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{{ImageCaption|File:BowserPichuWeightUltimate.gif|File:Weight Balanced Ultimate.gif|width1=200px|width2=200px|size=410px|align=right|caption=A weight demonstration from the {{SSB|Mushroom Kingdom}} stage.<br>{{SSBU|Pichu}} and {{SSBU|Bowser}} have very different weight values, while both {{SSBU|Lucario}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}} have the same weight values.}}

[[File:SSBU Weight and Knockback graph.png|thumb|300px|right|A graph demonstrating how the rate of knockback increase is affected by weight, labeled with Bowser's and Pichu's weights in SSBU]]

Weight is, in practice, understood as how difficult it is to send a character flying away. Because of this, it is generally considered an advantage for a character to be heavy, as less knockback makes it harder to [[KO]] a character. Additionally, in ''[[Melee]]'', ''[[Brawl]]'', and ''[[Smash 4]]'', many [[throws]] [[Frame speed multiplier|take longer to execute]] on heavier characters, giving the opponent being thrown more time to properly react to throws and to [[DI]] effectively. Because throwing heavier characters causes the throwing animation to continue longer once the target is released, the ending lag of the throw is increased and thus the viability of throw [[combo]]s may be affected; for example, in ''Melee'', {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} is not vulnerable to many of the [[up throw]] [[chain grab]]s (such as from {{SSBM|Marth}}) that the [[space animal]]s are vulnerable to despite his equivalently fast falling speed; in ''Brawl'', the {{SSBB|Ice Climbers}}' infinite chain grabs are more difficult to perform on heavyweights as the increased ending lag gives the player a smaller window in which to execute regrabs; and in ''Smash 4'', {{SSB4|Robin}}'s [[down throw]] to [[up aerial]] "Checkmate" KO setup doesn't true combo for a KO on {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Charizard}} at any percent, due to the combination of their weight extending the throw's ending lag enough and their slow falling speed allowing them to stay out of the up aerial's range at KO percents. In ''[[Ultimate]]'', weight is a factor in determining how much a character can be [[Jostle|pushed by an opponent]] running into them, and how far they will push other opponents.

These values use a different scale than the later games - heavier characters have lower numbers, representing a direct multiplier in the knockback formula. For comparison purposes, the equivalent value in the newer system is also listed. The conversion rate from the old system to the newer system is (200/weight) - 100. [http://smashboards.com/threads/simple-facts-that-you-may-not-know.308210/page-16]

 

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|'''n/a'''||{{head|Giga Bowser|g=SSBM|s=20px}} [[Giga Bowser]]||140

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|'''n/a'''||{{head|Giga Bowser|g=SSBM|s=20px}} [[Giga Bowser]]||140

|rowspan=2|'''8-9'''

|{{CharHead|Dr. Mario|SSBM|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=2|100

|rowspan=3|'''12-14'''

|{{CharHead|Peach|SSBM|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=3|90

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|'''n/a'''||{{b|Giga Bowser|Final Smash}}||400

|'''n/a'''||[[Wario-Man]]||130

|'''26'''||{{CharHead|Peach|SSBB|hsize=20px}}||89

|'''+2'''||{{b|Giga Bowser|Final Smash}}||400||

|'''+1'''||[[Giga Mac]]||140||

|'''n/a'''||[[Wario-Man]]||

|rowspan=3|'''15-17'''||{{CharHead|Mega Man|SSB4|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=3|102

|{{head|Mii Brawler|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{head|Mii Swordfighter|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{head|Mii Gunner|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{SSB4|Mii Fighter}} (heaviest)

|rowspan=2|'''18-19'''||{{CharHead|Cloud|SSB4|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=2|100

|'''20'''||{{CharHead|Lucario|SSB4|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=2|99

|'''n/a'''||[[Mega Lucario]]||

|rowspan=3|'''21-23'''||{{CharHead|Corrin|SSB4|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=3|98||rowspan=4|25

|rowspan=3|'''24-26'''||{{head|Mii Brawler|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{head|Mii Swordfighter|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{head|Mii Gunner|g=SSB4|s=20px}} {{SSB4|Mii Fighter}} (lightest)||rowspan=3|97

|{{CharHead|Luigi|SSB4|hsize=20px}}||rowspan=6|24

|'''n/a'''||[[Giga Bowser]]||150

*A [[tip]] in ''Smash 4'' states that Kirby is the third-lightest character in the game, and Mr. Game and Watch is the second. While this was originally true, the addition of Mewtwo, as well as Kirby's weight being changed, made this tip incorrect (he is now the fifth-lightest, tied with Fox, Olimar, and Pikachu, while Mr. Game & Watch is now the third-lightest).

*For some characters, weights in the ''Smash'' series are sometimes inconsistent with those for said characters in other games, possibly due to balancing purposes rather than accuracy to source material. [[Yoshi]], for example, is a heavyweight in every ''Smash'' title, but is in the medium and light classes in the ''Mario Kart'' series. The inverse is true for [[Rosalina]], although the weight class of karts seems to be based on a character's size instead of how much they actually weigh (Rosalina is very tall, which might dictate her kart's size and weight). Another character, [[Mewtwo]], weighs 269 pounds/122 kilograms according to the Pokédex, but is one of the lightest characters in every ''Smash'' game in which it is a playable character. However, it is explained in ''Melee'' that Mewtwo is easier to send flying around due to it using its psychic powers to constantly float. [[Sephiroth]] is, similarly, one of the lightest humanoid characters, despite having a canon given weight of 191 pounds; whether this is due to using telekinetic movement or simply to suit his ''Ultimate'' playstyle is not currently explained.

**Likewise, [[Mr. Game & Watch]] has had the greatest increase in weight, with 15 units being added in the transition to ''Brawl'' from ''Melee''.