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I'd like to propose amending this to make it so that behavior on the SmashWiki IRC counts as SmashWiki behavior; i.e., PAs and other ban-worthy behavior there affect a user's status on the wiki itself. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | I'd like to propose amending this to make it so that behavior on the SmashWiki IRC counts as SmashWiki behavior; i.e., PAs and other ban-worthy behavior there affect a user's status on the wiki itself. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:39, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Am I banned forever? No, I am not impatient (I can always go to #dk), just asking.--<choose><option>'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span>]][[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:orange">S</span>]][[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:red">I</span>]][[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]'''''</span></option> | Am I banned forever? No, I am not impatient (I can always go to #dk), just asking.--<choose><option>'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span>]][[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:orange">S</span>]][[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:red">I</span>]][[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]'''''</span></option> | ||
<option>'''''<font color="#00006E">[[User:PSIWolf|P]]<font color="#0000A5">[[User talk:PSIWolf|S]]<font color="#0000DC">[[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|I]]<font color="#0000FF">W<font color="royalblue">o<font color="dodgerblue">l<font color="skyblue">f'''''</option> | <option>'''''<font color="#00006E">[[User:PSIWolf|P]]</font><font color="#0000A5">[[User talk:PSIWolf|S]]</font><font color="#0000DC">[[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|I]]</font><font color="#0000FF">W</font><font color="royalblue">o</font><font color="dodgerblue">l</font><font color="skyblue">f</font>'''''</option> | ||
</choose>13:30, 7 July 2011 (EDT) | </choose>13:30, 7 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:No, I'll never hand out a permaban for a first time offense for a normally good faith user. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:49, 7 July 2011 (EDT) | :No, I'll never hand out a permaban for a first time offense for a normally good faith user. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:49, 7 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
==Anon's ruleset proposal== | ==Anon's ruleset proposal== | ||
Bump. I am changing this to an official proposal. Should IRC Guidlines be changed to official rules? After a discussion [http://mibpaste.com/RnL1Ny here], I discovered that the current regulations are technically guidelines and therefore not strict rules. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:02, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | <s>Bump. I am changing this to an official proposal. Should IRC Guidlines be changed to official rules? After a discussion [http://mibpaste.com/RnL1Ny here], I discovered that the current regulations are technically guidelines and therefore not strict rules. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:02, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:Problem, what are in the guidelines are written to be guidelines, and not written in ways to be rules. Example, how could '''"Many users idle on the IRC - that is, while they are connected, they aren't actively paying attention. Do not expect an immediate reply to a query."''' be a rule? You will need a proposal of actual rules instead of just changing the guidelines we have now to rules. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:12, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | :Problem, what are in the guidelines are written to be guidelines, and not written in ways to be rules. Example, how could '''"Many users idle on the IRC - that is, while they are connected, they aren't actively paying attention. Do not expect an immediate reply to a query."''' be a rule? You will need a proposal of actual rules instead of just changing the guidelines we have now to rules. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:12, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Good point, but things like that only need to be slightly changed. Here is what an actual ruleset would resemble (note that this is more of a sketch then a final rulesheet). | ::Good point, but things like that only need to be slightly changed. Here is what an actual ruleset would resemble (note that this is more of a sketch then a final rulesheet). | ||
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#Excessive pinging is prohibited. | #Excessive pinging is prohibited. | ||
#If a moderator chooses to end a discussion, their decision is final. Any problems with a Moderator's judgement should be discussed with them privately. | #If a moderator chooses to end a discussion, their decision is final. Any problems with a Moderator's judgement should be discussed with them privately. | ||
#If multiple users find your behavior irritating - for example, imitating a user - then a moderator has the right to ask you to stop. Ignoring them can lead to future warnings. | |||
#Mods essentially must follow similar guidelines to [[SW:ADMIN]]. In other words, no using moderator powers for personal reasons, no excessive joke kicks/bans, etc. If a user has a concern with a way the moderator is acting, they should bring it up with them in a polite, private manner. If a user has a concern about a rule violation that occured when a mod was not around, they should keep a log of it and report it. | |||
====Guidelines==== | |||
All current guidelines (that have not been turned into rules) still apply here. | |||
[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:25, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:25, 13 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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:'''Support''' well honestly IRC is pretty important to talk to others anyway, and wiki is... responsible i guess[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Try'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''to''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] [[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 11:54, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | :'''Support''' well honestly IRC is pretty important to talk to others anyway, and wiki is... responsible i guess[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">''Lucas-IV- '']]</span> [[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''Try'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''to''']] [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|''Talk'']] [[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 11:54, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:'''Support''' [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 13:30, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | :'''Support''' [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 13:30, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:'''Oppose''': Simply put, OT's is better. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:03, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | :'''Oppose''': Simply put, OT's is better. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:03, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:'''Support''' While I like OT's, Anon's is less strict.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 15:01, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | :'''Support''' While I like OT's, Anon's is less strict.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 15:01, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Please read more carefully, as the opposite is actually true. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 17:56, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ::Please read more carefully, as the opposite is actually true. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 17:56, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:'''Strong Oppose''' Ruleset is too simplistic, is written in a mediocre manner, leaves out guidelines and moderator rules, leaves out many other needed rules, and assumes IRC to be SmashWiki, which as I pointed out before, is not true. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | :'''Strong Oppose''' Ruleset is too simplistic, is written in a mediocre manner, leaves out guidelines and moderator rules, leaves out many other needed rules, and assumes IRC to be SmashWiki, which as I pointed out before, is not true. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:04, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
</s> | |||
I have decided to drop my current ruleset due to negotiations on IRC with Omega Tyrant. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 21:27, 21 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Alternate ruleset proposal== | ==Alternate ruleset proposal== | ||
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Here are rules that all users on the chatroom must follow. | Here are rules that all users on the chatroom must follow. | ||
*Do not use the SmashWiki's IRC channel to personal attack or harass another user. Remember however, being called out for less than stellar behavior (such as someone calling | *Do not use the SmashWiki's IRC channel to personal attack or harass another user. Remember however, being called out for less than stellar behavior (such as someone calling your behavior idiotic after displaying behavior deserving of such), or being argued with for an argument you're a clear part of, do not constitute as being personally attacked or harassed. For what constitutes as a personal attack, read [[SW:NPA#What is considered a personal attack?|this]]. | ||
**Likewise to the above, do not provoke or "bait" another user to PA, harass, or troll you. | **Likewise to the above, do not provoke or "bait" another user to PA, harass, or troll you. | ||
*While imitating other users can be allowed, you are expected to drop an imitation act if told to by a moderator, and continuing imitating a user in the chatroom after they asked you to stop will be considered harassment. | *While imitating other users can be allowed, you are expected to drop an imitation act if told to by a moderator, and continuing imitating a user in the chatroom after they asked you to stop will be considered harassment. | ||
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===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#'''Support''', these rules seem lenient enough.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | #'''Support''', these rules seem lenient enough.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 10:11, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
#Yup. '''Support'''.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:14, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | #Yup. '''Support'''.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:14, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
#Seems fine to me. No more spamming the channel though for the fun of it... :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:27, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | #Seems fine to me. No more spamming the channel though for the fun of it... :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:27, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
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#'''Support''' '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:03, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | #'''Support''' '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#000000>D<font color=#003700>o<font color=#006E00>c<font color=#00A500>t<font color=#00DC00>o<font color=#00FF00>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 12:03, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
#'''Support''' Same as Lucas-IV [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:44, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | #'''Support''' Same as Lucas-IV [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:44, 16 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
#Sorry Anon, OT is winning me over with his incomparable debate skills.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 18:38, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
#'''Support''' - it's logical in an unorthodox way, which is always a good way for a ruleset to be. --[[User:Piratehunter|<span style="font-family:times new roman; font-size:12pt"><font color="Black">Pιʀaτзнυητзʀ</font></span>]] ([[User talk:Piratehunter|Talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/Piratehunter|Contribs]]) 18:51, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
#'''Big support, and when I mean big, I mean <big>HUGE!</big>''' His lecture interests me, even though it's long. I must say those are interesting changes. Per everyone above me, especially Omega Tyrant, who made this idea. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 18:30, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
#'''Support''' Good policy. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:11, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
#'''Support''' The same as Anon. It's a good policy. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 13:17, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
#I'm probably a bit late, but '''Support'''. [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CaptainFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 04:26, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
===Opposes=== | ===Opposes=== | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
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::You are not really including all forms of Personal attacks. You are really redefining the term. A Personal Attack is exactly what it sounds like - an attack on the person itself. As I said, there is a very large difference between "you are acting like an idiot" and "you are an idiot". I do not think you realize that, OT. | ::You are not really including all forms of Personal attacks. You are really redefining the term. A Personal Attack is exactly what it sounds like - an attack on the person itself. As I said, there is a very large difference between "you are acting like an idiot" and "you are an idiot". I do not think you realize that, OT. | ||
::As for the Doc/PH argument, you never told me you had warned PH also. From our conversations on IRC, it seemed like you were letting PH go unwarned for his behavior. That said, I appologise, but my oppinion on "person ''comments''" (if that is the term you would prefer), then my point stands. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 10:58, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ::As for the Doc/PH argument, you never told me you had warned PH also. From our conversations on IRC, it seemed like you were letting PH go unwarned for his behavior. That said, I appologise, but my oppinion on "person ''comments''" (if that is the term you would prefer), then my point stands. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 10:58, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::Very well then, I'll revise the PA rule. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:56, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::However, I will stand by my point that calling someone an "idiot" is not necessarily a personal attack, especially if you read the section linked to in the personal attack rule. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:15, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::It's better, but still not exactly clear. I'm moving my vote to neutral, but I still repeat that there is a difference between saying "You're being an idiot" and "You are an idiot" that I am not sure you understand. I think one should be considered a personal attack while the other is merely a behavioral rule (I believe this has been an unwritten rule on the wiki for quite some time as well) [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 18:54, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::::List one user who has been recently warned or blocked for calling a user and idiot or something of the like. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="red">Do<font color="orangered">c<font color="darkorange">t<font color="orange">o<font color="gold">rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>99</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 18:56, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::::What's not clear about it? It says do not use IRC to personal attack or harass, provides a small example of something that is not a personal attack or harassment, and provides a link to what can be considered personal attacks. Yours on the other hand, just says no personal attacks and fallaciously threatens that IRC behavior will be held against you on Wiki. Quite honestly, my NPA rule is clearer than yours. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:17, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::::Omega Tyrant, you wanted a suggestion for a rule change, here is one. Can you please at least read my suggestion? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 09:39, 19 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::::::I already told you I do not see the problem with the NPA rule how it is currently written. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:38, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::::::You didn't address my point though. I said that there was a clear difference between saying "you are an idiot" and "you are being an idiot" that I do not think you understand. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:01, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::::::::Your point is irrelevant, as I changed the wording you initially had such a large problem with (the rule references your behavior being called idiotic, not you being called an idiot), which you apparently did not read when I made the revision earlier. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:07, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::::::::Ah, my mistake. I appologize. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:10, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
Since this policy has almost unanimous support, I move for this to be ''passed''. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 13:51, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I'll give it til the end of the day, in case anyone has a serious opposition. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:29, 22 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
::I've gone ahead and copy-pasted the policy onto the page, as the deadline has passed. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 12:19, 23 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Operating system question. == | == Operating system question. == | ||
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::And the IRC need more rules than a vague "No personal attacks" rule. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:37, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ::And the IRC need more rules than a vague "No personal attacks" rule. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:37, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::Is there a problem you see with SW:NPA? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 11:00, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | :::Is there a problem you see with SW:NPA? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 11:00, 17 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::SW:NPA is written for a Wiki, not for a chatroom. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:18, 18 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
==If I may take a moment and just say== | |||
a) You guys take this too seriously seeing as there's less than fifteen people that have used this thing more than once, and only about ten different people voted. As opposed to the browser poll got like >50 votes. :O.<br> | |||
c) The two rulesets are too similar except to the point where Tyrant gave more rules out of other, less minor concerns. So are more rules > less rules?<br> | |||
∆) OT, with your ruleset, the topics wouldn't be fun anymore O_O.<br> | |||
Note: knowing myself this whole response can be completely off/I'm missing something, kindly point it out if I am. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 16:46, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:I agree....mostly. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:Lucas.png|15px]] PK AWESOME! 16:48, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:A) People complain about lack of ruleset, and I do not agree with Anon's ruleset, so I created my own. I believe mine is superior enough to where I will argue as needed. A ruleset is also something to not be taken lightly. | |||
:B) My ruleset forbids specific actions, where Anon's just throws on a lazy blanket rule that can punish innocent users while letting guilty users go away innocent, as well as having arbitrary means of enforcement. | |||
:C) Topic rule only bans moderators from using the topic to advertise/promote something of theirs or a friend's. Topics can still be senseless crap they usually are. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:13, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== After all this is done... == | |||
...archiving will be neccesary. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:Lucas.png|15px]] PK AWESOME! 19:39, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Per. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 21:03, 20 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Uh...O_0 == | |||
Dodo linked this → '''[redacted]''' <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>OVER 2000(Edits)!!!! 22:56, 31 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
:This is almost too much nonsense for me to ignore so i'll just point out your blatant hypocracy. | |||
'''Note''' Shinything is BlindColours at the time. | |||
<Shinything> R U HUNGRY | |||
<Ivy73> Yeah, kinda | |||
<pH-X|busy> Yeah | |||
<pH-X|busy> use ignore lol | |||
<Dodo> INCREDIBLY HUNGRY | |||
<RoyboyX> Oh god PH | |||
<RoyboyX> Did you see MG | |||
<Shinything> OKAY IVY... '''[redacted]''' | |||
<Ivy73> Dude, I just went there | |||
<Dodo> why? | |||
That is only part of the log i have saved.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 23:06, 31 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
: Does that really violate the current ruleset, by the way? Harrassment? <sup>Smiddle </sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 06:56, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
What's inside it? (*too scared too open weird looking links)-->[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">>:D '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']][[User: Lucasthefourth/Challenge|''PK'']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''Love''']][[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 08:03, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:You don't need to know, okay? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>OVER 2000(Edits)!!!! 09:17, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::I actually didn't realize something: the current rules say nothing about linking to inappropriate sites. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:05, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
Well it's a good thing we have common sense then. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 13:18, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
I don't think the word "unintentionally" is needed; you might as well use that word on every rule. Additionally, what's intentional and what's not can be very unclear and hard to determine at times. <sup>Smiddle </sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 17:41, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Intentionally is there, as there is the distinct possibility of someone accidentally linking to such a site, such as someone's copy and paste not working properly, where they went to link another site, and instead accidentally linked a porn site and pressed enter before they noticed. For determining if it was intentional or not, simply if someone was to link accidentally, they would surely immediately apologise or something of the sort. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:50, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::I see. <sup>Smiddle </sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 17:52, 1 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
== IRC a problem (lol I fail at puns) == | |||
I am trying to get into the IRC, but it won't go there. If I attempt to do it in a new tab, all that comes up is a blank page. So, is the IRC only accessible to users? Or is it just my browser (which happens to be Google Chrome)? --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:26, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Try [[Special:Webchat]]. I'm using it [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 07:45, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::That works. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:59, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::Next time, use it if you wanted to talk at the IRC [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 08:22, 12 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Private chat? == | |||
Can I use private chat ob Special:Webchat? If I can, how? [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 09:30, 18 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Right click on someone's name on the right tab, and among the options, there will be a private chat option. Click this option, and a tab with the user's name will appear at top, which you can then chat with another user privately from there. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:34, 18 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Alright, I guess I'll try it next time [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 09:48, 18 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::Is private chat written "PM" in Special:Webchat? [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 09:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:::Yes, '''P'''ersonal '''M'''essage.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 09:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::::'K, thanks a lot Wolf [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 09:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Yo == | |||
Shouldn't I be unbanned now?--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 06:02, 26 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
:Aren't you? Yesterday I checked to see if Toomai or Mega took care of it, and entering the unban commmand for your name came up with nothing. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:17, 26 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
::[14:31] [INFO] You are banned from this channel.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 08:31, 26 August 2011 (EDT) | |||