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This is Zeldasmash's | This is Zeldasmash's opinion for the upcoming 10th SSBM Tier List. Doc King has recently discovered that the MBR is going to make a new and updated tier list [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwhAke296vc on a YouTube video.]So he would like you all to give your full opinions for the upcoming tier list! | ||
{|class="wikitable" align="center" style="text-align:center" | {|class="wikitable" align="center" style="text-align:center" | ||
!colspan="16"|10th [[SSBM]] Tiers | !colspan="16"|10th [[SSBM]] Tiers | ||
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!colspan="4" style="background-color:#ffbfbf"|Top Tier | !colspan="4" style="background-color:#ffbfbf"|Top Tier | ||
!colspan="5" style="background-color:#ffdfbf"|High Tier | !colspan="5" style="background-color:#ffdfbf"|High Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|8 | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|8 | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|9 | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|9 | ||
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|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[File:FoxIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Fox (SSBM)]] | |||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[File:SheikIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Sheik (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[File:FalcoIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Falco (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[File:MarthIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Marth (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ff7f7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[File:CaptainFalconIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Captain Falcon (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[File:SamusIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Samus (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[File:DrMarioIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Dr. Mario (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[File:GanondorfIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Ganondorf (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[File:LinkIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Link (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffbf7f"|[[ | |||
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!colspan="8" style="background-color:#ffffbf"|Middle Tier | !colspan="8" style="background-color:#ffffbf"|Middle Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:MewtwoIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Mewtwo (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:MarioIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Mario (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:IceClimbersIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Ice Climbers (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:PeachIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Peach (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:JigglypuffIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Jigglypuff (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:RoyIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Roy (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:DonkeyKongIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Donkey Kong (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#ffff7f"|[[File:YoungLinkIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Young Link (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[File:MrGame&WatchIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Mr. Game & Watch (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[File:LuigiIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Luigi (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[File:ZeldaIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Zelda (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[File:YoshiIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Yoshi (SSBM)]] | ||
|style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[ | |style="background-color:#7fff7f"|[[File:PikachuIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Pikachu (SSBM)]] | ||
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!colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfff"|Bottom Tier | !colspan="4" style="background-color:#bfbfff"|Bottom Tier | ||
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|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|23 | |style="background-color:#7f7fff"|23 | ||
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|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[File:NessIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Ness (SSBM)]] | |||
|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[File:KirbyIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Kirby (SSBM)]] | |||
|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[File:BowserIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Bowser (SSBM)]] | |||
|style="background-color:#7f7fff"|[[File:PichuIcon(SSBM).png|40px|link=Pichu (SSBM)]] | |||
|}</center> | |}</center> | ||
==Videos== | ==Videos== | ||
Here are some videos that you can look at to make up your mind about the new tier list! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 01:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | Here are some videos that you can look at to make up your mind about the new tier list! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 01:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7F0BRX7u4&feature=related | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7F0BRX7u4&feature=related | ||
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuuQCqvp_0s&feature=related | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuuQCqvp_0s&feature=related | ||
::So it's our opinion Mewtwo is a poor character? Well, it's also your opinion he's not. The difference is, we provided you with facts as to why Mewtwo is a poor character while you have yet to provide valid facts to support Mewtwo being a good character. What I find most flawed in your statement is you saying Mewtwo's weaknesses aren't that much. The fact of the matter is, Mewtwo has some maajor weaknesses that Mewtwo simply can't get around. About these weakness, you really don't think Mewtwo being the fourth largest character but only being a floaty lightweight is not a huge weakness? A character who is easy to hit, gets combo'd easily, and gets KO'd at such low percentages, you really don't see that as a major weakness? Considering how easy it is to rack up damage on Mewtwo and how quickly he gets KO'd, Mewtwo is arguable the easiest character to KO in ''Melee''. Then there's also Mewtwo's KO problems. The inability to KO is always a major problem, there's no way to sugarcoat it. What's worse for Mewtwo is that arguably his best finisher, the up throw, has its power based on falling speed. As a result, it's incapable of KOing the prominent fast fallers under 150% while these same fast fallers are capable of KOing Mewtwo under 100%, especially Fox and his u-smash, which can KO Mewtwo under 70%. So stop ignoring these massive weaknesses, any character who is so easy to KO yet has such difficulty earning KOs is going to find difficulty competing at any level of play. While Mewtwo may not be absolutely useless and I'll confidently say he's better than Kirby and Pichu, he is certainly not middle or even low tier, let alone being the 10th best character in the game. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 02:39, July 13, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Well Peach has weaknesses too and you guys always ignore them just because she is overrated! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 01:07, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Quality post right there... [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 02:57, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::What do you mean C. Hawk? [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 00:08, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::He was being sarcastic. Your comment basically said "I think this so you are wrong", instead of saying "I think this and these are the reasons why". Okay, so maybe you gave reasons in a previous comment, but the point is that you made a comment that acts as nothing but a waste of space. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 02:20, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Peach== | ==Peach== | ||
Serously? She was top tier and you lowered her to mid tier. Before, she was best Mario character, and you put Mario and Dr. Mario ahead of her. You guys aren't realizing what she can do and think her weaknesses are major, but they aren't, kay?--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:03, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | Serously? She was top tier and you lowered her to mid tier. Before, she was best Mario character, and you put Mario and Dr. Mario ahead of her. You guys aren't realizing what she can do and think her weaknesses are major, but they aren't, kay?--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:03, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:We don't think that the weaknesses are major. We just think that the weaknesses are a little big for a high tier, thats all. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 15:43, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | :We don't think that the weaknesses are major. We just think that the weaknesses are a little big for a high tier, thats all. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 15:43, July 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Ok, first of all she's high tier not top, and second of all, Peach is really slow and floaty, and third of all, she has poor range and some laggy attacks. So instead of having a princess in the high tier, why don't you guys have someone that's a '''REAL''' fighter like Samus and Ganondorf? [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 00:11, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::Maybe everyone on SmashWiki should have to pay a dollar so we can pay some black guy in some ghetto to kill this fucking fag<!---->got. Then stupid people will shut the fuck up when it comes to shit they know nothing about. [[Special:Contributions/174.136.39.59|174.136.39.59]] 02:55, July 15, 2010 (UTC) <span style="color:red">'''--User was temp banned for this post'''</span> | |||
:::A character's profession/abilities/personality/fanbase/etc has absolutely nothing to do with how good they are as a Smasher. You should also remember that we don't make the tier lists, the guys on SmashBoards with over a million hours of combined Smash Bros. experience do. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 02:20, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | |||