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I thought it was pretty obvious... [[User:Lord-Sunday|Lord-Sunday]] ([[User talk:Lord-Sunday|talk]]) 02:40, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
I thought it was pretty obvious... [[User:Lord-Sunday|Lord-Sunday]] ([[User talk:Lord-Sunday|talk]]) 02:40, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Care for a serving of Level 6 Stew?
--[[User:Frodomar|Frodomar]] ([[User talk:Frodomar|talk]]) 13:10, 18 December 2015 (EST)


== Learning to "taunt-by-ducking" ==
== Learning to "taunt-by-ducking" ==
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8. They make you feel like the Angry Video Game Nerd.
8. They make you feel like the Angry Video Game Nerd.


Never be bothered by CPUs again. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.174.210.87|68.174.210.87]] ([[User talk:68.174.210.87|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.174.210.87|contribs]]) 17:32, 6 June 2012‎</small>
Never be bothered by CPUs again. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.174.210.87|68.174.210.87]] ([[User talk:68.174.210.87|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.174.210.87|contribs]]) 17:32, 6 June 2012</small>


:And nobody cared. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 12:34, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:And nobody cared. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 12:34, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
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:[[SW:TALK|Before you post something like that again, read this.]] [[User:Avengingbandit|'''''<font color="#00ff00">Avengingbandit</font>''''']] 16:39, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:[[SW:TALK|Before you post something like that again, read this.]] [[User:Avengingbandit|'''''<font color="#00ff00">Avengingbandit</font>''''']] 16:39, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
::I'd like to point out that AvengingBandit was the one here who handled this situation properly. RD and Dots: your comments were as unnecessary as the IP's, and in the future, link the IP to the appropriate policy or don't reply instead of adding more unnecessary discussion. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 16:57, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
::I'd like to point out that AvengingBandit was the one here who handled this situation properly. RD and Dots: your comments were as unnecessary as the IP's, and in the future, link the IP to the appropriate policy or don't reply instead of adding more unnecessary discussion. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 16:57, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
CPUs are the best opponents in Smash 4. I can give you several reasons:
1. Level 9 CPUs have perfect reactions.
2. Level 6 CPUs can make stew!
3. CPUs can effectively practice combos and edge guarding
4. They can also tech
5. They can activate hard to master moves easily at Level 6 7 8 and 9, such as Ryus inputed move sets
6. In Smash 4, they can charge up a attack on a stunned amiibo CPU or Player
7. They have good edge guarding skills in Smash 4
8. Level 9s can perfect shield almost anything you throw out at them!
9. They can air dodge attacking edge guarders in SSB4.
10. I can rarely beat a CPU above Level 7
11. Amiibo can learn from mistakes
12. Amiibo can beat CPUs!
CPUs + Amiibo > Typical Casual / Intermediate / For fun player.
==An Additional Flaw?==
==An Additional Flaw?==
Several times in the Mushroom Kingdom level in the original Smash Bros I have seen two opponents (on the same team) seemingly become stuck running into each other when I am standing a little left of the left pipe on the second floor. They shortly "unstick" themselves after a few seconds and continue to come after me. Is this another flaw or a glitch? Here are the details: there were two level 9 CPUs (Jigglypuff and Captain Falcon) on the red team while I was Link on the green team. They became stuck (after I moved to the position previously mentioned) a little right of the left pipe on the first floor. This has occurred a few times although not necessarily with Captain Falcon every time.  Oh and it was a 3-stock match with all items on. [[Special:Contributions/173.58.244.214|173.58.244.214]] 02:39, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
Several times in the Mushroom Kingdom level in the original Smash Bros I have seen two opponents (on the same team) seemingly become stuck running into each other when I am standing a little left of the left pipe on the second floor. They shortly "unstick" themselves after a few seconds and continue to come after me. Is this another flaw or a glitch? Here are the details: there were two level 9 CPUs (Jigglypuff and Captain Falcon) on the red team while I was Link on the green team. They became stuck (after I moved to the position previously mentioned) a little right of the left pipe on the first floor. This has occurred a few times although not necessarily with Captain Falcon every time.  Oh and it was a 3-stock match with all items on. [[Special:Contributions/173.58.244.214|173.58.244.214]] 02:39, 3 August 2013 (EDT)
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:Yeah, probably at least a See Also. I'll put that in. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 16:09, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah, probably at least a See Also. I'll put that in. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 16:09, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
::On a side note will there be anyone to try and study the Amiibo AI for flaws when the games come out? [[Special:Contributions/98.112.97.173|98.112.97.173]] 16:12, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
::On a side note will there be anyone to try and study the Amiibo AI for flaws when the games come out? [[Special:Contributions/98.112.97.173|98.112.97.173]] 16:12, 24 June 2014 (EDT)
==Smash 4 AI Flaws==
Let's start talking here about observed AI flaws in the new game (distinguishing between wiiU and 3ds of course) and demo.
For example-
:Tries to escape the air shooter (mega man's uair) with only air dodges (rather than moving from side to side) and often jumps while in it to a vertical KO. (3ds, demo) [[Special:Contributions/173.58.244.2|173.58.244.2]] 16:58, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
==Split==
The ''Flawed AI'' section alone is 73,460 bytes. I think we should split it into "Flawed AI (SSB)", Flawed AI (SSBM)", "Flawed AI (SSBB)", and "Flawed AI (SSB4)". It would make editing and organization easier, and I feel each subsection is large enough to warrant its own page. Thoughts? <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 20:27, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
<br>Another point; the 3DS subsection is incomplete, and we still have to do the Wii U subsection, so this section could reach 80,000 bytes. Now that could cause some problems. Thoughts? <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 22:15, 12 October 2014 (EDT)
:Maybe a separate Flawed AI page? [[User:The822man|The822man]] ([[User talk:The822man|talk]]) 16:48, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
::...that's kind of what I said in the first paragraph; if you suggest one page for flawed AI, I would say split the pages per game. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 16:50, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
i guess that would work if you did that. [[User:The822man|The822man]] ([[User talk:The822man|talk]]) 16:54, 13 October 2014 (EDT)
'''Support''' Per all that's been said in this section. '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|Now with lean,]] [[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|grass-fed angus!]] 17:44, 16 October 2014 (EDT)