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 Do we have a specific preference between US-style standards of spelling (i.e. color, maneuver) and UK-style standards (i.e. colour, maneouvre)? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:01, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
 :I think we just do whatever, and you're not supposed to make an edit that only includes changing those things. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 19:05, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
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 Why is it that links such as <nowiki>[[grab|grabbing]]</nowiki> are considered "less efficient" than <nowiki>[[grab]]bing</nowiki>? Edits to change this are completely pointless and unnecessary. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:45, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
 :...I did a edit like that. So are you saying I'm doing pointless stuff?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:green">The</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">best!</span>]]''' 10:59, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
-::Basically a lot of users will view it as pointless due to both of the links will link to the same page and will both look the same when not editing, the only postive it has is to save a couple of bits. At the moment though it is not considered pointless due to that being the correct way to link in the Manual of Style.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 11:09, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
+::Basically a lot of users will view it as pointless due to both of the links will link to the same page and will both look the same when not editing, the only postive it has is to save a couple of bits. At the moment though it is not considered pointless due to that being the correct way to link in the Manual of Style.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 11:09, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
 :::That does not answer my question on why one form of linking is considered "more efficient" than the other, as both ways of linking appear exactly the same on the page people view. Just because it is currently in the manual of style does not mean it is automatically correct. And yes Wolf Rulez, I'm saying all edits that only change one form of linking to the other is unnecessary and adds nothing to the page, therefore such edits are pointless. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:32, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
-::::I was actually answering Wolf Rulez's question, hence why it doesn't answer yours and why it is spaced under Wolf's comment.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 11:37, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
+::::I was actually answering Wolf Rulez's question, hence why it doesn't answer yours and why it is spaced under Wolf's comment.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 11:37, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
 Suffix links make things easier to read and harder to spell wrong for the editor, have no effect on the reader, and are (most likely) no more expensive to process than piped links; Wikipedia [[wikipedia:WP:LINK#Piped Links|sums it up]] with "This is easier to type and clearer to read in the source text." While I can agree that you probably shouldn't devote a single edit to changing piped links to suffix links, they appear have no downsides whatsoever. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Chilled 12:15, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
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 #See Toomai's: To elaborate, canceling is a gerund. It can be used as both a noun or a verb. ''M2K practices L-canceling // Did you see M2K L-canceling in that vid?'' [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 12:42, 21 May 2014 (EDT)
 ::For some reason, I thought gerunds were used as verbs or ''adjectives'', but my dictionary says it's nouns. Still, I believe gerunds should only be used as a noun form if it doesn't already have a noun form (e.g. cancellation), but that's just my opinion. I guess it doesn't matter. {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Red]] 10:10, 22 May 2014 (EDT)
+==Pokémon Gender==
+The discussion above wasn't really finished, wasn't it? Anyways, I would like to improve this line:<br>
+"All Pokémon should be treated as gender-neutral."<br>
+Here's my only problem with that line: Pokémon that only have one gender, such as [[Chansey]]. Here's what I'm thinking of changing the line to:<br>
+"All Pokémon should be treated as gender-neutral, ''unless the Pokémon can only be one gender, in which in that case the Pokémon can be referred to as that gender''".<br>
+As I said, the previous discussion above doesn't appear finished and this line is in a somewhat debatable state. Thoughts? <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 16:07, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
+:There's no particular reason to make this change. In addition to the fact that it would create inconsistency across different Pokemon pages, it contradicts how the games themselves refer to the Pokemon. For example, Chansey's Melee trophy uses "it" even while discussing the 100% female nature of the species. Aside from [[Event 25: The Aura Is With Me|rare goofs]], this is highly consistent across official sources. (If that wasn't enough, Bulbapedia also changed its policy to strictly using "it" for species, restricting "him"/"her" for individual Pokemon with known genders.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:36, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
+== About metric ==
+I think that we should replace the bullet point in the "American or non-American English" section on "don't edit to change units" with a new top-level bullet point something like this:
+::*''As the ''Smash Bros.'' series was developed in Japan, all its underlying data is coded in metric units. Therefore, when referring to in-game measurements, always use metric first, followed by an imperial measurement if necessary.''
+::**''Example: Hit Sandbag '''1000m (3280 ft.)''' or more in Home-Run Contest.''
+::**''Exception: If a trophy description is different between NTSC and PAL regions (and the measurement units are not the only difference), use only whatever units are appropriate.''
+Thoughts? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Riotous 13:52, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
+:Just to keep consistency, I will '''support''' this. It'll take work to change all the measurements though. <font face="sand">''[[User:Qwerty|<font color="black">Qw</font><font color="003F3F">er</font><font color="005F5F">ty</font>]] ''[[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="005F6F">(t</font><font color="003C6F">al</font><font color="000F7F">k)</font>]]</font> 13:55, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
+::I '''support''' this, since most of the world uses metric (in fact, the US is the only country to ''not'' use it). <span style="background-color:orange;border:2px solid blue;border-radius:7px;">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:yellow">'''Rtzxy'''</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:brown">'''''Reflect!!!'''</span>]]</span> 14:01, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
+Bumping this. Would like to codify soon. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Glow 00:32, 29 November 2014 (EST)
+:One month and no dissent; putting in. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Glow 23:11, 3 December 2014 (EST)