Talk:Grab aerial: Difference between revisions

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Now to resolve a conflict let's decide what this should be: grab aerial or aerial tether. As for me I'm '''neutral''' for now because both sides appear to have equal amount of pros and cons. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:12pt"><font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font></span>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 21:11, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
Now to resolve a conflict let's decide what this should be: grab aerial or aerial tether. As for me I'm '''neutral''' for now because both sides appear to have equal amount of pros and cons. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:12pt"><font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font></span>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font>]]'''</span> 21:11, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
:Both grab aerial and aerial tether are scarcely used and can be misleading (Ivysaur has a tether but no zair, Luigi has a zair but no tether). I know zair is informal and is only called that based on a button input, but considering how popular the name is, and the complete lack of an official name for these moves, I personally would like to have this article named '''zair'''. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 21:24, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
:Both grab aerial and aerial tether are scarcely used and can be misleading (Ivysaur has a tether but no zair, Luigi has a zair but no tether). I know zair is informal and is only called that based on a button input, but considering how popular the name is, and the complete lack of an official name for these moves, I personally would like to have this article named '''zair'''. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 21:24, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
::I support renaming this article '''Aerial tether''' because even though I have only ever heard of this type of move referred to as a ''zair'', ''aerial tether'' is a name that in my opinion is the most accurately descriptive. The name ''grab aerial'' can easily be perceived as misleading, even if it does incorporate a part of the technical input involved with performing such a move. There's a context needed to properly interpret what a ''grab aerial'' could be, which the term ''aerial tether'' simply communicates better, in my opinion at least. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer28'''</span>]] 14:10, May 10, 2020 (EDT)
::<s>I support renaming this article '''Aerial tether''' because even though I have only ever heard of this type of move referred to as a ''zair'', ''aerial tether'' is a name that in my opinion is the most accurately descriptive. The name ''grab aerial'' can easily be perceived as misleading, even if it does incorporate a part of the technical input involved with performing such a move. There's a context needed to properly interpret what a ''grab aerial'' could be, which the term ''aerial tether'' simply communicates better, in my opinion at least. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer28'''</span>]] 14:10, May 10, 2020 (EDT)</s> voided by [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer28'''</span>]] 02:26, May 13, 2020 (EDT), see response to OmegaToad below


The IP mentioned '''zair''' and, despite being informal, I believe that '''z aerial''' may be the best compromise should this be renamed. This way not only will it not be misleading but also consistant with the other aerial attacks (up aerial, down aerial, etc), and also fit with our [[SW:OFFICIAL#"Official" nomenclature|policy]] about nomenclature. I support '''z-aerial'''. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:7pt"><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></span>]]'''</span> 23:34, May 12, 2020 (EDT)
The IP mentioned '''zair''' and, despite being informal, I believe that '''z aerial''' may be the best compromise should this be renamed. This way not only will it not be misleading but also consistant with the other aerial attacks (up aerial, down aerial, etc), and also fit with our [[SW:OFFICIAL#"Official" nomenclature|policy]] about nomenclature. I support '''z-aerial'''. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<span style="font-size:7pt"><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></span>]]'''</span> 23:34, May 12, 2020 (EDT)
:After discourse about this proposed move in the discord, I'm actually sort of '''leaning towards this''' option now. We have the leeway to do so: there's no official term for this move type, it's closest to what is generally regarded by most people to be the term for this move type, and the other options are either somewhat misleading despite being etymologically direct (Grab aerial) or technically invalid despite being clear (Aerial tether). It's definitely a notch above just ''Zair'', and since this seems to be a one of a kind situation for a move type, we don't really need to worry too much about consistency with other articles, right? [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer28'''</span>]] 02:26, May 13, 2020 (EDT)
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