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== Bowser? ==
== Bowser? ==
While a Bowser amiibo figurine hasn't been shown physically yet, gameplay in the trailer shows Bowser with the "FP" marker floating above him, which is indicative of an amiibo character. Here's a direct link- http://youtu.be/odUjMhc6YgU?t=2m22s
While a Bowser amiibo figurine hasn't been shown physically yet, gameplay in the trailer shows Bowser with the "FP" marker floating above him, which is indicative of an amiibo character. Here's a direct link- http://youtu.be/odUjMhc6YgU?t=2m22s
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I feel kinda stupid for asking this, espeically knowing how to use amiibo; just so you know this is NOT a rumor. :|
I feel kinda stupid for asking this, espeically knowing how to use amiibo; just so you know this is NOT a rumor. :|
It is possible to have multiple amiibo play in SSB4? If so, how does it work? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hylia's Eye|contribs]]) 21:41, 15 April 2015‎</small>
It is possible to have multiple amiibo play in SSB4? If so, how does it work? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hylia's Eye|contribs]]) 21:41, 15 April 2015</small>
:You scan them in at the CSS like you would add any other human or AI player. I'm not sure what you don't understand. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:19, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
:You scan them in at the CSS like you would add any other human or AI player. I'm not sure what you don't understand. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:19, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
::I mean, can you scan one and then scan another after the first one shows on the character select screen? [[User:Hylia&#39;s Eye|Hylia&#39;s Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia&#39;s Eye|talk]]) 15:55, 20 April 2015 (EDT)
::I mean, can you scan one and then scan another after the first one shows on the character select screen? [[User:Hylia&#39;s Eye|Hylia&#39;s Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia&#39;s Eye|talk]]) 15:55, 20 April 2015 (EDT)
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::What leak? How do we know it's not just a rumor some kid made up? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
::What leak? How do we know it's not just a rumor some kid made up? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 15:30, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Because we have a picture! http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Mario-Sunshine-in-Splatoon.jpg [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 16:38, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Because we have a picture! http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Mario-Sunshine-in-Splatoon.jpg [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 16:38, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
::::Okay, a couple of points I'd like to make:
::::#That's Mario, not Dr. Mario.
::::#The tweet where this picture was first shown with translated to "If only!"
::::#The wiki does not accept still images from an unofficial source as confirmation. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 16:48, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
:::::I said leaked, not confirmed. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 16:55, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
::::::Plus the exact same thing happened with the NES Zapper. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 16:57, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQNmdkkgS4&feature=youtu.be Just leaving this here, in case anyone still buys this leak.] [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:49, 7 June 2015 (EDT)


== Rarity ==
== Rarity ==
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We have the yarn Yoshi listed as working in Smash 4, and I can provide proof that the Super Mario amiibo work in YWW. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:49, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
We have the yarn Yoshi listed as working in Smash 4, and I can provide proof that the Super Mario amiibo work in YWW. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:49, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
:oh and because I know you'll ask: http://prntscr.com/79mbo7 It's not the best proof, ik, but again, they've confirmed all styles blah blah blah. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:52, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
:oh and because I know you'll ask: http://prntscr.com/79mbo7 It's not the best proof, ik, but again, they've confirmed all styles blah blah blah. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:52, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
== Duck Hunt and G&W ==
They were found in the coding. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 13:00, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
:Every character is programmed to have an amiibo menu. It's a safety net so that people won't have to update to use their amiibo. DLC characters, exempt. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 13:16, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
== No Falco in September ==
http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/lcmuji-eyH9hNhru1Ud1Yq9WXrh7XOps
Not only was Falco the one non-DLC amiibo announced today ''not'' shown in the "we're releasing in September" shot, but the page linked above gives his release as "This holiday" (ROB, G&W, Duck Hunt, and the Miis all say "September"). I don't think he's really part of the American wave 6. --[[Special:Contributions/24.17.78.180|24.17.78.180]] 19:26, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
:Yep, I was wrong. Good catch. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:36, 14 June 2015 (EDT)
== Falco and G&W ==
On the character lineup page on the official amiibo website, Falco and G&W are said to be scheduled for release in "June 2015" and don't have the "coming soon" note all other future amiibo do. Whether or not this is true, is it notable that the website is wrong? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:09, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
:I kind of get the impression that the amiibo page is rather sloppily updated whenever there's new announcements. I'm not sure it's notable in particular that there are errors or contradictory statements about stuff like this. That said, it would be a good thing if we could get a clearer picture of what's actually releasing when... [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:11, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
:If you click their images, it says their release dates are "This holiday" and "September" respectively. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:14, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
::That's what I thought (and again, I knew it wasn't true), but I wanted to know if we should note that the website has it listed incorrectly. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:17, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
== Super Mario Maker? ==
Can we not just add it with Wii Fit Trainer? We have definite confirmation of her. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  18:13, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
:Exactly. We didn't need a combatibility chart for Yoshi's Woolly World. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 18:21, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
== Skylanders amiibo ==
They function the exact same way as amiibo once the base is twisted, so I don't see the difference between them and normal amiibo. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 19:37, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
:I added it back because it's effectively a different style of amiibo once the base is twisted, like Super Mario/Yoshi's Woolly World/whatever example you want to use. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  19:41, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
== Skylanders and Mario Maker ==
We know ''for a fact'' that Wii Fit Trainer works with Mario Maker. They said it. We should have that listed.
The Skylanders they confirmed could be twisted to work exactly like amiibo. This seems to very clearly imply that ''they work exactly like amiibo''. Actually, no, it doesn't imply. It says it. Flat-out. They are just like normal Bowser/DK amiibo. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  20:51, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
:Yes. This stuff was flat-out confirmed in the Direct. So, what is the issue? '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:13, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
We don't need to mention Skylanders, since it's not compatible with the Smash amiibo. We should list Mario Maker though. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 11:46, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:Yes, but we ''do'' need to list the Skylanders series of amiibo (Bowser and Donkey Kong). The special Skylanders Bowser/DK function with Smash, although the Smash Bowser/DK do not function with Skylanders. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  12:01, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
Until we have specific confirmation that these have anything to do with Smash, we should hold off on reporting on them. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:50, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:They said that they work just like Bowser and DK amiibo when twisted. How is that not "specific confirmation"? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  12:52, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:And again, there's no reason to hide Mario Maker when we have specific confirmation (even more specific than Bowser/DK) that Wii Fit Trainer will work. The fact that Link/Luigi/Marth remain unclear is no reason to leave out ''official information''. Did you even watch these portions of the Digital Event...? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  12:53, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
::Yes, I watched it. While it's obviously ''implied'' that they will work, it is not ''confirmed'' that they will work. That distinction matters. I can't find any source on the amiibo or Skylanders websites showing their compatibility as an amiibo, nor can I find a list that outright says "so-and-so works in Super Mario Maker". I've been looking, too. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:56, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:::We don't need a full list, they specifically said (and showed) Wii Fit Trainer works (well, they didn't scan her in, but they showed her once she's been scanned in). I can understand leaving out Luigi/Link/Marth because they were unclear to if that was actually them functioning or just a way of showing what's next, but they actually said "amiibo like Wii Fit Trainer" will work in the game.
:::The Skylanders still seem stupid to me... they said they would work just like amiibo, so if we can include the Yarn Yoshis I don't see why we can't include them. But, at least it's a semi-logical reason. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  12:58, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
::::The Yarn Yoshi are listed because they're [http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/mHkLaov_d6ZmbbyvpSrw-6e-ZFmEC50O confirmed] compatible with Smash. As for WFT, that's why I had it sitting hidden there; I assume we'll get a more complete list on Super Mario Maker in the near future and it won't end up being much of a delay of information. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:05, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:::::But why make it a delay of information at all? And we had the Yarn Yoshi before they were confirmed, which is what I was referring to. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  13:07, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
::::::I was confirmed by an alternate source, NoE, I believe. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 13:09, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
:::::::Better to be late in reporting something than to be wrong. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:33, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
::::::::except ''we have official confirmation''. They specifically said WFT worked and showed her working. '''there is no way we will be wrong''', it's reporting something late for no reason at all. Encyclopedias take information ''and use it'', not ignore it because there's a 1/100 chance they might be wrong. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  13:35, 17 June 2015 (EDT)
== amiibo numbers in the series ==
In my area, instead of displaying age 6+ on the top-right of the box, it shows a number for each character. Mario is No. 1, Yoshi is No. 3, and Ness is No. 34. I'm not sure if it says this on any part of the box in other regions. Is it okay that when we learn every amiibo's number in the series, we put it in that order? 1-12 is Wave 1, 13-18 is Wave 2, 19-29 is Wave 3, 30-37 is Wave 4, and so on. --[[User:ComJacker|ComJay]] ([[User talk:ComJacker|talk]]) 07:29, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
:This is on the European boxes, yes. And I'm pretty sure that this was discussed and decided against, sorry. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 14:48, 8 July 2015 (EDT)
::Already discussed? I didn't notice. But for future reference, I listed them all on my User Page if you want to have a look. --[[User:ComJacker|ComJay]] ([[User talk:ComJacker|talk]]) 03:20, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
== Mewtwo amiibo prototype at SDCC ==
[https://twitter.com/amiiboalerts/status/619000778271780864 Here]. I don't know what we can do with this info, bu there it is. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 15:43, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
:We should probably wait for more sources before adding it. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 15:47, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
::Yeah. I personally think it's probably the real deal, but it wouldn't be out of the question to fake something like that if one were so inclined. Won't hurt to wait until we see official confirmation. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:55, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
== I'm sorry, but this is stupid ==
''Why can we not add Super Mario Maker''? We have videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW4kCY7pc4o, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzDu3P0iYI, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbeOoo3CPos), most notable of which is the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPDPSezEkcY DIGITAL EVENT] (which, although wasn't clear on Link/Luigi/Marth/Isabelle/etc., outright stated Wii Fit Trainer is compatible). Waiting for an official list is absolutely stupid when we already have video proof for these, and as per [[SW:NEWGAME]] (which, i know, was specifically for the SSB4 release, but it's still a nice guideline even if not official), that's perfectly usable. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  17:56, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
:I have to agree. We probably won't receive a full list for weeks, and we can't just ignore the title until then. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 18:32, 23 July 2015 (EDT)
I have to agree too it is stupid... also it seems that 80 or more amiibo will be compatible with Super Mario Maker...[[Special:Contributions/178.167.254.46|178.167.254.46]] 07:47, 24 July 2015 (EDT)
:What does everyone else think (particularly admin-types)? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  22:31, 25 July 2015 (EDT)
::...oh wait, admin-types added it. Okeydoke, I'm done here. :P <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  22:34, 25 July 2015 (EDT)