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It's come to my attention that we have articles on games that have been lingering here for a while and need to be eliminated. Examples: [[Super Mario 64]], [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Star Fox: Assault]]. To be honest, these articles, in terms of giving information, are useless. If a character has a move that comes from a game, then that's what should be mentioned in said character's article. If a character appears in Brawl or Melee as a trophy, then the article is thus useless and should not have ever existed. We've been over this with trophy articles (surprisingly, some of them are still here). | It's come to my attention that we have articles on games that have been lingering here for a while and need to be eliminated. Examples: [[Super Mario 64]], [[Super Mario Sunshine]], [[Star Fox: Assault]]. To be honest, these articles, in terms of giving information, are useless. If a character has a move that comes from a game, then that's what should be mentioned in said character's article. If a character appears in Brawl or Melee as a trophy, then the article is thus useless and should not have ever existed. We've been over this with trophy articles (surprisingly, some of them are still here). | ||
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:Most things that exist just as trophies and stickers will have all their relevant info covered on the trophy and sticker list pages, so I don't reckon they need their own articles, unless they also appear elsewhere in the game. If someone tried to search for say, [[Midna]], we might create a little redirect page that links the reader to both the sticker and the trophy list pages. On the other hand, some people might consider Midna notable enough for her own article anyway. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 07:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | :Most things that exist just as trophies and stickers will have all their relevant info covered on the trophy and sticker list pages, so I don't reckon they need their own articles, unless they also appear elsewhere in the game. If someone tried to search for say, [[Midna]], we might create a little redirect page that links the reader to both the sticker and the trophy list pages. On the other hand, some people might consider Midna notable enough for her own article anyway. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 07:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::It's time I give my opinion on this. I completely agree with what you said about games and music articles. As for trophies, they should not get their own article unless they appear as elsewhere in SSB other than a sticker. In your example | ::It's time I give my opinion on this. I completely agree with what you said about games and music articles. As for trophies, they should not get their own article unless they appear as elsewhere in SSB other than a sticker. In your example, Midna should not get her own article. It doesn't matter if she is an important character in ''LoZ:TP'', she has no relevance to SSB other than a trophy. We are not the Nintendo Wiki, we are the Smash Wiki. We should not have these detailed articles on characters like Midna who only appear as trophies and the only information we need on them is their trophy information, which is already covered in the List of Trophies page. As such, all of these trophy articles are quite pointless to the Smash Wiki. In conclusion, all game articles should be deleted unless they have SSB references in them or have a substantial amount of contributions to ''SSB'' and all trophy articles should be deleted unless the character with the trophy has an appearance in SSB other than a sticker. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 07:20, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Agreed, except I think it might be a good idea to turn the trophy and sticker article pages into redirects or tiny disambiguation pages, rather than completely eradicating them. So, if someone searches for one of those things, they get pointed toward the information that we do have. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 07:30, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | :::Agreed, except I think it might be a good idea to turn the trophy and sticker article pages into redirects or tiny disambiguation pages, rather than completely eradicating them. So, if someone searches for one of those things, they get pointed toward the information that we do have. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 07:30, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::I have to disagree with that. Again, this is an encyclopedia about ''Smash Bros.'', not an encyclopedia on every Nintendo character. If someone wants to learn about Midna, they should go to the Zelda Wiki and search her there, not search her here. As such, we do not need hundreds of pointless redirects to the List of Trophies and List of Stickers pages so we can accommodate for those that are too lazy to type in "List of Trophies" in the search bar. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 08:44, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | ::::I have to disagree with that. Again, this is an encyclopedia about ''Smash Bros.'', not an encyclopedia on every Nintendo character. If someone wants to learn about Midna, they should go to the Zelda Wiki and search her there, not search her here. As such, we do not need hundreds of pointless redirects to the List of Trophies and List of Stickers pages so we can accommodate for those that are too lazy to type in "List of Trophies" in the search bar. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 08:44, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:*"we do not allow unnecessary redirects and all of these redirects would be what I consider unnecessary." That's nice. Every single one of these redirects is a reasonable search request, and is therefore something we should have a redirect for. | :*"we do not allow unnecessary redirects and all of these redirects would be what I consider unnecessary." That's nice. Every single one of these redirects is a reasonable search request, and is therefore something we should have a redirect for. | ||
One of the few logical points in the above discussion is that everything a trophy page contains could be feasibly listed in a single page. However, consider these facts: the recommended archive size for a talkpage is 32kb. The list of stickers page isn't even double that-- not an issue. But what is an issue is the ridiculous size of the trophy pages: list of ssbm trophies is 3.61 times the recommended archive size, and the ssbb trophies page is '''''6.7''''' times larger than is recommended. Pages of this size can actually break browsers for people-- on GWW we've protected staff members' talkpages because they got so large they broke for many users. These articles are subject to the same concerns, and a very simple way for us to avoid this is to split the information to multiple pages. List of SSBM/SSBB trophies will be what it is intended to be-- an actual list of trophies-- and each trophy page will contain the information that it is actually about. SmashWiki is a Smash encyclopedia, and for some reason that escapes me you all want to stop documenting information contained in the game. Lol? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 23:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC) | One of the few logical points in the above discussion is that everything a trophy page contains could be feasibly listed in a single page. However, consider these facts: the recommended archive size for a talkpage is 32kb. The list of stickers page isn't even double that-- not an issue. But what is an issue is the ridiculous size of the trophy pages: list of ssbm trophies is 3.61 times the recommended archive size, and the ssbb trophies page is '''''6.7''''' times larger than is recommended. Pages of this size can actually break browsers for people-- on GWW we've protected staff members' talkpages because they got so large they broke for many users. These articles are subject to the same concerns, and a very simple way for us to avoid this is to split the information to multiple pages. List of SSBM/SSBB trophies will be what it is intended to be-- an actual list of trophies-- and each trophy page will contain the information that it is actually about. SmashWiki is a Smash encyclopedia, and for some reason that escapes me you all want to stop documenting information contained in the game. Lol? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 23:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:As for the redirects, Mako Shark and I did came up with a compromise off Wiki where trophies that had common names such as Samus (Dark Suit) would have redirects, but your argument for them defeats mine. To clarify, I treat this Wiki as my project and as such, I'm trying to complete it utilising the least amount of space possible, which means not including anything that is likely to not get used and that I do not see as necessary. It is in my nature to deem these redirects as not needed, despite space not being an actual issue. But I can't counter your argument for them so I'll move one. | |||
:But when it comes to trophy articles, there are only three things that is needed on this Wiki about each trophy, the trophy's description that appears ingame, the trophy's picture, and a note explaining how the trophy is obtained, which is easily covered on the list of trophy page. As such, individual articles for characters that appear just as trophies are unnecessary and we should not have them when the information is easily covered in an existing article. You are right however about the list of trophy pages being far too large. A simple solution for this, instead of creating an individual article for every single trophy, we can instead split the list of trophies article into separate articles based on series, such as having a "List of SSBB Kirby Series Trophies", which are already sub sections in the List of SSBB Trophies article. Such a solution will turn over 400 articles into 22 articles, none of which will be overly large. The same can be done to the List of SSBM Trophies article and the List of Stickers article. | |||
:On a final note, you also convinced me that all games article must go, including those that made major contributions and those with references to Smash as this information can be covered in existing articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 19:55, July 22, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Okay a few things. | |||
::''"On these articles, extensive information that doesn't relate to Smash Bros shouldn't be included" How is it not relevant to Smash Bros when the trophy and its entire description appear in the game? Nobody cares if Mario was blamed for Baby Bowser's actions like the Super Mario Sunshine article will tell you, but people do care about reading paragraphs that actually appear in Smash. There are also trophies that are about the Smash games themselves-- how is this information not relevant?'' | |||
::My definition of extensive information that doesn't relate to Smash Bros can be seen in the [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/index.php?title=Roy_Campbell&oldid=144967 older version] of Roy Campbell's article, which I was referring to. "The trophy and its entire description" don't appear in the game because Roy Campbell is not a trophy. I used it as an example of a character article that should exist, despite disagreeing that individual trophy articles should exist. So if Roy Campbell had a trophy, its description would appear on that page, but the article should only exist because Brawl includes him, not because Brawl has a trophy of him. | |||
::''"can be found elsewhere on the internet." You mean kind of like every bit of information on any wiki ever? If you wanted to avoid redundancy by editing a wiki, you didn't succeed.'' | |||
::The original statement was "On these articles, extensive information that doesn't relate to Smash Bros shouldn't be included, because it's not relevant and can be found elsewhere on the internet." Please avoid chopping statements up if it distorts their meaning, and please try and be more clear and productive in your responses to statements. | |||
::''"games that make references to Smash do deserve their own articles." How do external references to the game warrant an article on the wiki? Out of all the things you've deemed relevant and irrelevant, this is the only one that doesn't even appear in Smash. 0/10.'' | |||
::Information about other games' references to Smash are relevant because they document the influence that Smash has had on other games. For example, in [[Kirby and the Amazing Mirror]], Master Hand and Crazy Hand appear as bosses, and an ability called "Smash" can be acquired, through which Kirby is able to use his Smash Bros moveset. It's arguable that the article for Kirby and the Amazing Mirror should be removed, and the information instead placed in Master Hand, Crazy Hand and Kirby's articles. Regardless, the information itself is important and should be kept somewhere on the wiki. | |||
::With regards to other game articles, the purpose of a game article is to group the information about that game's contributions to Smash. If the consensus is that the grouping of this information is not of encyclopaedic interest, then care should be taken to ensure that it is kept and placed in appropriate articles. | |||
::About trophies, if the trophy list page is too large for some browsers, it can be split into organised parts, either by universe or alphabetically. Having a tiny, individual page for each trophy is impractical when all its information can be grouped with other trophies and made more useful and accessible. Individual redirects should be made for the purpose of searches, I'm happy to do the job myself. | |||
::[[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 23:24, July 22, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I took nothing out of context. Your argument for removing the information was that it can be found elsewhere on the internet, which is a poor reason, and I pointed that out. Clear and productive response was clear and productive. | |||
:::"Information about other games' references to Smash are relevant because they document the influence that Smash has had on other games." Why is it our job to document that? If we are keeping track of the legacy SSB/M/B have had, why don't we have lists of awards that the games have won, total sales, like and such as? So far our content is based off stuff in the game and the people who play it-- why are we documenting external things that do not affect Smash at all? | |||
:::About trophies-- I'd be willing to accept splitting the lists into universes. I'd just leave the stickers in one list, though, because the page is small enough that it doesn't matter much. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 18:33, July 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::What I meant was, information that '''doesn't''' relate to Smash Bros isn't relevant, and that it appears elsewhere on the internet, therefore it can be linked to or referenced instead of being included, for further reading. I wasn't trying to express the idea that information should be removed just because it can be found elsewhere. | |||
::::With regards to games that Smash has influenced, a number of other people who play Smash and use this wiki find them interesting. I assume these people believe the information should stay, regardless of their disinterest in the awards and such that Smash has won. And so, the consensus is that the information in these articles is to be kept, whether as articles or in the articles of their respective characters - Master Hand, etc. If you disagree, by all means propose to remove the information entirely, but if I were you, I'd make sure the community agrees first. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 14:01, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
So, before I put the consensus of the forum into action, is there anyone who opposes the consensus? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 07:46, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Can you summarize the consensus first? It's hard to pick out. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] 12:40, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::The consensus of the forum would be that articles about stickers and songs do not belong (which have been purged already). Game articles do not belong, regardless of how much they contributed to smash, since the relevant information can be covered elsewhere, whether it is on the character articles or as in BNK's proposal below, merging the relevant information into a series page. The consensus of this forum is also that characters that just appear as nothing more than a trophy do not merit their own article as the needed information is covered in the List of Trophies page. But as Salad pointed out, the two List of Trophies pages are far too large. So as I suggested, they will be split into each series, which Mako Shark and Salad agreed with while no one opposed the suggestion. So unless someone opposes this consensus, I'll work to purge the game articles except for those that have contributed significantly (as I'm going to give BNK's proposal some more time). I'll also split the two List of Trophies pages into each series and then work on purging the trophy articles. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 13:13, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I oppose the game/trophy purge in general, but you should ignore it because I don't have a reason other than it's a huge change that will cut almost a quarter of our articles and provide users with even fewer things to do. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] 15:06, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::@Toomai - There's never too little to be done. The general focus of the community at the moment is improving the quality of existing articles, and removing trophy articles helps direct us toward improving the quality of more useful and important content, so I don't think it's anything to worry over. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 16:08, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Fewer things to do? I agree with OmegaTyrant in that trophies do not deserve their own articles because their information is covered on the list page. People went on to upload official artwork, etc. and the articles became mostly irrelevant information you can find at the character's respective Wiki. As for games, most need to be deleted while others should only be mentioned as trophies, moves, etc. come from them (as OT said, I proposed that said games be mentioned in universe articles). In short, we've gotten rid of sticker articles, but now we need to focus on getting rid of game and trophy articles. As far as trophies go, [[Jet the Hawk]] is an example of a completely unnecessary one. | |||
::::Furthermore, articles like [[Toad]] are comprised mostly of unnecessary information (probably copied from the MarioWiki?). There is a [[Toad (move)]] article, which is entirely legitimate, but the article for the character himself is '''not''' necessary. That was what I'm trying to get the community to agree on. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 22:39, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Is everyone alright with the idea of tagging unneeded trophy articles starting from now? [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 13:25, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yes it would be, but I thought you were going to make them into redirects? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 13:35, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::Actually, wait until the List of Trophies articles are fully split up. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 13:36, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::Okay. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 13:36, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Good job on the trophy list articles so far. OT, is it alright if I start tagging game articles for deletion? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:13, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Would it also be OK if I started tagging lone trophy articles like [[Toadsworth]] for deletion? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:19, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Go ahead. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 21:30, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Didn't we decide those should be redirected? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 21:35, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::If that is the case, then we will have to wait until Omega Tyrant has completed the task of separating the lists. I'll just start tagging the games instead. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:43, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::Let me rephrase that: I'll tag game articles for deletion, and I'll try to make a "Game Origins" section for universe pages. Sound good? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:46, August 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::The trophy articles should still be tagged as it will put them in the speedy delete category, which would make them easier for others to find and redirect. | |||
Should the "trophy" and "sticker" categories be deleted, since they only contain elements that exist as both trophies/stickers and appear elsewhere? [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 13:27, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:If you're referring to the series specific categories, then they have been already getting deleted. If you're referring to categories SSBM and SSBB trophies, then they should be kept as they can go on any page with trophy information. As for sticker categories, they should be deleted. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 13:36, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::What about the category "Trophies"? Keep or remove? [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 13:42, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Since we already have the SSBM and SSBB trophy categories, the catgory "Trophies" is not needed and will be deleted. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 13:46, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== New proposal - Stopping the madness == | == New proposal - Stopping the madness == | ||
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:Seems poorly designed and unlikely to be of use, especially when there is no series for pages to be contained in. A merge to a universe page could work, but then again, why are we documenting games that don't appear in the game anyway? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 23:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC) | :Seems poorly designed and unlikely to be of use, especially when there is no series for pages to be contained in. A merge to a universe page could work, but then again, why are we documenting games that don't appear in the game anyway? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 23:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I agree with merging with universe pages instead, but in response to your question: I'm not sure, I was suggesting that we merge games like [[Super Mario 64]] to a series page (now a universe page) because the games category is ridiculously long and, to be honest, isn't needed. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC) | ::I agree with merging with universe pages instead, but in response to your question: I'm not sure, I was suggesting that we merge games like [[Super Mario 64]] to a series page (now a universe page) because the games category is ridiculously long and, to be honest, isn't needed. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I just read your above wall, and I have to say I agree with you on the hand of other games. We should not document them, so now I ask what we should do with said game articles: Are we to delete them? I don't think they belong, but I was trying to find a way around conflict and proposed a merge. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:15, July 21, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::The article count doesn't matter TOO much (stickers, member?), but these are games that contribute. Merge all games that have a mention into a page. So, '''MERGE'''.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 22:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Shouldn't we keep masterpieces? '''<span style="font-family:Chiller;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>''' 19:11, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree with HR48, we should keep the masterpieces. <font face="sand" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:dp99.png]] 19:14, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||