 250K? Just 50K is considered more than enough.
:There's no good reason to disallow them. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 06:45, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
== Gallery sections? ==
Should we have a Gallery page like in MarioWiki for the individual pages so that we can add images like most of their moves in that game, stock icons (and re-colours), Classic mode image and more? I think it would be a very easy way to navigate the images of the particular fighter. ----- [[User:Conanshinichi|Conan]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]]  12:45, 26 August 2013 (EDT)
Bump. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 07:29, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
:Having discussed this with Conanshinichi on IRC I think having a gallery for every character's game-specific article showing stuff like their moves, stock icons, etc. could be a good idea. However a stage gallery (showing sutff like different backgrounds and things that can appear in backgrounds or on the stage) could just be on the stage's article as it's not big enough to warrant its own article (unlike galleries for each character as they would be far too big to go on their pages). Though both of us couldn't really think of any other articles that could have galleries. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 08:11, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
::I'll create one in my subpage if it helps you to realize what it will look like. It'll be for Mario in Melee. --[[File:MMAI.png|link=]] [[User:Conanshinichi|<span style="color:#FF0000">Conan</span>]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]] <span class="explain" title="MeMyselfAndI">(MMAI)</span>                                                15:30, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Alright. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 16:55, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
:::I've made it and you can see it [[User:Conanshinichi/Mario (SSBM)/Gallery|here]]. --[[File:MMAI.png|link=]] [[User:Conanshinichi|<span style="color:#FF0000">Conan</span>]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]] <span class="explain" title="MeMyselfAndI">(MMAI)</span>                                                03:27, 29 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Although, we still haven't got images of his moves. Just saying. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 03:36, 29 August 2013 (EDT)
I think this will work out nicely. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 10:10, 29 August 2013 (EDT)
Bump after the recent changes flood. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 15:41, 29 August 2013 (EDT)
I'd say this is a good idea. I'm a little hesitant to include it on the main Mario (SSBM) page in its entirety, as I know a lot of wikis move large galleries like that to subpages, but this one's small enough that I'm less sure where it should be of the two options. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:00, 29 August 2013 (EDT)
:Ones like the example probably would be subpages. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 03:33, 30 August 2013 (EDT)
:I've added about half of Mario's animation if you're curious to what it looks like. --[[File:MMAI.png|link=|19px]][[User:MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF0000">Me</span>]][[User talk:MeMyselfAndI|Myself]][[Special:Contributions/MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF00FF">AndI</span>]]                          07:14, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Would have to say this is a creative idea. Galleries showing all of the stuff a character has in that game sounds pretty organized. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The DS 08:37, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
Now that I've found this proposal on this page that shouldn't exist, I can say I don't like it. Why do we need an animated image for every animation in the game? Why do we need separate image files for every character-related UI texture? How does this benefit users who have the game? I don't think those things are even what this original proposal was about, it just snowballed for some reason. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 16:30, 2 September 2013 (EDT)
:Well, now that you got me thinking about it, it is kinda useless. Guess I should move the page back to [[User:MeMyselfAndI/Mario (SSBM)/Gallery]].  Though I'm still gonna take animations of Every special attack in the game and upload them to their pages. --[[File:MMAI.png|link=|19px]][[User:MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF0000">Me</span>]][[User talk:MeMyselfAndI|Myself]][[Special:Contributions/MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF00FF">AndI</span>]] 16:13, 3 September 2013 (EDT)