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== Moving to subcategory ==
== Moving to subcategory ==


Hey, I just recently created the category [[Category:British_smashers]] and would like it to be placed a a subcategory of European smashers. Can anyone do this for me, or teach me as I'm still new to the whole contribution thing. thanks - [[Aiko]]
Hey, I just recently created the category [[:Category:British smashers]] and would like it to be placed a a subcategory of European smashers. Can anyone do this for me, or teach me as I'm still new to the whole contribution thing. thanks - [[Aiko]]


== Region Pages ==
== Region Pages ==
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A member of my Smash crew goes by the name 'Green', but he can't add a page about himself because Green redirects to Green Shell.  What should I do?  [[User:Trig.|Trig.]] 14:20, March 4, 2007 (CST)
A member of my Smash crew goes by the name 'Green', but he can't add a page about himself because Green redirects to Green Shell.  What should I do?  [[User:Trig.|Trig.]] 14:20, March 4, 2007 (CST)
: The page can be named [[Green (smasher)]]. You see, searching for shell doesn't work. That's why green and red redirects to the shell articles. When that's fixed, the page can be moved to [[Green]]. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 20:31, March 4, 2007 (GMT)
: The page can be named [Green (smasher)]. You see, searching for shell doesn't work. That's why green and red redirects to the shell articles. When that's fixed, the page can be moved to [[Green]]. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 20:31, March 4, 2007 (GMT)
:Ok, I think I might have done something wrong because now Green redirects to Green (Smasher) instead of Green Shell.
:Ok, I think I might have done something wrong because now Green redirects to Green (Smasher) instead of Green Shell.
:: That's weird [{{FULLURL:Green|redirect=no}} here] it says it redirects to [[Green Shell]], but clicking a the link or writing 'green' in the search box links to [[Green (smasher)]]. Maybe that's related to the shell issue ... ? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 20:42, March 4, 2007 (GMT)
:: That's weird [{{FULLURL:Green|redirect=no}} here] it says it redirects to [[Green Shell]], but clicking a the link or writing 'green' in the search box links to [Green (smasher)]. Maybe that's related to the shell issue ... ? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 20:42, March 4, 2007 (GMT)


==[[Red Shell]]==
==[[Red Shell]]==
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: Any URL with the word "shell" doesn't work.  The devious powers-that-be are playing with our souls!! ....err, rather, we haven't found any rhyme or reason to why the shell glitch occurs, but for the meantime we redirect from "red" or "green." {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 16:14, March 5, 2007 (GMT)
: Any URL with the word "shell" doesn't work.  The devious powers-that-be are playing with our souls!! ....err, rather, we haven't found any rhyme or reason to why the shell glitch occurs, but for the meantime we redirect from "red" or "green." {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 16:14, March 5, 2007 (GMT)


:: <s>Well, [[Green]] redirects to [[Green (smasher)]], even if [{{FULLURL:Green|redirect=no}}it says] it redirects to [[Green Shell]]... see [[#Problem with a redirection]].</s> {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:55, March 5, 2007 (GMT)
:: <s>Well, [[Green]] redirects to [Green (smasher)], even if [{{FULLURL:Green|redirect=no}}it says] it redirects to [[Green Shell]]... see [[#Problem with a redirection]].</s> {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:55, March 5, 2007 (GMT)


== Congratulations ==
== Congratulations ==
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== Languages ==
== Languages ==


Currently, the only page in other languages is [[Global Smasher Compendium]] ([[GSC/fr|fr]], [[GSC/sv|sv]], [[GSC/es|es]]) which I personally find a shame. Maybe we should have other pages in other languages (like [[sv:Super Smash Bros. Melee]] for a Swedish SSBM article). Whaddcha think? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 18:26, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
Currently, the only page in other languages is [[Global Smasher Compendium]] (<nowiki>[[GSC/fr|fr]], [[GSC/sv|sv]], [[GSC/es|es]]</nowiki>) which I personally find a shame. Maybe we should have other pages in other languages (like [sv:Super Smash Bros. Melee] for a Swedish SSBM article). Whaddcha think? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 18:26, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
: Eh? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 19:13, March 20, 2007 (GMT)
: Eh? {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 19:13, March 20, 2007 (GMT)
:: I don't know that we have enough of an international audience for that to make a huge difference. Also I'd be concerned about having to monitor the content of different wikis in different languages on top of this one, and handling policies on each, and the extra administrative work that would probably be involved. I'm really just not convinced that there's a significant need for this. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 02:07, March 21, 2007 (GMT)
:: I don't know that we have enough of an international audience for that to make a huge difference. Also I'd be concerned about having to monitor the content of different wikis in different languages on top of this one, and handling policies on each, and the extra administrative work that would probably be involved. I'm really just not convinced that there's a significant need for this. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 02:07, March 21, 2007 (GMT)
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== Engrish ==
== Engrish ==


Is it necessary to have the Japanese pronunciations if it's just Engrish? Is there a point to writing "Kyaputen Farukon" (Captain Falcon) or "Roi" (Roy) or "Rinku" (Link)? Some, such as Pikachu and Mario are written exactly the same way. And this also goes for "Kuppa" (Bowser). Why not just write "Koopa" and leave it at that? {{Unsigned|Greenblob}}
Is it necessary to have the Japanese pronunciations if it's just Engrish? Is there a point to writing "Kyaputen Farukon" (Captain Falcon) or "Roi" (Roy) or "Rinku" (Link)? Some, such as Pikachu and Mario are written exactly the same way. And this also goes for "Kuppa" (Bowser). Why not just write "Koopa" and leave it at that? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Greenblob|Greenblob]] ([[User talk:Greenblob|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Greenblob|contribs]]) </small>
: There is a point for that. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:18, March 18, 2007 (GMT)
: There is a point for that. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:18, March 18, 2007 (GMT)


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== Professionals ==
== Professionals ==


Nothing about the definition (waits for sigh of relief)....just wondering if we still need the [[Professionals]] page now that the [[:Category:Character Specific Professionals]] page is done. I think the former is unnecessary. Btw I need a page deleted which is listed in that category..it's a duplicate where an error occurred when I used ''&'' in the title. -- [[User:Delphiki|Bean]] 06:23, March 23, 2007 (GMT)
Nothing about the definition (waits for sigh of relief)....just wondering if we still need the [[Professionals]] page now that the :Category:Character Specific Professionals]] page is done. I think the former is unnecessary. Btw I need a page deleted which is listed in that category..it's a duplicate where an error occurred when I used ''&'' in the title. -- [[User:Delphiki|Bean]] 06:23, March 23, 2007 (GMT)


:I agree, [[:Category:Character Specific Professionals]] is a lot more organized etc etc. Redirecting the [[Professionals]] page to the category would be for the best. imo. Anyone else agree? --[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 01:20, May 26, 2007 (GMT)
:I agree, :Category:Character Specific Professionals]] is a lot more organized etc etc. Redirecting the [[Professionals]] page to the category would be for the best. imo. Anyone else agree? --[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 01:20, May 26, 2007 (GMT)


::What really defines a Smash Bros. Professional?  [[User:HyrulePlayer|<font color="gold"><i>HyrulePlayer</i></font>]]
::What really defines a Smash Bros. Professional?  [[User:HyrulePlayer|<font color="gold"><i>HyrulePlayer</i></font>]]
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*'''[[Ryota Hayami]]''': This is an example I've already implemented in the past. Notice how I've started the article with an introduction of Ryota, then somewhat detailed what he is like in the Wave Race games, then proceeded to summarize Ryota's each and every appearance thus far in the Smash Bros. series. In Ryota's case his only appearance was in a Melee trophy, but since the trophy is named Ryota Hayami, it should be and is fully detailed in the article. If Ryota is to make any Smash appearances in the future, the way this page is laid out will allow for additional content about that.
*'''[[Ryota Hayami]]''': This is an example I've already implemented in the past. Notice how I've started the article with an introduction of Ryota, then somewhat detailed what he is like in the Wave Race games, then proceeded to summarize Ryota's each and every appearance thus far in the Smash Bros. series. In Ryota's case his only appearance was in a Melee trophy, but since the trophy is named Ryota Hayami, it should be and is fully detailed in the article. If Ryota is to make any Smash appearances in the future, the way this page is laid out will allow for additional content about that.


An advantage to doing everything in this format is that all these pages can be easily extended to accomodate new content from Brawl when it is released. Another advantage is that now you won't have to be a Smasher in order to understand how the site's content is arranged and titled; whereas before you'd have to knowingly search for [[Chansey (trophy)]] to get to a tiny page about a character ''who probably has other equally undeveloped articles about it'', now you can just type in the name of a Nintendo subject like Marth and get an informative and developed page about him as a Nintendo character that summarizes all his appearance in the Smash Bros. series thus far (including full details on the three Melee trophies named Marth), and people interested in how Marth plays can follow a link from the Marth page to [[Marth (SSBM)]] (and another link to [[Marth (SSBB)]] in the future, if he is to return in Brawl). If SmashWiki's aim is to be accessible to both casual gamers and hardcore Smashers, then I think doing things this way would work out great for everyone. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 16:41, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
An advantage to doing everything in this format is that all these pages can be easily extended to accomodate new content from Brawl when it is released. Another advantage is that now you won't have to be a Smasher in order to understand how the site's content is arranged and titled; whereas before you'd have to knowingly search for Chansey (trophy) to get to a tiny page about a character ''who probably has other equally undeveloped articles about it'', now you can just type in the name of a Nintendo subject like Marth and get an informative and developed page about him as a Nintendo character that summarizes all his appearance in the Smash Bros. series thus far (including full details on the three Melee trophies named Marth), and people interested in how Marth plays can follow a link from the Marth page to [[Marth (SSBM)]] (and another link to [[Marth (SSBB)]] in the future, if he is to return in Brawl). If SmashWiki's aim is to be accessible to both casual gamers and hardcore Smashers, then I think doing things this way would work out great for everyone. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 16:41, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
: Man, that's '''loads''' of text. I only red the last part, and I agree. Talking about formatting, I don't think we should capitalize words. ("Aerial Forward A" should be "aerial forward A".) {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:56, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
: Man, that's '''loads''' of text. I only red the last part, and I agree. Talking about formatting, I don't think we should capitalize words. ("Aerial Forward A" should be "aerial forward A".) {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 17:56, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
:: Take your time, take your time. :) I feel loads of text is reasonable when the concept of the proposal features '''loads''' of implications, however. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 21:25, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
:: Take your time, take your time. :) I feel loads of text is reasonable when the concept of the proposal features '''loads''' of implications, however. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 21:25, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
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== And the shell mystery gets even more confusing... ==
== And the shell mystery gets even more confusing... ==


[[Red Shell (trophy)]] doesn't seem to cause problems, unlike [[Green Shell]] and [[Red Shell]]. W...T...F... [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 08:39, April 23, 2007 (GMT)
Red Shell (trophy) doesn't seem to cause problems, unlike [[Green Shell]] and [[Red Shell]]. W...T...F... [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 08:39, April 23, 2007 (GMT)


:Haha, weird....perhaps then [[Red Shell (item)]] is the solution? --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:31, April 23, 2007 (GMT)
:Haha, weird....perhaps then [Red Shell (item)]] is the solution? --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:31, April 23, 2007 (GMT)


== Article of the month ==
== Article of the month ==
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:::I see your point. The person i'm having the most difficulty with though is [[User:SSJBowser]]. Several of us continue to remove the images and we even state quite clearly why they're not wanted in the discussion of the page. I also even gave them a link to the image policy page, but they he/she continues to upload more useless and large pictures onto his pages. I strongly feel that if this continues, he should be [[SmashWiki:Block_policy|blocked]]. imho.--[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 19:27, May 26, 2007 (GMT)
:::I see your point. The person i'm having the most difficulty with though is [[User:SSJBowser]]. Several of us continue to remove the images and we even state quite clearly why they're not wanted in the discussion of the page. I also even gave them a link to the image policy page, but they he/she continues to upload more useless and large pictures onto his pages. I strongly feel that if this continues, he should be [[SmashWiki:Block_policy|blocked]]. imho.--[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 19:27, May 26, 2007 (GMT)


::::I made a Swedish translation found at [[MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext/sv]], but the admins aren't doing anything. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 11:06, June 5, 2007 (EDT)
::::I made a Swedish translation found at MediaWiki talk:Uploadtext/sv, but the admins aren't doing anything. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 11:06, June 5, 2007 (EDT)


:::::My apologies.  If you ever need me to do something, you can e-mail me at MaskedFalcon (at) gmail (dot) com, since I seem to check that more often these days. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 14:35, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
:::::My apologies.  If you ever need me to do something, you can e-mail me at MaskedFalcon (at) gmail (dot) com, since I seem to check that more often these days. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 14:35, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
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We need one of those for the people not able to view Japanese lettres. And we need to get more people aware of [[template:ja]]'s existence. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 11:07, June 5, 2007 (EDT)
We need one of those for the people not able to view Japanese lettres. And we need to get more people aware of [[template:ja]]'s existence. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 11:07, June 5, 2007 (EDT)


== [[Kirby (update)]] and others... ==
== Kirby (update) and others... ==


Say, can we please start deleting these: [[Talk:Kirby_%28update%29]] -- <font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:03, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
Say, can we please start deleting these: Talk:Kirby_%28update%29 -- <font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:03, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
:I second deleting these. They're incredibly unnecessary. [[User:Thores|Thores]] 21:26, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
:I second deleting these. They're incredibly unnecessary. [[User:Thores|Thores]] 21:26, June 10, 2007 (EDT)
::We could merge them into one big article. Would that be okay? [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 06:58, June 12, 2007 (EDT)
::We could merge them into one big article. Would that be okay? [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 06:58, June 12, 2007 (EDT)
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::::[[Super Smash Bros. Dojo!! updates]]: This is the big article we're talking about, right? [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 14:37, June 12, 2007 (EDT)
::::[[Super Smash Bros. Dojo!! updates]]: This is the big article we're talking about, right? [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 14:37, June 12, 2007 (EDT)


==  [[Beam sword]] notice==
==  [[Beam Sword]] notice==
For those of you who are beam sword fans, I have good news for you.  The Beam sword returns in [[SSBB]]!  Look at this link in smashbros.com [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pit.html#2nd].  In the first box, where Pit is fighting Mario, you can see a beam sword by Mario's forward foot. [[User:HyrulePlayer|HyrulePlayer]] 10:40, June 14, 2007 (EDT)
For those of you who are beam sword fans, I have good news for you.  The Beam sword returns in [[SSBB]]!  Look at this link in smashbros.com [http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pit.html#2nd].  In the first box, where Pit is fighting Mario, you can see a beam sword by Mario's forward foot. [[User:HyrulePlayer|HyrulePlayer]] 10:40, June 14, 2007 (EDT)
:Never Mind.  It's part of the level, not a beam sword.  <b><i><font color="green">HyrulePlayer</font></i></b>
:Never Mind.  It's part of the level, not a beam sword.  <b><i><font color="green">HyrulePlayer</font></i></b>
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:Nevermind; I just looked it up and will update the page. --[[User:Galvanic|Galvanic]] 22:43, October 16, 2007 (EDT)
:Nevermind; I just looked it up and will update the page. --[[User:Galvanic|Galvanic]] 22:43, October 16, 2007 (EDT)


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