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==Fan made stuff on Smashwiki== | ==Fan made stuff on Smashwiki== | ||
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==Hey== | ==Hey== | ||
A few things: | A few things: | ||
#We should put a notice at the top of this page that says "'''This page is not for propsals. If you have a proposal, see [[Forum: | #We should put a notice at the top of this page that says "'''This page is not for propsals. If you have a proposal, see [[Forum:General proposals|this page]].'''" | ||
#In the fifth line of the Main Page's source, there is <code><nowiki>[[Super Smash Bros. (universe)|Super Smash Bros.]]</nowiki></code>. Admins please add Template uv there. My OCD is getting ticked off. | #In the fifth line of the Main Page's source, there is <code><nowiki>[[Super Smash Bros. (universe)|Super Smash Bros.]]</nowiki></code>. Admins please add Template uv there. My OCD is getting ticked off. | ||
#Is there a Mega Man wiki we can link to in interwiki links? | #Is there a Mega Man wiki we can link to in interwiki links? | ||
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:It is most definitely not intentional, I suggest you e-mail [[User:Porplemontage]] about it, he runs the site and if it's not being caused by a virus on your computer/browser, he's probably the only one who can fix it. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:09, 9 September 2014 (EDT) | :It is most definitely not intentional, I suggest you e-mail [[User:Porplemontage]] about it, he runs the site and if it's not being caused by a virus on your computer/browser, he's probably the only one who can fix it. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:09, 9 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::It is happening less frequently. I am still able to contribute. However, I do warn to stay cautious when clicking the icon if you do not eliminate any adware extensions on your browser. It's only odd because this one icon is the only page redirection on the entire internet that takes me to any ads.--[[User:RICEMANTOM|RICEMANTOM]] ([[User talk:RICEMANTOM|talk]]) 17:37, 9 September 2014 (EDT) | ::It is happening less frequently. I am still able to contribute. However, I do warn to stay cautious when clicking the icon if you do not eliminate any adware extensions on your browser. It's only odd because this one icon is the only page redirection on the entire internet that takes me to any ads.--[[User:RICEMANTOM|RICEMANTOM]] ([[User talk:RICEMANTOM|talk]]) 17:37, 9 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
==American Demo== | ==American Demo== | ||
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The Music button on the Navigation section links to <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music (SSBB)]]</nowiki></code> rather than <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music]]</nowiki></code>. I can understand it being like that when Brawl was the newest Smash game, albeit a little unusual, but now that Smash 4 is out, it feels a little counterproductive, seeing as how it focuses on Brawl and leaves out Smash 4's music, in addition to Melee and Smash 64's music. Would it be alright if it was changed to link to either <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Music (disambiguation)]]</nowiki></code>? I can't change it myself, since the page is protected. Also, if it would be a bad idea, can I have an explanation as to why it wouldn't be preferable? - [[User:Mistiryshak|Mistiryshak]] ([[User talk:Mistiryshak|talk]]) 13:31, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | The Music button on the Navigation section links to <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music (SSBB)]]</nowiki></code> rather than <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music]]</nowiki></code>. I can understand it being like that when Brawl was the newest Smash game, albeit a little unusual, but now that Smash 4 is out, it feels a little counterproductive, seeing as how it focuses on Brawl and leaves out Smash 4's music, in addition to Melee and Smash 64's music. Would it be alright if it was changed to link to either <code><nowiki>[[Category:Music]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Music (disambiguation)]]</nowiki></code>? I can't change it myself, since the page is protected. Also, if it would be a bad idea, can I have an explanation as to why it wouldn't be preferable? - [[User:Mistiryshak|Mistiryshak]] ([[User talk:Mistiryshak|talk]]) 13:31, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
:Yeah that section could use a general update. I'll take a look. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomperable 13:38, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | :Yeah that section could use a general update. I'll take a look. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomperable 13:38, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
== A proposal I've had for quite some time, but feel may be necessary due to increased traffic and recent vandalism == | |||
Tommy Barnes has struck again, this time going on right after Toomai apparently logged off. I think that with the increased traffic and activity of the wiki as it is in SSB4, it also means increased vandalism. However, interestingly, this has not meant increased admins. How do we combat this? The solution is simple: Do what a lot of other NIWA wikis already have done, and introduce "junior adminship." | |||
A junior administrator might have the ability to do basic things to keep the wiki in check, such as blocking users or IPs, deleting pages, semi-protecting pages, and the like. I feel like these are necessary to combat vandalism and often necessary to hold down order on the wiki. However, they do not need any more of the abilities that administrators have, such as editing the MediaWiki namespace or having access to the SmashWiki email/YouTube accounts, as these are not necessary to combat vandalism. | |||
I feel like the recent vandalism going on for this long is indicative of the necessity of introducing this new usergroup, as well as the fact that we have only two active administrators right now even though the wiki is probably about to reach the peak of its activity once SSB4 drops outside Japan. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] <!--You looked at the wikicode, didn't you?--> 15:48, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:'''Incredibly Strong Support''', the past 200 edits on the site are all vandals and vandal reverts, we can't have this happen again. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:54, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:'''Strongest support I could possibly give''' This vandal is simply ridiculous. He has figured out the time to strike, which is why he did so right after Toomai and Miles went offline - and the attack went on for almost 50 minutes. However, despite the fact that no admins were anywhere to be seen during that time, there were probably more than 20 rollbackers and other users reverting him. We '''need''' a junior administrator rank for issues like this, which is why I fully support this proposal. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:55, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:'''Huge Major Support'''. He won't stop, a junior admin would be nice to block and delete pages. [[User: Rtzxy | <span style="color: darkorange;"> '''Rtzxy''' </span>]] [[File:Signature SmashBall.jpeg]] [[User talk: Rtzxy | <span style="color:darkblue;"> '''Smashing!''' </span>]] 15:57, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:'''REALLY HUGE support'''. Laikue, Scr7 and Rtzxy said pretty much all that's needed to be said. It really annoys me seeing all those spam pages and knowing I can't delete them. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 16:00, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:'''Strong Support''' I would like to know the process. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America 16:03, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
If the problem is "lack of admins", and your proposed solution is "more people with admin powers"...then why don't we have people applying for adminship? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Hammer 16:01, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:Maybe because, people are really tired of vandals, and only want to stop them but doesn't know a lot of advanced features to improve the wiki. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 16:05, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:Adminship is commonly seen as a massive burden of responsibility which gives power for tools such as Special:CheckUser, as well as much higher potential for abuse. Users trying to apply for adminship have commonly met with a massive wave of opposition in the past, no matter who they are, and people seem to be averse to handing over the keys for something this large, as well as many of the current rollbackers viewed as most likely admins not wanting the job for similar reasons. Junior adminship could help do most of the tools we need to have for the wiki, but not taking the burden most administrators and candidates for adminship face. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] Is anyone there? Oh... hi! 16:07, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
Well, on both counts (real and junior), the real question is '''Who?''' even if it seems overly diplomatic, there's always the last resort of an election. Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 16:09, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:I've been thinking about that. One reason I'm proposing junior adminship is because this wiki is notorious for having RfAs fail, so I'm thinking that it's decided by admins or bureaucrats, given to rollbackers who have shown above-average dedication and goodwill to the wiki, as well as being constantly active. To remove potential of a spoils system, a Junior Adminship appointment will fail in case of extraordinary community backlash. If you want my opinion as to who would make good junior admins as of right now, I'd say Berrenta, Dr. Pain, Havoc, Mr. Crow, Scr7 or myself. I'm not suggesting we make all of these people junior admins, just naming the type of people who would make good candidates. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] {{S|Template|S}}o you want a good template? 16:13, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:<strike>Obviously, me, as I'm da best.</strike> I think Scr7, Crow, Berrenta, AC, and maybe Dots would be best. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:15, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
The main issue I see with any sort of "mini-admin that can block/protect/delete" rank is that those kinds of powers are the only ones most people care about. No one's going to want to graduate from that to full adminship if all they're getting is more responsibility with no fun tools. | |||
I'm undecided whether I'm actually against the idea or just having a knee-jerk reaction to change. I suggest maybe you should do up a proper proposal so we don't take over too much of this talk page. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 16:18, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:You bring up a good point with your first paragraph, I'm going to draft a proposed policy with a few tweaks in the original idea to address this. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] Well, I saw mushroom head. 16:22, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
If you guys are trying to get a junior admin in as a role, I would suggest giving it to Scr7, AirCon, DoctorPain99, Timson62222, Starman125, JamesHeart123, Conny, and me. Just kidding (but they are good choices). :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Kirby 16:26, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
If this passes, I'd suggest that anyone eligible enough can only self-apply just like RfRs and RfAs. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me 16:29, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:But if that happens, everyone will fail. :P Seriously though, I agree. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 16:32, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::Maybe the process would work like an RfR. Only show Toomai you've combat vandalism and don't necessary need community support. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America 16:35, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::That sounds good. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 16:38, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
'''Bloody Flipping Brilliant Idea''': This wiki needs more people to block vandals, delete redirects etc, but according to our current staff, nobody willing is eligible for full-on adminship. So we just give this role to the appropriate people. Genius. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 18:34, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
NOTE FOR FUTURE PEOPLE: The conversation has been moved to [[SmashWiki talk:Junior administrators]]. <span style="font-family:Magneto">[[User:Air Conditioner|{{Color|Navy|Return of}}]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|{{Color|#007BA7|Air Conditioner}}]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] , the king of carrot flowers 18:37, 22 September 2014 (EDT) | |||