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For all characters I’m seeing some videos of characters and analyzing what moves have been given an upgrade or if that move gotten worse | For all characters I’m seeing some videos of characters and analyzing what moves have been given an upgrade or if that move gotten worse <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:SuperPeachy|SuperPeachy]] ([[User talk:SuperPeachy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SuperPeachy|contribs]]) 13:00 10 August 2018 (EDT)</small> | ||
:Individual attacks are likely to be adjusted further before launch, so avoid listing off minor changes on character pages. Stuff like new animations are fine, though. Also, please sign your talk page entries with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:48, 10 August 2018 (EDT) | :Individual attacks are likely to be adjusted further before launch, so avoid listing off minor changes on character pages. Stuff like new animations are fine, though. Also, please sign your talk page entries with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:48, 10 August 2018 (EDT) | ||
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::Also started digging through revision histories and found [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Buff&diff=prev&oldid=1338775 this edit]. This same IP undid my revision that previously removed other opinionated statments about Pikachu as seen [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikachu_(SSBU)&diff=1338895&oldid=1338782 here], and the edit in the former link, along with the summary, is evident that this IP is exaggerating. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:58, February 2, 2020 (EST) | ::Also started digging through revision histories and found [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Buff&diff=prev&oldid=1338775 this edit]. This same IP undid my revision that previously removed other opinionated statments about Pikachu as seen [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikachu_(SSBU)&diff=1338895&oldid=1338782 here], and the edit in the former link, along with the summary, is evident that this IP is exaggerating. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 01:58, February 2, 2020 (EST) | ||
== Adding Neeroz to "Most historically significant players" == | |||
Neeroz's results have been excellent at offline majors as of late, including 7th at {{Trn|Ultimate WANTED 3}} and 13th at {{Trn|Temple: Hermes Edition}} with wins over {{Sm|Griffith}}, {{Sm|Ogey}}, {{Sm|Lancelot}}, {{Sm|Sintro}}, {{Sm|Dakpo}} and {{Sm|Flow}}. Enki by comparison hasn't done as well, falling short of top 64 at both events. Neeroz's recent results compete with/edge out Enki's best all-time results (being 17th at both {{Trn|Albion 4}} and {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}}) and certainly outperform him in the current return to offline era, so I was hoping to get him added to the 10 player list, possibly over Enki, Day, or Z, as well as naming him the best EU Pikachu. Please advise. [[User:TenebrousGenius|TenebrousGenius]] ([[User talk:TenebrousGenius|talk]]) 19:46, September 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Neeroz's results have been great as of late. That said, I do think it should be noted that this section isn't meant to be reflective of current results but instead results over the course of ultimate. On that note, prior to quarantine Neeroz had mixed results. Looking over the results on Smashgg, his most notable results appear to have been 4 seasons and stunfest. So at least there is some prequarantine results to go with the recent placements. I don't think Enki should be removed, as he's still been compiling some pretty decent results on the whole. If we did remove a player I'd favor either Day or Z. While they've both been pretty consistent across Ultimate, I can see a reason to remove them. Z has good results at majors but hasn't been the most active player. Meanwhile, Day has been more active but hasn't played in a supermajor (Granted Australia hasn't had one either). Curious to see what others think. [[User:Wiifitkid|Wiifitkid]] ([[User talk:Wiifitkid|talk]]) 20:14, September 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Echoing what WFK said, the sections are for players who are very likely going to have historical notability, ie performing very well for extended periods of time. That being said, I do think that Neeroz edges out Enki in that regard, since even though Enki has had some high highs, most of his results, even during his peak, haven't been that great. On the other hand, Neeroz has placed rather respectively since 2020, and ever since post-quarantine he's been blowing it out of the water. I do think Neeroz's achievements have surpassed Enki's especially since most of Enki's results are part of an earlier, less developed metagame, so in my opinion Neeroz should replace Enki. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:46, September 19, 2021 (EDT) | |||
== Replace Day with H4DS in historically significant players == | |||
Apologies, I am new, I should've come here first. Day has seemingly lacked recent tournament results, while H4DS has seen an upturn in results and has wins over top 100 players. Esam also called H4DS "the second best Pikachu in the States", and I could try and find the link to the video he did this in. | |||
Again, I apologise for any inconveniences I caused. | |||
[[User:ESaintx|ESaintx]] ([[User talk:ESaintx|talk]]) 12:26, July 9, 2022 (EDT) | |||
:Day should definitely be removed, especially since there should be no way Pikachu should be at the 10 player limit. I'd hold off on H4DS since most of his best results are regionally, and aside from Crown 2 his major results have been rather mediocre; I also don't think a player saying another player is good justifies the player being added to the section either. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 16:02, July 9, 2022 (EDT) | |||
Alright, I can agree with that. Most of his wins have been at regional tournaments. If he can carry form into national tournaments then it could be considered more. I'll hold off for now. [[User:ESaintx|ESaintx]] ([[User talk:ESaintx|talk]]) 05:52, July 10, 2022 (EDT) | |||