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#'''This should not be an enforced rule in any capacity'''. Aside from the fact that I'm skeptical of the notion that it's a problem for an English language Wiki to have better coverage of the American scene than other scenes, this really just seems more cruel than anything. We already have pretty high standards for who can be considered a notable player, all things considered, and I don't really think we should be raising them even higher, '''and we absolutely should not be doing so only for American players''', as this really comes across more as trying to enforce some sort of quota, more than anything. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 08:12, March 24, 2021 (EDT) | #'''This should not be an enforced rule in any capacity'''. Aside from the fact that I'm skeptical of the notion that it's a problem for an English language Wiki to have better coverage of the American scene than other scenes, this really just seems more cruel than anything. We already have pretty high standards for who can be considered a notable player, all things considered, and I don't really think we should be raising them even higher, '''and we absolutely should not be doing so only for American players''', as this really comes across more as trying to enforce some sort of quota, more than anything. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 08:12, March 24, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose''': I'm already on record that these sections need to be significantly trimmed across the wiki and am planning to propose something aimed at that, which should really happen first before we talk about if Amerioan players are overrepresented (like the Mario page probably shouldn't have 14 players in its section at all). But regardless, I am against any "forced diversification" in general, as the reality is that the various regions/countries are not equal in scene size/strength, and I don't like the idea of axing the sixth best Mario from the States to be replaced with a worse/less prominent Mario player just because the latter happens to reside in a weaker/"less represented" region that gives them a "more impressive" regional ranking. Players should be judged on their individual merits for these sections, with little if any concern for where they reside. I also seen the mention in the discord on how individual states aren't equivalent to countries, and while this is technically true, many individual states still have stronger regions than many individual countries, like a typical NYC tourney is almost certainly tougher than nearly any other country's "major". <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:04, March 24, 2021 (EDT) | #'''Oppose''': I'm already on record that these sections need to be significantly trimmed across the wiki and am planning to propose something aimed at that, which should really happen first before we talk about if Amerioan players are overrepresented (like the Mario page probably shouldn't have 14 players in its section at all). But regardless, I am against any "forced diversification" in general, as the reality is that the various regions/countries are not equal in scene size/strength, and I don't like the idea of axing the sixth best Mario from the States to be replaced with a worse/less prominent Mario player just because the latter happens to reside in a weaker/"less represented" region that gives them a "more impressive" regional ranking. Players should be judged on their individual merits for these sections, with little if any concern for where they reside. I also seen the mention in the discord on how individual states aren't equivalent to countries, and while this is technically true, many individual states still have stronger regions than many individual countries, like a typical NYC tourney is almost certainly tougher than nearly any other country's "major". <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:04, March 24, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#'''Oppose''': This whole proposal is complete nonsense. While yes it's true that there is an abundance of American players in the notable players sections, that does not give an excuse to remove/discourage people from adding American players in these sections because we're "biased". With the size of the playerbase for Smash in America, it makes sense that there will be a load of notable players who come from there. There's no reason for us to remove a top Mario player from America in favor of a less skilled player from another country on the grounds of the region being "less represented". Not all countries are equal in size/population, America is one of the most populated countries which results in it being the hive of the competitive playerbase. What constitutes as notable is based on their skill, what country, race, nationality, etc they're from has little to no importance on whether or not they deserve a mention. Discouraging people from addinng signifgicant players for the sole reason that they're American is pathetic considering the whole point of these sections is to document players who made a signifficant impact with a particular character. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omega Toαd,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 07:16, June 2, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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