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::::No. A character's relative strength in comparison to the rest of the cast is an objective quality, not an opinion. If it were subjective, then you could somehow make a reasonable case for MK not being the best in Brawl, or Kirby being the best in Melee. Zero and Nakat are too optimistic about Smash 4 to call anyone bad. I don't trust alot of what they say because they exaggerate the strengths of their characters while minimizing discussion about their weaknesses. A really gross exaggeration is Zero's analysis on Marth. It is so obvious Marth has been completely gutted in this game. He has no movement to play footsies with. He can't pressure you with aerials. He can't run away and camp you. And he can't setup kills or edgeguards. Yet all Zero says is "Marth is still good; you have to play him differently." Zero would rather tell a white lie to not offend casual Marth mains than tell the truth. | ::::No. A character's relative strength in comparison to the rest of the cast is an objective quality, not an opinion. If it were subjective, then you could somehow make a reasonable case for MK not being the best in Brawl, or Kirby being the best in Melee. Zero and Nakat are too optimistic about Smash 4 to call anyone bad. I don't trust alot of what they say because they exaggerate the strengths of their characters while minimizing discussion about their weaknesses. A really gross exaggeration is Zero's analysis on Marth. It is so obvious Marth has been completely gutted in this game. He has no movement to play footsies with. He can't pressure you with aerials. He can't run away and camp you. And he can't setup kills or edgeguards. Yet all Zero says is "Marth is still good; you have to play him differently." Zero would rather tell a white lie to not offend casual Marth mains than tell the truth. | ||
::::If you want to prove to me that Fox is anywhere near good, please disprove all the things I have stated in my first paragraph. Prove that he has safe movement to approach with. Prove he can somehow bait and punish bad approaches with lasers. Frame data would serve you better than heuristics.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 16:25, 3 December 2014 (EST) | ::::If you want to prove to me that Fox is anywhere near good, please disprove all the things I have stated in my first paragraph. Prove that he has safe movement to approach with. Prove he can somehow bait and punish bad approaches with lasers. Frame data would serve you better than heuristics. In other words you should present actual in game evidence or analysis that you thought of yourself instead of saying "I feel like he's better because he feels better to me" or saying "Fox is better because other people say so."--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 16:25, 3 December 2014 (EST) | ||