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:::Read [[SmashWiki:Talk pages#Posting on talk pages|SW:TALK]]. If you disagree with the reason, respond to it in a civil manner, rather than raging about it in a disruptive manner. Otherwise, your point isn't going to get across. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 05:45, 5 August 2014 (EDT) | :::Read [[SmashWiki:Talk pages#Posting on talk pages|SW:TALK]]. If you disagree with the reason, respond to it in a civil manner, rather than raging about it in a disruptive manner. Otherwise, your point isn't going to get across. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 05:45, 5 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
::It's a logical comparison that you're quite frankly not seeing at all. R.O.B. was the only robot prior to Mega Man's announcement. This really wasn't interesting to anyone at all, so he never received the trivia point. If you're going to try to argue for this trivia point to remain, then give reasons as to why it's interesting, because honestly, it's a blatantly obvious and bland trivia point. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 11:25, 5 August 2014 (EDT) | ::It's a logical comparison that you're quite frankly not seeing at all. R.O.B. was the only robot prior to Mega Man's announcement. This really wasn't interesting to anyone at all, so he never received the trivia point. If you're going to try to argue for this trivia point to remain, then give reasons as to why it's interesting, because honestly, it's a blatantly obvious and bland trivia point. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 11:25, 5 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
::: so 'mewtwo is the only legendary' and 'mewtwo is the only genderless fighter' not bland and obvious? [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 03:55, 7 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
== Why is this article at Lady Palutena == | |||
Pit is the only character who refers to her as such. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 10:17, 17 December 2014 (EST) | |||
== I'm pretty sure Palutena's not in the 1st game. == | |||
Or at least, not in the 3D classics. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:41, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:She definitely is, she just played more of a "damsel in distress" role in it, which is why one may not remember her being in it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:42, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:[http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/nes/a/kidicar-4.png] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:56, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
Okay then.... Is there a way to fix this fact? Or just mention she's the only Kid Icarus character without extra jumps? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Unowninator|contribs]]) 21:11, January 27, 2016 (EST)</small> | |||
:That becomes a 1/3. :Why is it so important that it gets mentioned? It's not really interesting anyway. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:14, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
<B>Okay, let's pretend that she IS a Sakurai character?</b> Why wouldn't it be interesting? Compared to let's say, this: | |||
''<I>All 5 of Charizard's air attacks only hit once. It is the only Pokémon with this behavior. </i>'' | |||
:I just don't get it, do I? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:21, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Compare "Number of playable characters in the ''Kid Icarus'' universe" with "Number of playable characters in the ''Pokemon'' universe" and the answer will be clear. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:24, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
I think you missed a part. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 22:27, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:If there was a way to phrase it to group all Kirby and Kid Icarus characters together, that might be notable. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:27, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::The only thing to that effect that I can think of would be "franchises Sakurai has contributed to, outside of smash" and that is way to specific. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 22:29, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::Plus I'm sure if you did a little digging there are other games Sakurai's contributed to besides Kirby and Kid Icarus. | |||
:::So yeah. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:31, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
== Move == | |||
I'm '''neutral''' on this since I don't know the context of her being called Lady Palutena (is it just Pit? or do other characters call her that too?), but since it's been moved twice without discussion I figured we probably should have some of that. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="magenta">cupid♥</font>]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 16:34, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
<br>'''Eh''', it seems unnecessary. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:pink">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:38, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:'''Oppose''' Really only Pit calls her that, and it's more of a formality thing. We don't call Mario "Mr. Mario". [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:HotPink; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareValentineSig.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:39, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::We already had it moved once before. I believe [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Palutena&diff=629178&oldid=629174 this] should settle things. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Lovely Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 17:14, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:::Same point I made back then. It's just Pit being respectful; nobody else calls her that. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:00, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::::I do. But on the other hand, even if this discussion has ended, I would have '''opposed''' as well, since Lady is just a way to address her. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 18:19, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:::::'''Oppose''' Per above. Also, we have other characters that had titles follow their name, yet they are mainly treated the same way here. moving would raise more obligations. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 18:25, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
::::::'''Oppose''' per others. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']] [[User talk:Penro|...that's all.]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 18:28, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
My remaining question would be, is there any specific situation where someone calls her just "Palutena" instead of "Lady Palutena"? Or is Pit the only one who calls her that because he's the only one who ever actually says her name? | |||
Also, saying that it's just a formality is a vaguely meh reason considering we have [[Princess Peach]] and [[Princess Zelda]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="magenta">cupid♥</font>]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 18:57, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
:That's because those are, canonically, their full names. It's the exact same with [[Sonic the Hedgehog]]. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Lovely Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 18:59, 15 February 2016 (EST) | |||
==Incorrect trivia?== | |||
* Palutena, Ridley, the dog from Duck Hunt, Dark Samus, Wii Fit Trainer, and Piranha Plant are the only playable characters in the Super Smash Bros. series that do not have a playable appearance in any other official video game by Nintendo. | |||
Isn't this wrong? Aren't most of the third party characters not playable in official Nintendo games? The only Nintendo game I can think of with those characters is the Super Mario Maker amiibo thing, but Palutena, Duck Hunt, and Wii Fit Trainer are playable in that too. [[User:Kyubeasy|Kyubeasy]] ([[User talk:Kyubeasy|talk]]) 17:15, December 10, 2020 (EST) | |||
:While I agree that the "official video game by Nintendo" wording is weird, the Super Mario Maker amiibo thing is, in fact, not a playable character; it's called {{s|mariowiki|Costume Mario}}, which indicates that it is a costume that Mario wears. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:26, December 10, 2020 (EST) | |||