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== Hope I didn't make a headache for ya == | == Hope I didn't make a headache for ya == | ||
In regards to the Knockback page, specifically the Melee Formula, I've tried to make it look more in line with the rest of the wiki and wanted to actually know if you think the RAW formula (how the game actually calculates it) should be on that page or if the simplified version I made should. You can see the differences here: [http://germonster.io/MeleeKnockbackSimplified.gif] and [http://germonster.io/MeleeKnockbackRAW.gif]. I kinda think the latter, more difficult to read, might be better to have just because it's more precise, and if anyone looks it up on here hoping to use it for a knockback calculator or to emulate Melee it would be better. But then again, if someone's just trying to look up the formula to get a rough idea of how the mechanic works and be able to easily tell what weights the formula the simplified version would be much better. You're the wiki pro so hopefully you can decide easier than I can. I'll check back here in a few hours! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User: | In regards to the Knockback page, specifically the Melee Formula, I've tried to make it look more in line with the rest of the wiki and wanted to actually know if you think the RAW formula (how the game actually calculates it) should be on that page or if the simplified version I made should. You can see the differences here: [http://germonster.io/MeleeKnockbackSimplified.gif] and [http://germonster.io/MeleeKnockbackRAW.gif]. I kinda think the latter, more difficult to read, might be better to have just because it's more precise, and if anyone looks it up on here hoping to use it for a knockback calculator or to emulate Melee it would be better. But then again, if someone's just trying to look up the formula to get a rough idea of how the mechanic works and be able to easily tell what weights the formula the simplified version would be much better. You're the wiki pro so hopefully you can decide easier than I can. I'll check back here in a few hours! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Dippndots|Dippndots]] ([[User talk:Dippndots|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dippndots|contribs]]) 17:34, 17 November 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:I think the simplified version is enough. We definitely do not need two though. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:38, 17 November 2016 (EST) | :I think the simplified version is enough. We definitely do not need two though. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:38, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
:If you don't mind, I'm going to do a bit of altering so that the formula looks closer to what we have for the other games. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Rainbow 18:38, 17 November 2016 (EST) | :If you don't mind, I'm going to do a bit of altering so that the formula looks closer to what we have for the other games. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Rainbow 18:38, 17 November 2016 (EST) | ||
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== About Dragonfirebreath25 == | == About Dragonfirebreath25 == | ||
Backup for DFB25: I don't think Dragonfirebreath25 did anything wrong, it may've just been a coincidence that a bunch of ban-evading IPs linked to his and that was only on Mariowiki. I've been down this road in the past I was framed for vandalism once before but it wasn't me it was just a younger sibling who obviously shared with my IP and I was back on. His edit appear to be good as well. Please reconsider. | Backup for DFB25: I don't think Dragonfirebreath25 did anything wrong, it may've just been a coincidence that a bunch of ban-evading IPs linked to his and that was only on Mariowiki. I've been down this road in the past I was framed for vandalism once before but it wasn't me it was just a younger sibling who obviously shared with my IP and I was back on. His edit appear to be good as well. Please reconsider. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:The RPG Gamer|The RPG Gamer]] ([[User talk:The RPG Gamer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/The RPG Gamer|contribs]]) 21:49, 26 November 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:There is no reason to reconsider. I gave him the chance to argue his point, and instead of saying something to that effect, he simply asked not to be blocked. | :There is no reason to reconsider. I gave him the chance to argue his point, and instead of saying something to that effect, he simply asked not to be blocked. | ||
:''I want to stay here because I'm a huge fan of Mario and Smash! Please, let me stay and get myself a second chance!'' | :''I want to stay here because I'm a huge fan of Mario and Smash! Please, let me stay and get myself a second chance!'' | ||
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== Smasher:iBDW == | == Smasher:iBDW == | ||
Hello, since you're the only other one to have edited the page thus far, I was wondering if you could tell me how to make the page title lowercase (the "i" is supposed to be lowercase and it was even requested by the smasher the page is about), if not make the change yourself. Thank you in advance. | Hello, since you're the only other one to have edited the page thus far, I was wondering if you could tell me how to make the page title lowercase (the "i" is supposed to be lowercase and it was even requested by the smasher the page is about), if not make the change yourself. Thank you in advance. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MaxHoney|MaxHoney]] ([[User talk:MaxHoney|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MaxHoney|contribs]]) 19:39, 8 December 2016 (EST)</small> | ||
:Got it. Also read [[SW:SIGN]] please. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 19:39, 8 December 2016 (EST) | :Got it. Also read [[SW:SIGN]] please. Thanks! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 19:39, 8 December 2016 (EST) | ||
==Recent Widespread | ==Recent Widespread Editing of Player Secondaries== | ||
Normally I would not go to an administrator for a problem but this I feel needs to be addressed; Poultry has been adding characters to Smashers' pages (such as by listing Yoshi as one of Duck's, MattDotZeb's, and WarriorKnight's secondaries) and it has gotten so out of hand and has been happening for the past several months. He's done this for many players and I've had to undo his edits at least a dozen times. If you could notify him or something then that would be appreciated as I am very much trying to keep the wiki as accurate as possible. [[User:RICEMANTOM|RICEMANTOM]] ([[User talk:RICEMANTOM|talk]]) 14:56, 14 December 2016 (EST) | Normally I would not go to an administrator for a problem but this I feel needs to be addressed; Poultry has been adding characters to Smashers' pages (such as by listing Yoshi as one of Duck's, MattDotZeb's, and WarriorKnight's secondaries) and it has gotten so out of hand and has been happening for the past several months. He's done this for many players and I've had to undo his edits at least a dozen times. If you could notify him or something then that would be appreciated as I am very much trying to keep the wiki as accurate as possible. [[User:RICEMANTOM|RICEMANTOM]] ([[User talk:RICEMANTOM|talk]]) 14:56, 14 December 2016 (EST) | ||
:If they use a secondary AND win against a player in their region in tournament (no matter what it is), it is valid to add them. If they are known by many people for using them (such as on stream), exceptions can be made, but only few ones. That being said, if Poultry is adding them without taking into mind these things, yea an admin could notify him so that he stops. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 17:31, 14 December 2016 (EST) | |||
::First I am going to point out that it's not vandalism. Second, I disagree Beep. We should list the mains and secondaries depending on a) how good they are with the character, b) how often they use the character, and c) is the character just used for sandbagging. There is no steadfast rule for what determines the limits on each of these, and there shouldn't be. We have to use good judgement. | |||
::Now as it happens, I have already [[User talk:Poultry#Mains|talked]] to Poultry about this because I had a few problems with the mains he was adding before. If you have a similar problem, you should do the same. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:59, 14 December 2016 (EST) | |||
:::While I agree on those grounds (such as SFAT's Ganondorf and Duck's Marth), he's been adding secondaries that there is neither footage of nor any source to indicate they've even played the character at all. For instance, Renth, who I know personally, had Roy listed as a secondary yet he hasn't played Roy in any sort of setting, be it casual or competitive. It's not like this is a terribly pressing issue been it has been occurring a lot and isn't doing any justice to the wiki. [[User:RICEMANTOM|RICEMANTOM]] ([[User talk:RICEMANTOM|talk]]) 21:19, 14 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== Corporate Patrick == | |||
Hey man, I'm new to this wiki, so I feel like I should briefly introduce myself. My name is Patrick Mitchell (aka Corporate Patrick) and I am a TO from Springfield Missouri. Someone posted on our Facebook page that soon after they updated the Melee PR that you deleted our page completely for noteriety concerns, siting that a top player in our region didn't have this on there personal page. This page was relatively new to my knowledge, so that's probably why. I also do not see why it constitutes deleting a whole page. We have some of the best smash 4 players in the state, and our top player Dr. B is one of (if not the best) players in Missouri, and has played several notable players in his career. I can provide the info needed and make sure it meets all your standards, just don't delete our page again. And next time, give us constructive feedback instead of just deleting a page all together. I don't mean that in a desrespectful way, I just know a lot of people in the community our upset with this. | |||
Hope we can resolve this issue quickly. | |||
[[User:Corporate Patrick|Corporate Patrick]] ([[User talk:Corporate Patrick|talk]]) 23:24, 20 December 2016 (EST) | |||
:Hello and welcome! Typically for the United States, we only have state PRs, not city ones. There are some exceptions such as the [[Las Vegas Power Rankings]], but only because the state of Nevada has no PR. ...You say you have the best Smash 4 players in the state? If that's true, they should be [[Missouri Power Rankings|here]] on the Missouri PR...Although now that I look at it, the page does not feature Smash 4. Is there a Smash 4 PR for Missouri in effect, do you happen to know? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 23:31, 20 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== Changes to the Melee 20XX post/thread/whatever from MysticPower== | |||
i was just wondering, why did you remove the character costume list on the melee 20XX mod post? not trying to make a big deal but i worked a while to make those.(NOTE:i did not put the original costumes for c. falcon or falco, i only did the pal versions for them. i did all the other ones though.anyways hope you can respond.bye | |||
[[User:MysticPower|MysticPower]] ([[User talk:MysticPower|talk]]) 14:20, 21 December 2016 (EST) | |||
:This would make 20XX the only mod apart from PM to have a costume list. On top of that, the list was extremely unprofessionally written and there were no images to compliment the descriptions. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:59, 21 December 2016 (EST) | |||
ok and im not trying to be rude but i did kinda enjoy the list | |||
[[User:MysticPower|MysticPower]] ([[User talk:MysticPower|talk]]) 19:10, 21 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== Super Smash Con == | |||
Well basically all the smasher pages have "Super Smash Con" listed in their results, which leads to the disambiguation instead of the actual tournament page. So to fix that we either have to go to every smasher page and replace "Super Smash Con" with "Super Smash Con 2015" or create a "Super Smash Con" => "Super Smash Con 2015" redirect, which I felt was the better thing to do. [[User:Dimo|Dimo]] ([[User talk:Dimo|talk]]) 17:19, 25 December 2016 (EST) | |||
:The replacement should be made in that case. It's tough I guess but if the tournament was renamed, that's the path that should be taken. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:42, 25 December 2016 (EST) | |||
== Onpu the Zelda == | |||
I'm questioning why you removed Onpu the Zelda when he has got some notable wins against some well known Japanese players and has notable results like 7th at karisuma11 and 13th at karisuma10, two majors. | |||
if you don't believe me then here are some brackets because he has better overall results than Dante, Enny, and MaXy. | |||
Karisuma11: http://challonge.com/karisuma11 | |||
Karisuma10: http://challonge.com/karisuma10 | |||
[[User:Bobalicious|Bobalicious]] ([[User talk:Bobalicious|talk]]) 17:32, 25 December 2016 (EST) | |||
:Standards for the notable players sections are higher than for having a smasher page. Additionally, you should really consider reading the rules because it lacked the required description, which is an automatic reversion, no questions asked. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:44, 25 December 2016 (EST) | |||