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In a first for the series, {{s|wikipedia|Makiko Ōmoto}} does not provide Ness with any new voice clips, instead all [[PK Freeze|but one]] of his voice lines from ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' have been repurposed for ''Ultimate''.
In a first for the series, {{s|wikipedia|Makiko Ōmoto}} does not provide Ness with any new voice clips, instead all [[PK Freeze|but one]] of his voice lines from ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' have been repurposed for ''Ultimate''.


Ness is currently ranked 47th out of 82 characters on the Ultimate [[tier list]], placing him in the B- tier. While this could be seen as a slight drop from ''Smash 4'', when he was ranked 28th/29th out of 54 characters (tied with {{SSB4|Lucas}}), his incarnation in ''Ultimate'' is generally considered his strongest in the series. Ness has a fairly well-rounded design in ''Ultimate,'' with useful tools in most phases of the game. He is most notable for his great aerial game: all of his aerials can [[autocancel]] in a short hop, are fast, powerful, disjointed, and useful for both racking up damage and KOing. His grab game is also among the best in the cast, as all of his throws have practical uses: His down throw is a viable combo starter, his forward and up throw can put the opponent in an unfavourable position when he can pressure them and his back throw is among the strongest KO throws in the game. Furthermore, Ness' specials all have flexible utility: [[PK Flash]], [[PSI Magnet]], and [[PK Fire]] can all start or extend combos, while the latter can quickly rack up damage and set up strong punishes, and PSI Magnet allows him to absorb some projectiles to heal himself, like [[Snake (SSBU)|Snake]]'s explosives. Ness's recovery has improved in ''Ultimate'' thanks to buffs to [[PK Thunder]] and PK Thunder 2 — and by virtue of having the longest directional air dodge distance in the game alongside {{SSBU|Lucas}}.  
Ness is currently ranked 47th out of 82 characters on the Ultimate [[tier list]], placing him in the B- tier. While this could be seen as a slight decline from ''Smash 4'', when he was ranked 28th/29th out of 54 characters (tied with {{SSB4|Lucas}}), his incarnation in ''Ultimate'' is generally considered his strongest in the series. Ness has a fairly well-rounded design in ''Ultimate,'' with useful tools in most phases of the game. He is most notable for his strong aerial game: all of his aerials are fast, powerful, disjointed, and useful for both racking up damage and KOing. His grab game is also among the best in the cast, as all of his throws have practical uses: His down throw is a viable combo starter, and his back throw is among the strongest KO throws in the game. Furthermore Ness' specials all have flexible utility: [[PK Flash]], [[PSI Magnet]], and [[PK Fire]] can all start or extend combos, while the latter can quickly rack up damage and set up strong punishes. Ness's recovery has improved in ''Ultimate'' thanks to buffs to [[PK Thunder]] and PK Thunder 2 — and by virtue of having the longest directional air dodge distance in the game alongside {{SSBU|Lucas}}.  


However, Ness does have some exploitable weaknesses. He suffers from poor grounded mobility and a lack of [[range]] in his normal attacks. Altogether, characters with large and/or [[disjointed hitbox]]es can easily outrange Ness, forcing him to play defensively and leaving him with few options in neutral and disadvantage. Because of his slow mobility on the ground, his approach options are also limited, especially when combined with his aforementioned sub-par range. Still, his most glaring flaw is perhaps his recovery, which, despite its improvements, is exploitable by many characters.
However, Ness does have some exploitable weaknesses. He suffers from poor grounded mobility and a lack of [[range]] in his normal attacks. Altogether, characters with large and/or [[disjointed hitbox]]es can easily outrange Ness, forcing him to play defensively and leaving him with few options in neutral and disadvantage. Because of his slow mobility on the ground, his approach options are also limited, especially when combined with his aforementioned sub-par range. Still, his most glaring flaw is perhaps his recovery, which, despite its improvements, is exploitable by many characters.
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Ness has been significantly buffed in his transition from ''SSB4'' to ''Ultimate''. Various changes to his previous options and the addition of new ones have positively impacted his playstyle, and the changes to the game's engine strengthen his kit.
Ness has been significantly buffed in his transition from ''SSB4'' to ''Ultimate''. Various changes to his previous options and the addition of new ones have positively impacted his playstyle, and the changes to the game's engine strengthen his kit.


Ness' ground game is better compared to previous iterations; [[forward tilt]] is now a viable KO option, [[dash attack]] has increased knockback and range, [[up tilt]] has decreased ending lag and is useful for starting combos, and [[down tilt]] racks up damage much more effectively, especially near the ledge. Among his most significant buffs are the changes to his yo-yo smash attacks ([[up smash]] and [[down smash]]), which not only regained their charging hitboxes, but now hang below the ledge to very easily set up edgeguards against most characters; up smash has also lost its weaker early hit and has dramatically higher knockback, making it a viable KO option for the first time.
Ness' ground game is better compared to previous iterations; [[forward tilt]] is now a viable KO option, [[dash attack]] has increased knockback and range, [[up tilt]] has decreased ending lag and is useful for starting combos, and [[down tilt]] racks up damage much more effectively, especially near the ledge. Among his most significant buffs are the changes to his yo-yo smash attacks ([[up smash]] and [[down smash]]), which not only regained their charging hitboxes, but now hang below the ledge to very easily set up edgeguards against most characters; up smash has also lost its early hit and has dramatically higher knockback, making it a viable KO option for the first time.


Many of Ness' other tools are more effective as well. All of his aerials, save for his neutral and back aerials, deal more damage, and he has gained a new [[up aerial]] that hits multiple times, allowing for drag-down combos and set-ups while retaining most of its standalone KO power. [[Down aerial]] is faster, has more range, can autocancel in a short hop once again and has a much stronger [[meteor smash]] effect. The universal reduction to landing lag also significantly benefits Ness, especially with his neutral and down aerials, making his aerial approaches harder to punish. In terms of special moves, [[PK Flash]] charges much more quickly and no longer causes [[helpless]]ness; [[PK Fire]] has reduced lag (especially landing lag, making it far more useful when used in the air) that improves its combo and set-up potential, and [[PK Thunder]] deals more damage. His most notable buff, however, comes from a significantly improved [[PSI Magnet]]; the move now has a hitbox (similarly to {{SSBU|Lucas}}, although during the move rather than when canceling the move) that possesses a rehit rate, which gives it offensive use for the first time in the series, as it helps Ness extend combos and gives him newfound KO confirms at high percentages.
Many of Ness' other tools are more effective as well. All of his aerials, save for neutral aerial, deal more damage, and he has gained a new [[up aerial]] that hits multiple times, allowing for drag-down combos and set-ups while retaining most of its standalone KO power. [[Down aerial]] has more range, can once again be autocanceled from a short hop, and has a much stronger [[meteor smash]] effect. In terms of special moves, [[PK Flash]] charges much more quickly and no longer causes [[helpless]]ness; [[PK Fire]] has reduced lag (especially landing lag, making it far more useful when used in the air) that improves its combo and set-up potential, and [[PK Thunder]] deals more damage. His most notable buff, however, comes from a significantly improved [[PSI Magnet]]; the move now has a hitbox (similarly to {{SSBU|Lucas}}, although during the move rather than when canceling the move) that possesses a rehit rate, which gives it offensive use for the first time in the series, as it helps Ness extend combos and gives him newfound KO confirms at high percentages.


The universal changes in ''Ultimate'' have improved Ness as well, especially the new [[air dodge]] mechanics and general buffs to aerial attacks. The return of directional air dodges benefits Ness tremendously, as his own directional air dodge travels further than that of any character (aside from Lucas), providing a reliable [[recovery]] option aside from the notoriously exploitable PK Thunder 2. The removal of multiple air dodges also enables Ness to pressure opponents in the air with PK Thunder more consistently. Furthermore, Ness' already great aerial game is further compounded by the universal reductions to landing lag, improving their safety and combo potential.
The universal changes in ''Ultimate'' have improved Ness as well, especially the new [[air dodge]] mechanics and general buffs to aerial attacks. The return of directional air dodges benefits Ness tremendously, as his own directional air dodge travels further than that of any character (aside from Lucas), providing a reliable [[recovery]] option aside from the notoriously exploitable PK Thunder 2. The removal of multiple air dodges also enables Ness to pressure opponents in the air with PK Thunder more consistently. Furthermore, Ness' already great aerial game is further compounded by the universal reductions to landing lag, improving their safety and combo potential.
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===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
Initial opinions of Ness were fairly positive, as the numerous buffs he received during the transition from ''Smash 4'' and the addition of several new mechanics in ''Ultimate'' improved his neutral, advantage, recovery, and movement options. Ness' early results reflected these improvements: The character saw strong performances at majors from players such as {{Sm|Gackt}} and {{Sm|Scend}}; regionally, he was represented well by a multitude of players, including {{Sm|ATATA}}, {{Sm|Awestin}}, {{Sm|PeW}}, {{Sm|S1}}, and {{Sm|FOW}}. As such, Ness was widely considered a high-tier character in the early metagame of ''Ultimate''. Notably, perception of Ness is even higher in online play, as the presence of increased [[Wi-Fi lag|input lag]] ostensibly made his quick aerials even safer and his recovery more difficult to challenge, allowing players such as Scend and {{Sm|Syrup}} to flourish during the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]], which temporarily relegated all large tournaments to an online format.  
Initial opinions of Ness were fairly positive, as the numerous buffs he received during the transition from ''Smash 4'' and the addition of several new mechanics in ''Ultimate'' improved his neutral, advantage, recovery, and movement options. Ness' early results reflected these improvements: The character saw strong performances at majors from players such as {{Sm|Gackt}} and {{Sm|Scend}}; regionally, he was represented well by a multitude of players, including {{Sm|ATATA}}, {{Sm|Awestin}}, {{Sm|PeW}}, {{Sm|S1}}, and {{Sm|FOW}}. As such, Ness was widely considered a high-tier character in the early metagame of ''Ultimate''. Notably, perception of Ness is even higher in online play, as the presence of increased [[Wi-Fi lag|input lag]] ostensibly makes his quick aerials even safer and his recovery more difficult to challenge, allowing players such as Scend and {{Sm|Syrup}} to flourish during the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]], which temporarily relegated all large tournaments to an online format.  


Ness has remained popular in the post-online metagame, with representation in or around the top 20 among all characters. Although he continues to see high tournament placements, he has generally underperformed his online results, and his weaknesses have become more apparent over time. As in previous Smash titles, Ness' limited attack range hinders his neutral against certain characters, particularly swordfighters such as {{SSBU|Lucina}} and {{SSBU|Shulk}}. He also struggles to recover without the use of his double jump, and his floatiness leaves him susceptible to juggling. Furthermore, several characters introduced via [[DLC]] are believed to be overpowered, rendering traditional characters less appealing by comparison. Given his pronounced strengths and weaknesses, even Ness' strongest players face inconsistency — Gackt followed a top 3 finish at {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}} with 49th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}} a month later — or have picked up other characters to alleviate Ness' weaknesses — Syrup picked up {{SSBU|Steve}} and has gradually used the character more in competitive play.  
Ness has remained popular in the post-online metagame, with representation in or around the top 20 among all characters. Although he continues to see high tournament placements, he has generally underperformed his online results, and his weaknesses have become more apparent over time. As in previous Smash titles, Ness' limited attack range hinders his neutral against certain characters, particularly swordfighters such as {{SSBU|Lucina}} and {{SSBU|Shulk}}. He also struggles to recover without the use of his double jump, and his floatiness leaves him susceptible to juggling. Furthermore, several characters introduced via [[DLC]] are believed to be overpowered, rendering traditional characters less appealing by comparison. Given his pronounced strengths and weaknesses, even Ness' strongest players face inconsistency — Gackt followed a top 3 finish at {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}} with 49th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}} a month later — or have picked up other characters to alleviate Ness' weaknesses — Syrup picked up {{SSBU|Steve}} and has gradually used the character more in competitive play.  


The shifting opinions on Ness' viability was reflected during the voting for ''Ultimate''{{'}}s first [[tier list]], with opinions on his viability being noticeably different across regions: Japan in particular ranked him much lower compared to other countries, especially the United States.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://blog.start.gg/ultranks-first-official-ssbu-tier-list-4a35bf3dcfc3|title=First Official SSBU Tier List}}, data located in the "Regional Differences" section</ref> Due to this, Ness debuted at 40th out of 82 characters on ''Ultimate's'' first tier list, in the B+ tier. Following this, Syrup made the transition to Steve while regulating Ness as a secondary, and Scend's performances at major events declined. Reflecting this, Ness fell seven spots on the second LumiRank tier list, dropping to the B- tier.
Divergent opinions on Ness' viability were reflected in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s first "official" [[tier list]], with his average ranking varying considerably across regions: Japan in particular ranked him much lower compared to other countries, especially the United States.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://blog.start.gg/ultranks-first-official-ssbu-tier-list-4a35bf3dcfc3|title=First Official SSBU Tier List}}, data located in the "Regional Differences" section</ref> Overall, Ness debuted at 40th out of 82 characters on ''Ultimate's'' first tier list, in the B+ tier. Following this, Syrup made the transition to Steve while relegating Ness to a secondary, and Scend's performances at major events declined. Reflecting this, Ness fell seven spots on the second LumiRank tier list, dropping to the B- tier.


Despite his middling tier list placement, Ness still enjoys strong results at most levels of competition: Gackt remains the preeminent representative of Ness on a global scale, earning the 27th spot on the [[LumiRank 2023]] and defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}} at {{Trn|GENESIS X}}, while ATATA and Scend have placed highly at the regional level. As such, opinions of Ness' current stance in the metagame continued to vary across regions: while some regions, especially Japan, continue to believe Ness lacks the representation for a higher tier placing, some regions, especially the United States and Latin America, still view Ness as a solid high-tier character and ranked him higher for the second tier list. Overall, Ness' incredible offensive tools are offset by weaknesses in his neutral and disadvantage; he therefore remains a common yet polarizing character in competitive play.
Despite his middling tier list placement, Ness still enjoys strong results at most levels of competition: Gackt remains the preeminent representative of Ness on a global scale, earning the 27th spot on the [[LumiRank 2023]] and defeating {{Sm|MkLeo}} at {{Trn|GENESIS X}}, while ATATA and Scend have placed highly at the regional level. As such, opinions of Ness' current stance in the metagame remain varied: While some regions, especially Japan, continue to believe Ness lacks the representation for a higher tier placing, some regions, especially the United States and Latin America, still view Ness as a solid high-tier character and ranked him higher for the second tier list. Overall, Ness' incredible offensive tools are offset by weaknesses in his neutral and disadvantage; he therefore remains a common yet polarizing character in competitive play.


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