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== "#Characters" ==
== "#Characters" ==
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Release date in Germany is October 2nd in stores (October 3rd in e-Shop). (Source: [http://www.smashbros.com/de/]) [[User:Ar4093|Ar4093]] ([[User talk:Ar4093|talk]]) 11:38, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
Release date in Germany is October 2nd in stores (October 3rd in e-Shop). (Source: [http://www.smashbros.com/de/]) [[User:Ar4093|Ar4093]] ([[User talk:Ar4093|talk]]) 11:38, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
Did the Wii U version really come out Summer 2014 in Australia? [[Special:Contributions/73.41.152.18|73.41.152.18]] 20:31, 19 September 2014 (EDT)
:You probably shouldn't have bumped this old section. But yes, it will be coming out in Australian summer - which is American/European winter, of course. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Cloronic 20:33, 19 September 2014 (EDT)


== Some Surprises ==
== Some Surprises ==
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So? Why are you posting this on the talk page? And why didn't you sign? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 11:11, 15 August 2014 (EDT)
So? Why are you posting this on the talk page? And why didn't you sign? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 11:11, 15 August 2014 (EDT)
:Uh, I don't think he/she would have found that comment very helpful. You could've linked the IP to our [[SW:TALK|talk page policy]] and told him to sign his comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after every post. I don't think he broke any rules on the notice itself, but he did violate the talk page policy. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 13:34, 15 August 2014 (EDT)
:Uh, I don't think he/she would have found that comment very helpful. You could've linked the IP to our [[SW:TALK|talk page policy]] and told him to sign his comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after every post. I don't think he broke any rules on the notice itself, but he did violate the talk page policy. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 13:34, 15 August 2014 (EDT)
{| border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="margin:1em auto 1em auto; text-align:center"
|+'''Post DS release'''
|-
||{{Head|c=IceClimbers|g=SSBB|s=32px|l=Ice Climbers (SSBB)}}
||{{Head|c=Snake|g=SSBB|s=32px|l=Snake (SSBB)}}
||{{Head|c=Wolf|g=SSBB|s=32px|l=Wolf (SSBB)}}
||{{Head|c=PokemonTrainer|g=SSBB|s=32px|l=Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)}}*
||{{Head|c=Lucas|g=SSBB|s=32px|l=Lucas (SSBB)}}
|}
--[[Special:Contributions/130.102.158.19|130.102.158.19]] 20:29, 3 October 2014 (EDT)


==Title==
==Title==
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This has little to do with any current topics but I'd like to point out that Sakurai said that swimming was disabled for the demo, so swimming should still be in the game. Just pointed that out because the article said swimming is removed. :/ --[[Special:Contributions/67.1.208.112|67.1.208.112]] 00:15, 5 September 2014 (EDT)
This has little to do with any current topics but I'd like to point out that Sakurai said that swimming was disabled for the demo, so swimming should still be in the game. Just pointed that out because the article said swimming is removed. :/ --[[Special:Contributions/67.1.208.112|67.1.208.112]] 00:15, 5 September 2014 (EDT)
:Can you provide a source for that claim? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:19, 5 September 2014 (EDT)
:Can you provide a source for that claim? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:19, 5 September 2014 (EDT)
Just thought I'd mention you guys are still missing ROB in the veteran section. Otherwise it looks good [[Special:Contributions/75.63.61.83|75.63.61.83]] 12:58, 11 September 2014 (EDT)


== Final Game Info ==
== Final Game Info ==
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:Nice find, but those images are a bit small. I'm not asking that you find larger ones, but I think it'd be better for us to list and describe the palette swaps and provide the NintendoEverything page as a source. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 15:55, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
:Nice find, but those images are a bit small. I'm not asking that you find larger ones, but I think it'd be better for us to list and describe the palette swaps and provide the NintendoEverything page as a source. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 15:55, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah they're small, but I'd say we should have them over the images that are currently on the [[Palette swap (SSB4)]] page, especially since they are available in one individual image. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:57, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
::Yeah they're small, but I'd say we should have them over the images that are currently on the [[Palette swap (SSB4)]] page, especially since they are available in one individual image. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:57, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
:::Leave the images that are already on [[Palette swap (SSB4)]] as they are, but add these in addition to them. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:02, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
::::Someone on tumblr was able to get fairly high quality scans of the costume images and put them together in a single post. [http://fancifuldancingstar.tumblr.com/post/97155826153 images in question], I think these are high quality enough for the sake of the wiki, at least until we can get larger versions. Better to go with these rather than from the ones on nintendo everything.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 16:04, 10 September 2014 (EDT)
== Should we denote unlockable characters in bold, like in past games' articles? ==
The title says it all. Should we denote them (in the Smash 4 character table on the main article, the 3DS article, and the Wii U article) in bold? It's up to you guys. Thanks. =P [[User:Flight|Flight]] ([[User talk:Flight|talk]]) 22:59, 12 September 2014 (EDT)
== Mii Fighter is also unlockable ==
The Mii Fighter isn't in bold. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:86.92.255.223|86.92.255.223]] ([[User talk:86.92.255.223|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/86.92.255.223|contribs]]) 9:26 16 September 2014 (EDT)</small>
:No, they are not. :P {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 09:35, 16 September 2014 (EDT)
==Mariowiki vs Smashwiki==
Just saying, but MarioWiki has a better Smash 4 page than the Smash page! WHAT EVEN. [[mariowiki:Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U|THE MARIOWIKI SMASH 4 PAGE IS BETTER THAN THE SMASH 4 PAGE ON THE SMASH WIKI.]] <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:58.7.174.157|58.7.174.157]] ([[User talk:58.7.174.157|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/58.7.174.157|contribs]]) 08:36, 18 September 2014 (EDT)</small>
:It's not "better" just because it has a whole bunch of stuff on it that we have spread across multiple pages. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The SMASH-GINEER 10:12, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
::Yes, it is better because of the reason you just provided (how ironic that you provided a reason against yourself). <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:106.69.12.166|106.69.12.166]] ([[User talk:106.69.12.166|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/106.69.12.166|contribs]]) 23:16, 28 September 2014</small>
:::What he's trying to say is that Smashwiki has more information, but as Mariowiki doesn't have many Smash pages, people on MarioWiki have to condense the info to a few pages, making them bigger. Smashwiki, on the other hand, has all of the info split across many more pages, effectively making the pages smaller. And also, remember to sign your comments by putting four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) at the end of your post. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 23:27, 28 September 2014 (EDT)
==Stages==
If we have the information, couldn't we put the stage names in bold if they're unlockable just like the characters? It's just a thought. [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 12:39, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure if there ARE unlockable stages in the first place... [[Special:Contributions/31.48.26.98|31.48.26.98]] 03:26, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
:But what about Magnicant and Pac-Maze? Aren't those unlockable stages since they weren't viewable in the demo? [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 10:41, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
::Mah, nevermind. Seems as if my idea was put in. [[User:SmashBros|SmashBros]] ([[User talk:SmashBros|talk]]) 18:38, 1 October 2014 (EDT)
== Return of the results screen transition animations? ==
I'm not sure where in this article we could put it, but is it significant enough to note that the animations that transition from the end of the match to the results screen are in this game for the first time since the original? They're not highlighted in these videos, but you can see all of them. http://youtu.be/hGdOGAs-KSI http://youtu.be/lLKudTvW6x0 [[User:Nas160|<font color="black">'''Nas'''</font>]][[User talk:Nas160|<font color="FFCD00">'''160'''</font>]][[File:Pittsburgh Penguins 1992 logo.png|25px]] ''Let's go Pens!'' 17:10, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
== Citation Needed - DLC ==
The DLC section mentions that Sakurai didn't plan on DLC during the developing of the game, with a proper source.<br />
However, the second statement says that Sakurai might take DLC into consideration after the development, and "Citation Needed" had been added.<br />
This information is included in the source previously provided.<br />
''"That said, once finished, it's the type of thing we could take into consideration"''<br />
[[User:Liggliluff|Liggliluff]] ([[User talk:Liggliluff|talk]]) 19:00, 22 September 2014 (EDT)
== 3DS Stage Chart Layout? ==
Was wondering whether we could make the 3DS stage chart be 5 rows 7 columns to match up the number of columns with the Wii U stage chart and the character chart. Plus, I mapped it out, and the way it would be configured, there wouldn't be any series breaks, and with the empty space in the middle of the bottom row, the third-party stages would be grouped together on one side. What do you guys think? [[User:Kenniky|Kenniky]] ([[User talk:Kenniky|talk]]) 20:43, 23 September 2014 (EDT)
==Minor Typo==
Currently in the Trivia section, it claims that Peach's down special "apears" to still be random. This spelling error should be fixed to improve accuracy. [[User:Serensetti|Serensetti]] ([[User talk:Serensetti|talk]]) 09:49, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
== Developer in infobox ==
Could someone change Namco Bandai to Bandai Namco? That's what it's listed as in the game's copyright and on this site. --[[User:GastonRabbit|GastonRabbit]] ([[User talk:GastonRabbit|talk]]) 19:21, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
:I have edit privileges now, so never mind. --[[User:GastonRabbit|GastonRabbit]] ([[User talk:GastonRabbit|talk]]) 22:28, 2 October 2014 (EDT)
== Someone managed to find good renders of all the characters. ==
[http://imgur.com/a/0RQtP Here are all the renders.] Notice how they all have nice shadows. 
[http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2i98m0/high_quality_official_renders_of_all_alternate/ Here's where I found them.] <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:140.146.75.243|140.146.75.243]] ([[User talk:140.146.75.243|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/140.146.75.243|contribs]]) 11:48, 5 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:That's not bad but they have two issues - they're not transparent like the ones we currently have, and one of the Robin ones is missing (because they accidentally have a duplicate instead). I don't personally think we need them. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Riotous 11:51, 5 October 2014 (EDT)