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== Rolf Harris == | |||
Why don’t you talk about the Rolf Harris scandal timing with this game release? | |||
== Every Character and Color in HD == | == Every Character and Color in HD == | ||
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:what your talking about is angling the forward tilt, it's been here since Melee nothing new. [[User:Thesupernintendokid|Thesupernintendokid]] ([[User talk:Thesupernintendokid|talk]]) 20:03, 18 November 2014 (EST) | :what your talking about is angling the forward tilt, it's been here since Melee nothing new. [[User:Thesupernintendokid|Thesupernintendokid]] ([[User talk:Thesupernintendokid|talk]]) 20:03, 18 November 2014 (EST) | ||
::Since when does an angled forward tilt produce a jab? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 20:13, 18 November 2014 (EST) | ::Since when does an angled forward tilt produce a jab? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 20:13, 18 November 2014 (EST) | ||
:::Tried this in the Wii U version, and its much easier due to the Wii controller support. Noticed it also works diagonally backwards (although this will still jab forwards). [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 18:33, 22 November 2014 (EST) | |||
I've seen and done that in the 3DS version multiple times. I don't really think it's anything special. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 18:40, 22 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== Left,Right,left,right,TRIP?! == | |||
I Found out if you go left and right quickly you can trip?Maybe you knew that | |||
--EnderNan 08:56, 7 December 2014 (EST)EnderNan | |||
:...you sure there wasn't anything in your way? Like, an attack that can trip, or an [[Banana Peel|item that can trip]]? Because, as it states [[Super Smash Bros. 4#Changes from Brawl|on the page]], Sakurai removed random tripping altogether (specifically, the example you just mentioned). [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Blue'''</span>]][[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Streak'''</span>]] 09:00, 10 December 2014 (EST) | |||
Tripping also can happen if you are hit with a down "A" attack. (Which can be pretty funny to the opponent and annoying to the amused player) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Foxhound|Foxhound]] ([[User talk:Foxhound|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxhound|contribs]]) 13:34, 5 April 2015 (EDT)</small> | |||
== The "Giant Fluff of Text" == | |||
I honestly don't care whether or not it's there, but seeing as how [[Super Smash Bros. Melee|these]] [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl|two]] pages also have it, I think it's fair to say that it should either be all or nothing. Just my opinion. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:01, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:I intend to similarly trim those pages if nobody can make a good case for why they should be this bulky. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:13, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
::I think the best way to do that (again, this is ''my'' opinion) is to reword a bunch of it so that it's not split into too many little sections... | |||
::("blah blah blah" | |||
::"different blah blah blah") | |||
::...but still have a majority of what it had said at first. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:17, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:::I guess my main thought is "What does that text tell somebody that ten seconds of looking at [[List of Super Smash Bros. series characters|this page]] wouldn't?" I tried to trim down to the biggest and most important pieces. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:50, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
::::A little summarization of it all couldn't hurt. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 11:53, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::So how would you (concisely) summarize that whole wall of text? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:54, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
<small>(Reset indent) </small>Well, let's see here. Let's take [[Super Smash Bros. 4|this]] as an example. | |||
''"The original announcement of the game revealed a number of playable characters. Since then, other characters were announced via [[Miiverse]], [[Nintendo Direct]]s, and other videos until the official release of the game. There are 50 [[character]] slots on the roster (52 counting each Mii Fighter as an individual character). Twelve of them need to be unlocked before they appear in the 3DS version, and 8 are unlockable in the Wii U version. Only one character, {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}, is confirmed to appear as downloadable content. Seven characters from ''[[Brawl]]'' do not return. While [[Charizard]] returns, the [[Pokémon Trainer]] and [[Squirtle|his]] [[Ivysaur|Pokémon]] do not return. The {{uv|EarthBound}} universe drops its only other rep, [[Lucas]]. [[Wolf]] from {{uv|Star Fox}} is also cut. The [[Ice Climbers]] and their universe get dropped, but the [[Polar Bear]] makes an appearance in the 3DS exclusive mode, [[Smash Run]]. The {{uv|Metal Gear}} franchise gets dropped completely, with no representation at all in ''Smash 4''. Three universes gain two newcomers each, being {{uv|Mario}}, {{uv|Fire Emblem}}, and {{uv|Kid Icarus}}. The {{uv|Pokémon}} universe brings [[Greninja]] as a newcomer, while also bringing back [[Mewtwo]] from ''[[Melee]]''. Multiple new universes are also added, such as {{uv|Wii Fit}} and {{uv|Xenoblade Chronicles}}. Finally, three universes previously represented with no playable characters gain their first characters, being {{uv|Punch-Out!!}}, {{uv|Animal Crossing}}, and {{uv|Super Smash Bros.}}."'' | |||
Granted, this would be somewhat lengthy, but it would work. [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 12:21, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:That's a bit of an improvement, definitely. It could work as is, although it may be worth considering trimming down the references to universes (e.g. the note about the Polar Bear). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:34, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
::If I were to do that, then it would imply that the universe has been dropped altogether (which it hasn't). [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 12:35, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:::I guess what I was getting at was that... | |||
::::"The {{uv|EarthBound}} universe drops its only other rep, [[Lucas]]. [[Wolf]] from {{uv|Star Fox}} is also cut. The [[Ice Climbers]] and their universe get dropped, but the [[Polar Bear]] makes an appearance in the 3DS exclusive mode, [[Smash Run]]." | |||
:::...could be replaced by something more like: | |||
::::"Some playable characters from ''Brawl'' are not playable in this iteration, including [[Lucas]] from the {{uv|EarthBound}} series, [[Wolf]] from the {{uv|Star Fox}} series, and the [[Ice Climbers]] from the {{uv|Ice Climber}} series." | |||
:::I feel like it's more cohesive and on-topic that way. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:47, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
::::That could work. If I'm understanding our conversation completely, you're saying that the paragraph that I wrote could work as a replacement for the big wall of text that was previously there (including the edit that you made to said paragraph)? [[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan the'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aura Master'''</span>]] 12:52, 4 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Something close to it, yeah. It was the length and messiness of it that was a problem, not its existence as a whole. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:01, 5 February 2015 (EST) | |||
== Nerf to projectile camping? == | |||
So according to some character pages like Bowser and Ganondorf, projectile camping was nerfed. However, I can't seem to find it anywhere on the wiki. How were they nerfed? [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 01:21, 22 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:I've looked around the wiki too, and it doesn't really seem like a general physics change. The closest I can think of is that many projectiles, such as Falco's Blaster, were nerfed in speed and damage, and that infinite locks, such as his laser lock, were removed. [[User:B2jammer|b2jammer]] ([[User talk:B2jammer|talk]]) 13:19, 25 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Should We Change the Title?== | |||
Now that the games have been released, should we change the article's title to the official title of the games? using the title "Super Smash Bros. 4" is certainly shorter than "Super Smash Bros for WiiU/3DS", but at the same time, it's a little unprofessional. --[[User:Mochikitty|Meowzers!]] ([[User talk:Mochikitty|talk]]) 07:13, 24 February 2015 (EST) | |||
:New sections go at the bottom, and it has already been decided that it'd be better for everyone if we kept it as Smash 4. It's what the grand majority call it anyway. Besides, we have pages for the individual versions as well. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 13:34, 24 February 2015 (EST) | |||
*Sorry, I had recently joined...--[[User:Mochikitty|Meowzers!]] ([[User talk:Mochikitty|talk]]) 12:15, 3 March 2015 (EST) | |||
== New glitch == | |||
This is a glitch I found. I was being Wario playing against Rosalina on Garden of Hope (or whatever the Wii U Pikmin stage is called), and managed to chomp Rosalina while she was in the pot thingy, and when she came out she was small. I chomped her when she was small, and she was spinning right below Wario's mouth. She didn't go back to normal size until she got stuck in the pot again. What is this? [[User:Trainiax|Trainiax: Waluigi in Smash?]] [[User talk:Trainiax|Discuss it!]] 19:46, 1 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== In-Game Shops == | |||
I feel like [http://www.smashbros.com/us/dlc/index.html#buy this] should be mentioned somewhere on the wiki, but I don't know where exactly. It's own page, maybe? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FirstaLasto|FirstaLasto]] ([[User talk:FirstaLasto|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FirstaLasto|contribs]]) 22:54, 1 April 2015 (EDT)</small> | |||
== New glitch No# 2 discovered == | |||
It has been discovered that zero suit Samus from the Metroid series is now known to pose in a certain inappropriate manner. It has brought attention to many of those who used zero suit samus frequently. This glitch has been presented on youtube if you care to check it out <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Foxhound|Foxhound]] ([[User talk:Foxhound|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxhound|contribs]]) 12:48, 5 April 2015 (EDT)</small> | |||
== Mewtwo ,Lucas ,Wolf == | |||
Its been said that Mewtwo will enter into the ring of super smash bros. for 3ds and wii u for free IF you contain both versions of the game with the club Nintendo code. Registrations for Mewtwo's DLC ended on 3/31/2015. Download codes will be emailed to Nintendo club members on 4/15/2015. But you can buy Mewtwo separately for 3.99 in the eshop. For such a good character he is pretty cheap. (the price is agreeable). It has also been said that Lucas will join Super Smash bros. for 3ds and wii u. Lucas's information is still new so the only information I have is his appearance. The same goes with wolf. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Foxhound|Foxhound]] ([[User talk:Foxhound|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxhound|contribs]]) 13:05, 5 April 2015 (EDT)</small> | |||
:Yeah, one question; who ever said that Wolf was coming back? They only said alternate costumes for Miis, Mewtwo and Lucas are being offered DLC at the moment. Or is that you ''think'' Wolf is coming back? [[User:Hylia's Eye|Hylia's Eye]] ([[User talk:Hylia's Eye|talk]]) 19:25, 7 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
::If people vote enough, Wolf will probably make it back. [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 09:25, 17 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Question == | |||
Why aren't we talking about updating late information about super smash bros. Brawl, In that fact. Why aren't we updating any ssb info on the wiki. Shouldn't we be doing that frequently <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Foxhound|Foxhound]] ([[User talk:Foxhound|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Foxhound|contribs]]) 13:41, 5 April 2015 (EDT)</small> | |||
:Such as? [[File:SKSig.png|16px]] [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color: #008833;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 19:35, 7 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Also, this does not belong here. :/ [[File:SKSig.png|16px]] [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color: #008833;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 19:35, 7 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== DLC section == | |||
Shouldn't there be a DLC section because we are expecting more than Mewtwo and Lucas. Or make DLC characters in Italics? [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 09:28, 17 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Changes from ''Brawl'' == | |||
Would it be okay to remove the more minor changes from the list of differences, focusing more on the new features? <span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span> ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 13:04, 19 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
*Nyargleblargle, I think that there are so many differences, this section warrants its own page. Can someone create a page for [[Changes from Brawl to SSB4]] then I can edit it. [[Special:Contributions/108.178.162.66|108.178.162.66]] 12:45, 4 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
::I think a page for just that is absolutely unnecessary. (Also, you indent with a :, not a *.) [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 12:49, 4 May 2015 (EDT) | |||
==Unfitting Name?== | |||
Isn't the name Super Smash Bros. 4 a fan-given name? I'm pretty sure Nintendo never used that. Shouldn't the title be a little more official and proper? I have an urge to move this to ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U'', but I know this is a pretty important page, so I would like to ask why it is named such. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 12:38, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:First, [[SW:NOT|SmashWiki is not official]]. Second, it's much easier to type out this way. Finally, what would we move the character pages to? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: blue">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] Let's go Mets! ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;"> ·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 14:18, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Of ''course'' this isn't an official website; I was just suggesting that we use official names. The fact that it is easier to type out is a pretty weak excuse; it's just a few characters extra, and according to the exact same page you referred to, '''''SmashWiki covers the canon Smash series, not fanon or invented additions.''''' --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:23, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:The same page states that unofficial names can be used, but ONLY if they are very popular (Ukemi/tech) (Side smash/forward smash) (Strong attack/tilts) (Weak attack/(Neutral attack/jab)) etc. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red"><font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">'''''(Talk • '''''</font>]][[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">'''''Contribs)'''''</font>]]</sup></font></span> 14:24, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:...It's not fanon though. The name you propose would cause another subpage issue as well, as it will treat ''Wii U'' as a subpage of ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS''. Finally, I agree with NB, a lot of unnecessary work for a non-existent problem. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:26, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Eh... okay, I guess the principles are slightly different here than MarioWiki. All the other NIWA wikis use the full name, but if the principle here has always been popular fan-name over officially used name, then fine. I still think that's a little strange, though. | |||
Can someone explain the reasoning behind this? --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:31, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:In this particular example, I think it's because this wiki is highly influenced by the tourney scene. The scene collectively calls the game "Smash 4" so so do we. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:37, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Here's the issue, though: tourneys are often done by fans. The official name is made by Nintendo, and thus canon. By keeping a non-canon name, it seems to suggest that a tourney's fan-made name is more valued here than the actual official content of Smash itself. --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:43, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Technically, there isn't consistent official formatting as to the name for the two games together; look at the official website and the Nintendo Directs which have featured the games, and you'll see a number of variant spellings. Also, it's worth noting that the official shorthand in Japanese for the two versions is "スマブラ for", with "for" being used as the game suffix equivalently to "DX" (Melee) and "X" (Brawl). We're using a comparable English shorthand for this page, and the formal titles for the two versions themselves. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:44, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
However, ''Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS/Wii U'' is the most common name in English, seen on most logos. There's a rule on MarioWiki that encourages American names over European/Japanese ones. Doesn't that carry over to here? (Sorry, I'm a newb on this site) --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:48, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Not at all. We are not MarioWiki. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:50, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::Also, I think a lot of the difference is that on MarioWiki, you guys have many, many, MANY different games related to the portly plumber cash cow, and thus, need to be more accurate and official with the names. Here, though, we focus only on 4 games, removing this need. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:52, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Actually, that's a pretty good point. Seeing these arguments, I guess SSB4 is an acceptable name (but only for this website). Thank you! --[[User:Andymii|Andymii]] ([[User talk:Andymii|talk]]) 14:57, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Just a quick side note: Super Smash Bros 4 is actually used commonly in other websites as well. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red"><font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">'''''(Talk • '''''</font>]][[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">'''''Contribs)'''''</font>]]</sup></font></span> 15:00, 1 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::Other unofficial websites and fan names isn't reliable for any wiki in general and we shouldn't use SSB4 in this wiki also.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 18:36, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::This debate has already been settled. SSB4 is the most reliable and recognized name among the community. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:40, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::As stated before, we are heavily influenced by the tourney scene who calls the game (like the rest of the world, mind you) Smash 4. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:40, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::::Then, how can you explain about like someone asked Sakurai in Twitter about Super Smash Bros. 6 is still in developement yet (like he might referring to the Wii U version as the fifth title?) and then, Sakurai said about the Wii U version will be the last game? I know that fan opinions about choosing a name over an official name isn't reliable and it's corrupted.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 18:47, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Could you rephrase that? I am not sure what you are trying to say. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:50, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::::You're missing the point.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 18:51, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Your logic is flawed. This wiki is built up primarily on the fanbase and competitive base. If those bases classify it as SSB4, then so will we. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:54, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::::This isn't flawed, this isn't a fanon wiki and you have no rights saying it's flawed.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 18:56, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Nobody ever said this was a fanon wiki, I'm just saying Smash 4 is the most widely agreed upon name for the game, and if that's the case, then so be it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:57, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::If you have nothing else to add, let's end this conversation end here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:58, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::::The pointless opposes and the rules made it sounds like me like it's a fanon wiki than a better wiki in general, I didn't say someone says it "this is a fanon wiki", but I totally agree with going with "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U" is a better choice than an unofficial name since it's unreliable and irrelevant to have it in this wiki and Google Search has "Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U" under in [https://www.google.com/#q=Super+Smash+Bros.+for+Nintendo+3DS+%2F+Wii+U 3,350,000 results also] and plus, silencing a conversation is totally unacceptable and off-topic for the talkpage.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 19:04, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::Search results are irrelevant, and, since you have brought nothing new to this newly revived topic, yes, I suggest it end here. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:09, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
::::Then, where do people can make a discission on if they wanted to get the page to be renamed as "Super Smash bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U" instead using the ugly fan name like take it to the forums? And second, the last was on November 1st and this isn't considered to be revived.[[Special:Contributions/207.233.90.1|207.233.90.1]] 19:16, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
If a discussion has been resolved (as it was) and someone restarts it (as you have), then it is considered revived. The dates are mostly irrelevant. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 19:18, 17 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Read [[SW:OFFICIAL]]. And if you want to bring up search results, then you should also bring up the [https://www.google.com/search?q=Super+Smash+Bros.+4&cad=h search results of "Super Smash Bros. 4"], oh wait that gets over 10 times the search results the "official title" has, reinforcing our point on how it is the much more common and more used name. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:53, 18 November 2015 (EST) | |||
== regarding the roster == | |||
are you sure the number is right, I counted up the characters and the total number I came to was 53 because Cloud hasn't been released yet --[[User:Draph91|Draph91]] ([[User talk:Draph91|talk]]) 11:06, 13 November 2015 (EST) | |||
:Did you count the Mii Fighters as separate characters? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 11:09, 13 November 2015 (EST) | |||
how's this for an answer? *facepalm* --[[User:Draph91|Draph91]] ([[User talk:Draph91|talk]]) 08:20, 14 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Should we add italics to the DLC Characters instead of every time "Roy (DLC)" or "Ryu (DLC)"? [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 14:12, 22 November 2015 (EST) | |||
== People's Choice Awards == | |||
According to [http://www.peopleschoice.com/pca/awards/nominees/ these], [http://vote.peopleschoice.com/#!/home/all/93/4 links], Super Smash Bros. won best video game at the People's Choice Awards. Should it be noted? It also had Mario's SSB4 render. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America 01:58, 7 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:If it's going to be noted, it should be noted in reception. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 10:59, 7 January 2016 (EST) | |||
== HAL Laboratory's involvement == | |||
The one thing I keep pondering about from last year 'til today is figuring out if [[HAL Laboratory]] had any involvement with the two games, despite the ''[[Kirby (universe)|Kirby]]'' characters [[Kongo Jungle (SSB)|and]] [[Dream Land (SSB)|four]] [[Peach's Castle|stages]] [[Hyrule Castle|from]] ''[[Super Smash Bros.|SSB]]'' appearing in those two (Kongo Jungle is exclusive in the ''Wii U'' version). [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 23:29, 24 March 2016 (EDT) | |||
[[File:HAL Laboratory logo.png|thumbnail|HAL Laboratory involvement in ''SSB4''?]] | |||
== Japanese wiki == | |||
http://ssbwiki.e3.valueserver.jp/wiki/index.php/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8 | |||
This Japanese wiki also contains all the Japanese names of the custom moves available. --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 02:21, 23 July 2016 (EDT) | |||
== Smash Bros NX == | |||
Amongst the numerous things passing by on my Twitter feed, thanks to...*ahem* recent events, was [https://mynintendonews.com/2016/11/09/laura-dale-nintendo-switch-getting-super-smash-bros-port-but-not-at-launch/ this]. It states that Smash is being ported to the Switch with all the DLC from the Wii U version, and that Cloud and Bayo amiibos are supposed to be released alongside it. Thoughts? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 07:20, 9 November 2016 (EST) | |||
:Currently just a rumor right now, but we might want to put it on List of Rumors and Leaks. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 08:59, 9 November 2016 (EST) | |||
==Wii U stage list== | |||
The grid(?) that shows the Wii U stages goes out of bounds to the right (I'm on desktop) making the rightmost stages and names only partially visible. Any way to fix that? | |||
[[Special:Contributions/187.207.95.180|187.207.95.180]] 15:27, 25 October 2017 (EDT) | |||
:I've noticed this happening in general on the wiki with big charts, when I'm logged out, and have the browser zoomed in too much. Logging into my account allows me to view them properly regardless of how zoomed in my browser is. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:37, 25 October 2017 (EDT) | |||