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'''Zelda''' ({{ja|ゼルダ|Zeruda}}, ''Zelda'') is one of the more unique characters in the lineup for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. Zelda's most notable traits are her array of powerful magical attacks and her unique ability to transform herself into her alter ego, {{SSBM|Sheik}}. This alternate form is very different from Zelda, and each was intended to help balance the other's weaknesses, so that ideally one would change between the two based on the flow of battle. | '''Zelda''' ({{ja|ゼルダ|Zeruda}}, ''Zelda'') is one of the more unique characters in the lineup for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. Zelda's most notable traits are her array of powerful magical attacks and her unique ability to transform herself into her alter ego, {{SSBM|Sheik}}. This alternate form is very different from Zelda, and each was intended to help balance the other's weaknesses, so that ideally one would change between the two based on the flow of battle. | ||
Jun Mizusawa reprises her role as Zelda from ''Ocarina of Time'' in the game. | Jun Mizusawa reprises her role as Zelda from ''Ocarina of Time'' in the game. | ||
Currently, Zelda is 24th on the tier list, the lowest-ranked character in D-tier. Zelda's positive attributes include an effective KO move with her [[Lightning Kick]], as well as several powerful attacks. | Currently, Zelda is 24th on the tier list, the lowest-ranked character in D-tier. Zelda's positive attributes include an effective KO move with her [[Lightning Kick]], as well as several powerful attacks. Zelda's primary weakness, however, is her poor mobility; she possesses (along with Jigglypuff) the slowest dash speed in the game, and is a slow-faller. These attributes, combined with her very high [[traction]], result in her possessing the shortest [[wavedash]] in the game (alongside Peach). Additionally, despite Zelda's long range on her recovery, it is fairly predictable and easily edgeguarded and/or edgehogged due to its awkward endlag. This contributes to Zelda having poor matchups against most of the cast, although many recent developments have been made that may positively impact her ability to perform in the modern meta. | ||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
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One of Zelda's strengths is her great overall KO power. Within the air, her forward and back aerials of the Lightning Kick can KO at as low as 50%, and her up air has a large hitbox that can also KO opponents. On the ground, Zelda's up tilt is surprisingly powerful, with its long duration and large radius allowing it to be a versatile move under most circumstances. Zelda's up and forward smash attacks are also powerful and they have high damage output thanks to their multiple hits. | One of Zelda's strengths is her great overall KO power. Within the air, her forward and back aerials of the Lightning Kick can KO at as low as 50%, and her up air has a large hitbox that can also KO opponents. On the ground, Zelda's up tilt is surprisingly powerful, with its long duration and large radius allowing it to be a versatile move under most circumstances. Zelda's up and forward smash attacks are also powerful and they have high damage output thanks to their multiple hits. | ||
In addition, Zelda has some fast attacks, such as her down smash (which is the fastest in the game) and her forward and back aerials, which requires opponents to tread more carefully when used. [[Nayru's Love]] has invincibility at frame 4, which makes it a good move to counterattack fast approaches. Up smash possesses quick startup and can be used as a great out of shield option, as it can lead to a grab if the opponent SDIs out of it. Forward smash has very low ending lag, a good disjointed hitbox, and a quick animation. The very last hitbox is significantly larger than the previous, being able to sometimes reach someone who SDI's in the front of the move. It can be also be thrown out in neutral to read fast approaches without putting herself in a bad spot. As an added bonus, many of Zelda's attacks have [[Priority#Transcendent priority|transcendent priority]]; combined with average reach for most of her attacks, Zelda has potential to stop others' attacks with her own. | In addition, Zelda has some fast attacks, such as her down smash (which is the fastest in the game) and her forward and back aerials, which requires opponents to tread more carefully when used. [[Nayru's Love]] has invincibility at frame 4, which makes it a good move to counterattack fast approaches. Up smash possesses quick startup and can be used as a great out of shield option, as it can lead to a grab if the opponent SDIs out of it. Forward smash has very low ending lag, a good disjointed hitbox, and a quick animation. The very last hitbox is significantly larger than the previous, being able to sometimes reach someone who SDI's in the front of the move. It can be also be thrown out in neutral to read fast approaches without putting herself in a bad spot. As an added bonus, many of Zelda's attacks have [[Priority#Transcendent priority|transcendent priority]]; combined with average reach for most of her attacks, Zelda has potential to stop others' attacks with her own. | ||
Despite most of her moves dealing high knockback, she has an acceptable combo game. Her dash attack is her primary combo starter on the ground, all of her tilts are great comboing moves, her forward tilt can send her opponents backwards, allowing for potential combo starters, her up tilt can juggle at low percentages and follow up with an up aerial when it stops comboing and her down tilt can combo into itself until around 95% and can also combo into her down smash. Up smash can also be used a few times in a row at low percentages if the opponent gets caught right above her. In addition to this, Zelda possesses a good grab game. Her up throw can be a kill confirm around 80% as it leads to a guaranteed bair/fair on certain matchups. It also has the potential to chain throw at low percentages, and her down throw has several potential follow-ups, such as a dash attack, Lightning Kick, or even a forward tilt and can set up stage spikes and early edge-guards. Her forward and back throws are quite powerful and can set up edge-guards or even K.O. at high percentages. Neutral air can also be used to guarantee these aerials (on certain matchups) if landed without the last hitbox, which will make the opponent pop up with a set knockback. | Despite most of her moves dealing high knockback, she has an acceptable combo game. Her dash attack is her primary combo starter on the ground, all of her tilts are great comboing moves, her forward tilt can send her opponents backwards, allowing for potential combo starters, her up tilt can juggle at low percentages and follow up with an up aerial when it stops comboing and her down tilt can combo into itself until around 95% and can also combo into her down smash. Up smash can also be used a few times in a row at low percentages if the opponent gets caught right above her. In addition to this, Zelda possesses a good grab game. Her up throw can be a kill confirm around 80% as it leads to a guaranteed bair/fair on certain matchups. It also has the potential to chain throw at low percentages, and her down throw has several potential follow-ups, such as a dash attack, Lightning Kick, or even a forward tilt and can set up stage spikes and early edge-guards. Her forward and back throws are quite powerful and can set up edge-guards or even K.O. at high percentages. Neutral air can also be used to guarantee these aerials (on certain matchups) if landed without the last hitbox, which will make the opponent pop up with a set knockback. | ||
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|ftiltdmg=13% (hand), 12% (arm), 11% (shoulder) | |ftiltdmg=13% (hand), 12% (arm), 11% (shoulder) | ||
|ftiltdesc=Swipes her hand forward with sparks. Has transcendent priority. Can be angled up or down. Second strongest forward tilt in ''Melee'', only beaten by {{SSBM|Bowser}}'s sweetspotted [[forward tilt]]. The hitbox on Zelda's hand sends the opponent behind her. | |ftiltdesc=Swipes her hand forward with sparks. Has transcendent priority. Can be angled up or down. Second strongest forward tilt in ''Melee'', only beaten by {{SSBM|Bowser}}'s sweetspotted [[forward tilt]]. The hitbox on Zelda's hand sends the opponent behind her. | ||
|utiltname= | |utiltname= | ||
|utiltdmg=11% | |utiltdmg=11% | ||
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|usmashdesc=Waves her hand in an arch similar to her up tilt three times. A powerful move if all hits manage to connect. It comes out on frame 5, making it the fastest up smash in the game. This subsequently means that it can good out-of-shield option, but it can be SDI'd out of, similarly to her forward smash, in addition to possessing incredibly short horizontal range. | |usmashdesc=Waves her hand in an arch similar to her up tilt three times. A powerful move if all hits manage to connect. It comes out on frame 5, making it the fastest up smash in the game. This subsequently means that it can good out-of-shield option, but it can be SDI'd out of, similarly to her forward smash, in addition to possessing incredibly short horizontal range. | ||
|dsmashname= | |dsmashname= | ||
|dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|11}} | |dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|11}} | ||
|dsmashdesc=Quickly kicks both sides of herself. Short range with a slightly disjointed hitbox and poor power, but is the fastest down-smash in the game, coming out at frame 4 and only having 31 total frames. Has transcendent priority. Zelda's leg is intangible when she delivers both kicks. | |dsmashdesc=Quickly kicks both sides of herself. Short range with a slightly disjointed hitbox and poor power, but is the fastest down-smash in the game, coming out at frame 4 and only having 31 total frames. Has transcendent priority. Zelda's leg is intangible when she delivers both kicks. | ||
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|fairname=[[Lightning Kick]] | |fairname=[[Lightning Kick]] | ||
|fairdmg=20% (sweet), 10% (sour) | |fairdmg=20% (sweet), 10% (sour) | ||
|fairdesc=Kicks forward. If the opponent is hit with the glowing spark at the tip of Zelda's foot, it zaps them ''very'' powerfully, in a way similar to Captain Falcon's [[Knee Smash]]. Has transcendent priority. | |fairdesc=Kicks forward. If the opponent is hit with the glowing spark at the tip of Zelda's foot, it zaps them ''very'' powerfully, in a way similar to Captain Falcon's [[Knee Smash]]. Has transcendent priority. | ||
|bairname=[[Lightning Kick]] | |bairname=[[Lightning Kick]] | ||
|bairdmg=20% (sweet), 10% (sour) | |bairdmg=20% (sweet), 10% (sour) | ||
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==In [[competitive play]]== | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
===Most historically significant players=== | ===Most historically significant players=== | ||
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:''See also: ''[[:Category: Zelda professionals (SSBM)]]'' | :''See also: ''[[:Category: Zelda professionals (SSBM)]]'' | ||
*{{Sm|Kalne|Japan}} - [[Sheilda|Co-mains Zelda and Sheik]]. Has multiple top 8 at Japanese locals such as [[MasterHand]], and a win over {{Sm|Takuwan}}. Ranked 37th on the [[Japan SSBM Rank 2019]]. | *{{Sm|Kalne|Japan}} - [[Sheilda|Co-mains Zelda and Sheik]]. Has multiple top 8 at Japanese locals such as [[MasterHand]], and a win over {{Sm|Takuwan}}. Ranked 37th on the [[Japan SSBM Rank 2019]]. | ||
*{{Sm|Narcissa|USA}} - Peaked at 2nd on the [[Chicago Power Rankings]], won [http://challonge.com/sgdq2013melee | *{{Sm|Narcissa|USA}} - Peaked at 2nd on the [[Chicago Power Rankings]], won [http://challonge.com/sgdq2013melee SGDQ 2013] and placed high at many [[Show Me Your Moves]] locals, later switched to Roy and became inactive. | ||
*{{Sm|Rienne|USA}} - Created [https://www.profaneto.me/2017/07/the-profane-tome-index.html?m=1 The Profane Tome], which is considered a "bible" for Zelda players. Has wins over {{Sm|Ka-Master}}, {{Sm|Nicki}}, and {{Sm|Mekk}}. | *{{Sm|Rienne|USA}} - Created [https://www.profaneto.me/2017/07/the-profane-tome-index.html?m=1 The Profane Tome], which is considered a "bible" for Zelda players. Has wins over {{Sm|Ka-Master}}, {{Sm|Nicki}}, and {{Sm|Mekk}}. | ||
*{{Sm|The Lake|USA}} - The best Zelda player in the world prior to his death. Placed 9th at {{Trn|Fight Pitt VI}} and 25th at {{Trn|The Big House}}. Ranked 8th on [[Pittsburgh Power Rankings]] in 2017, peaked at 4th; 4-stocked {{Sm|Nintendude}} in a tournament match.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://youtu.be/8RM-J9V8iP4|title=Nintendude Vs. The Lake}}</ref> | *{{Sm|The Lake|USA}} - The best Zelda player in the world prior to his death. Placed 9th at {{Trn|Fight Pitt VI}} and 25th at {{Trn|The Big House}}. Ranked 8th on [[Pittsburgh Power Rankings]] in 2017, peaked at 4th; 4-stocked {{Sm|Nintendude}} in a tournament match.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://youtu.be/8RM-J9V8iP4|title=Nintendude Vs. The Lake}}</ref> | ||
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===Tier placement and history=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
Zelda was ranked extremely high on the first [[tier list]], tying for 6th place with {{SSBM|Samus}} and {{SSBM|Luigi}}; however, discussion in [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 the MBR average tiers topic] suggests this is an artifact of some tier list contributors grouping her with her top-tier counterpart {{SSBM|Sheik}}, and her placement was not fully based on her prowess as an independent character. The second tier list rectified this and had Zelda tie with Link and Ness for 14th to 16th place. Following this, Zelda fell again to 20th on the third tier list, and has since frequently appeared on the 19th and 20th spots on the tier list. Zelda's position is attributed to a combination of undesirable traits, being floaty, a middleweight yet tall (making her easy to juggle and KO from the upper blast line), having sluggish mobility, a poor [[wavedash]], and poor hitbox placements on most of her moves. However, the most important factor of Zelda’s lack of viability is Sheik’s existence as a top tier, which has deterred many smashers from using her in serious play. | Zelda was ranked extremely high on the first [[tier list]], tying for 6th place with {{SSBM|Samus}} and {{SSBM|Luigi}}; however, discussion in [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 the MBR average tiers topic] suggests this is an artifact of some tier list contributors grouping her with her top-tier counterpart {{SSBM|Sheik}}, and her placement was not fully based on her prowess as an independent character. The second tier list rectified this and had Zelda tie with Link and Ness for 14th to 16th place. Following this, Zelda fell again to 20th on the third tier list, and has since frequently appeared on the 19th and 20th spots on the tier list. Zelda's position is attributed to a combination of undesirable traits, being floaty, a middleweight yet tall (making her easy to juggle and KO from the upper blast line), having sluggish mobility, a poor [[wavedash]], and poor hitbox placements on most of her moves. However, the most important factor of Zelda’s lack of viability is Sheik’s existence as a top tier, which has deterred many smashers from using her in serious play. | ||
Zelda is currently ranked 24th on the thirteenth tier list, in what is her lowest standing on the list thus far. Prior to the ranking, she was ranked 22nd, with some smashers disputing whether this was an accurate assessment; | Zelda is currently ranked 24th on the thirteenth tier list, in what is her lowest standing on the list thus far. Prior to the ranking, she was ranked 22nd, with some smashers disputing whether this was an accurate assessment; {{Sm|Mew2King}} notably believed that Zelda [http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2014/may/02/kirby-and-zelda-are-two-worst-characters-melee-pichu-highly-underrated-mew2king-discusses-his-super-smash-bros-tier-list-pt-1/ was one of the two worst characters in the game], citing her poor frame data in his assessment. | ||
Zelda has made little impact in tournaments from the start of the metagame, with relatively few dedicated mains. Her only modern players are semi-active at best, and usually do not place high enough to earn money in large tournaments without also using a better character. Additionally, many of the historically best Zeldas, most notably {{Sm|Narcissa}}, have stopped playing the game entirely. Usually, the only time when Zelda shows up in top level play is when Sheik players transform into her off-stage to take advantage of her longer [[recovery]] where they would otherwise not be able to recover; if the opponent is aggressive enough, they may be forced to fight as her until an opportunity to transform back is available. | Zelda has made little impact in tournaments from the start of the metagame, with relatively few dedicated mains. Her only modern players are semi-active at best, and usually do not place high enough to earn money in large tournaments without also using a better character. Additionally, many of the historically best Zeldas, most notably {{Sm|Narcissa}}, have stopped playing the game entirely. Usually, the only time when Zelda shows up in top level play is when Sheik players transform into her off-stage to take advantage of her longer [[recovery]] where they would otherwise not be able to recover; if the opponent is aggressive enough, they may be forced to fight as her until an opportunity to transform back is available. | ||
==In | ==In 1-P Mode== | ||
===In {{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== | ===In {{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== | ||
In the Classic Mode, Zelda can appear in the ordinary 1 on 1 battles, on a team with either {{SSBM|Link}}, {{SSBM|Marth}}, {{SSBM|Young Link}}, {{SSBM|Peach}} or {{SSBM|Bowser}}, or in the game's metal battle. In her appearances, Zelda appears on [[Temple]], though she appears on Great Bay when with Young Link, and on Battlefield when with Bowser and in the metal battle. Unusually, however, Zelda will never appear as an ally in team and giant fights. | In the Classic Mode, Zelda can appear in the ordinary 1 on 1 battles, on a team with either {{SSBM|Link}}, {{SSBM|Marth}}, {{SSBM|Young Link}}, {{SSBM|Peach}} or {{SSBM|Bowser}}, or in the game's metal battle. In her appearances, Zelda appears on [[Temple]], though she appears on Great Bay when with Young Link, and on Battlefield when with Bowser and in the metal battle. Unusually, however, Zelda will never appear as an ally in team and giant fights. | ||
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==[[Trophies]]== | ==[[Trophies]]== | ||
In addition to the normal trophy about Zelda as a character, there are two trophies about her as a fighter, unlocked by completing the Adventure and All-Star modes respectively with Zelda on any difficulty: | In addition to the normal trophy about Zelda as a character, there are two trophies about her as a fighter, unlocked by completing the [[Adventure]] and [[All-Star]] modes respectively with Zelda on any difficulty: | ||
{{Trophy/Fighter | |||
|name=Zelda | |||
|image=Princess Zelda Trophy Melee.png | |||
|mode=Classic | |||
|desc=The crown princess of Hyrule. Zelda entrusted Link with the future of Hyrule after a revelation came to her in the world of dreams. She knows much about the Triforce; in fact, the only person who likely knows more about Triforce lore is Ganondorf himself, whom Zelda evaded in Ocarina of Time by transforming into her alter ego, Sheik. | |||
|gamelist={{Trophy games|game1=The Legend of Zelda|release1=7/87}} | |||
|game=Melee | |||
}} | |||
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{{Trophy/Fighter | |||
|name=Zelda | |||
|image=Princess Zelda Trophy (Smash).png | |||
|mode=Adventure | |||
|desc=Zelda is a bit slow and, because of her light frame, easy to send flying. On the other hand, her magical skills lend her reliable and explosive attack power. Zelda's easier to use if you focus on waiting and countering rather than pressing attacks. She can use Nayru's Love to reflect projectile attacks or as an offensive weapon. | |||
|gamelist=:B: Nayru's Love | |||
:Smash B: Din's Fire | |||
|game=Melee | |||
}} | |||
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{{Trophy/Fighter | |||
|name=Zelda | |||
|image=Princess Zelda Trophy 2 (Smash).png | |||
|mode=All Star | |||
|desc=Zelda's midair Lightning Kick centers immense magical power in the ball of her foot. If she strikes perfectly, the attack is as strong as can be. If her aim is slightly off, it'll be exceedingly weak. Farore's Wind again utilizes Zelda's magical prowess, this time by transporting her great distances. It's vital to know the lay of the land before using this move. | |||
|gamelist=:Up & B: Farore's Wind | |||
:Down & B: Transform | |||
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==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Zelda|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Zelda|Alternate costumes]]== | ||