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The article mentions that Mewtwo was slated to appear in the first Smash Bros. but didn't. Is there a source to prove that? --[[User:Reversinator|Reversinator]] ([[User talk:Reversinator|talk]]) 11:23, 5 May 2011 (EDT) | The article mentions that Mewtwo was slated to appear in the first Smash Bros. but didn't. Is there a source to prove that? --[[User:Reversinator|Reversinator]] ([[User talk:Reversinator|talk]]) 11:23, 5 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
:I'd say the source would have been through some interviews with Masahiro Sakurai or possibly evidence from some cut game content.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | :I'd say the source would have been through some interviews with Masahiro Sakurai or possibly evidence from some cut game content.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 11:29, 5 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
☆トップの方の、「クッパ」「デデデ」「ミュウツー」などは、実はスマブラ開発中は登場予定だったのですが、諸処の事情でカットになってしまいました・・・。 [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html source] | ☆トップの方の、「クッパ」「デデデ」「ミュウツー」などは、実はスマブラ開発中は登場予定だったのですが、諸処の事情でカットになってしまいました・・・。 [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html source] | ||
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Palutena's trivia was obvious because the trophies specifically mention her as a Goddess, and no other character in the Smash franchise, bar Rosalina, can potentially even challenge this trivia point without going through a bunch of specifics. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 04:32, 8 August 2014 (EDT) | Palutena's trivia was obvious because the trophies specifically mention her as a Goddess, and no other character in the Smash franchise, bar Rosalina, can potentially even challenge this trivia point without going through a bunch of specifics. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 04:32, 8 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::Should we add that he was planned for all four games but only appeared in melee due to either disk space or hardware limitations? [[User:1blitzer1|rycbar123]] ([[User talk:1blitzer1|talk]]) 20:00, 4 November 2014 (EST) | |||
==Mewtwo may still be in SSB4== | |||
There's a rumor going around that Mewtwo is still in the works as a playable character and will be made available at a later time (presumably after the Wii U version comes out). I would also like to point out that this was being said by the exact same person that leaked the official roster for the 3DS (which turned out to be real) and got in trouble with Nintendo for it. That being said, I think any claims that Mewtwo is not going to be playable in SSB4 should not be mentioned unless it is absolutely proven or officially confirmed that this is the case. I'm not saying we should list rumors or anything, but with this one going around I also don't think we should be claiming that Mewtwo is officially "not a playable character" in SSB4 if we don't really know if that's going to be true or not. --[[Special:Contributions/66.41.203.168|66.41.203.168]] 22:45, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:That doesn't mean you're allowed to repeatedly removing content as it violates [[SW:1RV]]. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 23:06, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
::Then don't put it there in the first place. What if what I've heard turns out to be true? Then you'd '''have''' to change it, cause by then you'll probably be feeling foolish for jumping the gun on Mewtwo not being playable simply because he wasn't available at the time the 3DS version came out. --[[Special:Contributions/66.41.203.168|66.41.203.168]] 23:22, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::Either way, per [[SW:NEWGAME]], we can't claim that rumor is true either, as it can easily be falsified. It's best to leave the page as it is. If and when the rumor does become true, the page will be changed. [[User:Roarmoocowz|Roarmoocowz]] ([[User talk:Roarmoocowz|talk]]) 23:29, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::But anyway I didn't add that, someone else did. (pun not intended) [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me 23:34, 16 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
You're talking about the rumour where the leaker posted an image and then stated five characters (including Mewtwo) were for DLC as the image's caption, right? If so, that text has been confirmed false, as an intentional attempt by the leaker to identify copycats. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Wacko 00:01, 17 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
I'm just going to note: The IP is not the only one who broke 1RV. The rule clearly states that an edit should not be reverted if it is in violation of this policy. This happened twice (and once by the IP). <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 01:15, 17 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
When you unlock the final character, the game says that all characters are now usable, and when we see the lack of Mewtwo on the character select screen, it's a pretty safe bet that he is not playable. | |||
''What if what I've heard turns out to be true? Then you'd '''have''' to change it, cause by then you'll probably be feeling foolish for jumping the gun on Mewtwo not being playable...'' | |||
If what you say is true, then I suppose we'd have to admit we're wrong and, yes, change it; however, there isn't anything to feel "foolish" over new information being released. What if our estimation of him not being playable, as we can already see, turns out to be true? Then you'd '''have''' to leave it, cause by then you'll probably be feeling foolish for jumping the gun on Mewtwo being playable simply because you listen to baseless rumors and hearsay that say he will be playable, and are in denial that he hasn't returned. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 01:39, 17 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
I just thought I'd come and weigh in on this. If Mewtwo does become playable at some point down the line, then yeah, we'll change the article appropriately, but until then, we just say what we know for the time being, which is that he isn't playable (at the moment) and that he's just a trophy. - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 08:51, 17 September 2014 (EDT) | |||
Well, I hate to say "I told you so!", but I did. --[[Special:Contributions/66.41.203.168|66.41.203.168]] 20:46, 23 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
:You're right for the wrong reason. While Mewtwo did return, as Toomai said, those rumors you said were proven false as admitted by the leaker. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 02:03, 24 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
== "Smash Bros. appearances" not displaying SSB4? == | |||
I'm looking at Mewtwo's infobox and I'm not seeing SSB4 below Melee nor can I add it. Is it supposed to do that until Mewtwo is released or something? [[User:Magiciandude|Magiciandude]] ([[User talk:Magiciandude|talk]]) 12:31, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | |||
:Fixed. The edit has to be made on the [[Template:Infobox Character General|infobox page]] itself. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 18:14, 6 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== Should it be in the DLC category? == | |||
As per recent changes. I honestly think it should. Thoughts? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 16:51, 15 December 2014 (EST) | |||
== stone edge == | |||
in the trophy in brawl, it's using stone edge. can we add that? i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 18:09, 3 March 2015 (EST) | |||
:Floating rocks ≠ Stone Edge the move. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:16, 3 March 2015 (EST) | |||
:: really? search it up on bulbapedia. stone edge is an attack that makes stones float. you've never even played pokemon. my boldore used to know stone edge and whenever she used it, there were floating stones i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 10:15, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::Approximately 50% of all rock-type attacks involve chucking stones at the target. Your opinion is unfounded. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 10:41, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::''Trying to sound like a smartass'' Actually, 68.75% (11/16) of all Rock-type moves fling and/or shoot rocks at the opponent, three of which Mewtwo can learn. However, of these moves the only one that visually looks like the rocks in Mewtwo's trophy is Stone Edge. That being said, I think it's more likely that it was just showing off his power, as Mewtwo cannot naturally learn the move or any rock type moves for that manner. It would make sense since many times in the Pokemon anime have Psychic types lifted rocks to show off their power. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 12:07, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::Yea, according to [[bulbapedia:Mewtwo (Pokémon)#Learnset|Bulbapedia]], Mewtwo can't learn Stone Edge at ''all'', be it leveling up, breeding, tutoring, or HM/TMs. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 12:16, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::Stone Edge has an animation that resembles floating stones in certain games (The gen 6 games do not, however. The anime animation also isn't canon.), the description doesn't specifically mention this, but rather that the opponent is being "stabbed" with sharp stones. The fact that the move uses the Attack stat and the fact that many pokemon not capable of telekinesis can learn the move, it seems more likely that the user is simply picking up sharp stones and stabbing the opponent manually. Either way, I think Laikue has the right idea; it's simply Mewtwos power causing the surrounding terrain to break apart. This is something you see in a lot of media, not just Pokemon. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:20, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::Erm, look again, Aidan. Mewtwo learns Stone Edge via TM71. That said, I don't think it merits a mention on the page. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac|talk]]) 12:22, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::::Mewtwo is using Psychic to control some nearby rocks, mystery solved, moving on. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 22:12, 12 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::::: mewtwo is clearly using stone edge. the rocks are the ones from stone edge. there are times when pokemon are using moves they can't even learn, such as the time when bulbasaur used whirlwind. there was also a time when typhlosion used tackle. Therefore, mewtwo is using stone edge. i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 12:05, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::You're entitled to think so yourself, but without more definite say-so from an official source this page will not report it as such. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:08, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::those floating stones are the EXACT same ones used in stone edge so clearly mewtwo is using stone edge. i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 21:02, 25 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Two Mewtwo in SSB4? == | |||
Thought about this for a while... | |||
Do you think it's possible that both "genders" of Mewtwo will appear in SSB4? Not trying to spread rumors or anything; it just occurred to me that Mewtwo (aside from its recent and upcoming trophies) has another trophy that shows both of its Mega Forms (which itself was even displayed in the 50-Fact Extravaganza). | |||
Spread the love of Mewtwo! :D [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]]) 14:53, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Essentially, we don't know yet. The Mewtwo model we were shown loosely resembles the first movie Mewtwo design which appeared in Melee, but the differences are minimal. We should be sure to keep the Mewtwo-related information factual as opposed to speculative, as there's a lot we still don't know about its DLC appearance and shouldn't be guessing at. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:00, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:I'm aware that there's no official information at the moment. I possibly guessed at it, but like I said, I not trying to spread anything that isn't true. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]]) 16:08, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
P.S. By the way, did the 50 FE ever mention Mewtwo's official download date (let alone registering before the 31st)? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hylia's Eye|contribs]]) 16:08, 13 March 2015</small> | |||
:No it did not, just the general timeframe of "spring 2015", which could be anytime from tomorrow through mid-June. And even then, SSB3DS was initially promised a summer 2014 release date and even in Japan that ended up meaning September, so I wouldn't expect it to be too soon. (Also, please remember to sign talk page posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:41, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::If anything, we'd be getting [[bulbapedia::File:150Mewtwo-Mega X.png|Mega Mewtwo X]] as a Final Smash, considering how M2X is not only Psychic, but also Fighting (that, and the design for [[bulbapedia::File:150Mewtwo-Mega Y.png|the design for M2Y]] seems a bit...wonky for Smash) [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 19:07, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::I think Mega Y is more likely, because it is the more popular (being featured in a movie, for one thing), much like Charizard X. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 20:34, 13 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Wonky?...You mean "Worky?" Typo. :P[[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]]) 18:42, 26 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::Wonky is a word. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 20:20, 26 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::and worky isn't <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 21:16, 26 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
mewtwo is genderless i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 12:07, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Mewtwo's species == | |||
Its species is actually Genetic, not Mewtwo. --[[Special:Contributions/66.75.68.110|66.75.68.110]] 00:08, 27 March 2015 (EDT) | |||
:This brings up an interesting question. Should we be labeling the Pokemon species as the name of the Pokemon, or as the Pokedex species? Genetic Pokemon, Mouse Pokemon, Balloon Pokemon, ect. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 13:23, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
::The Pokedex "species" label is not the same thing. These rows should be the same as the article title ("Mewtwo") or, frankly, just "Pokemon". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:39, 3 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::the species is NOT the name of the pokemon! when will ANYONE understand!? i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 21:00, 25 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::I agree that species should be "Pokémon" for all Pokémon and not their names. May I change these? [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 21:40, 25 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
::::Although it would sound generic, I feel like "Pokémon" itself is a species name so we could do that instead since they're '''all''' considered "Pokémon" anyways. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wii U 22:11, 25 July 2015 (EDT) | |||
:::::mewtwo's is genetic, charizard's is flame, and so on. and i'm leaving NIWA. stop torturing [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|explain the torture to me, you two!]]) 16:33, 8 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Artificially Created == | |||
Should we mention that it, alongside Snake were Artificially created in their trivia sections? [[User:AgedofallStrings|AgedofallStrings]] ([[User talk:AgedofallStrings|talk]]) 20:59, March 29, 2021 (EDT) | |||