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:In regards to Sheik, however, given how [[Dark Samus (SSBU)|inconsistent]] the Smash Blog seems to be, I think that it's very likely that this was an error, and that it will be fixed later; this is just speculation on my part, and we could very well see something consistent later. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 19:23, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | :In regards to Sheik, however, given how [[Dark Samus (SSBU)|inconsistent]] the Smash Blog seems to be, I think that it's very likely that this was an error, and that it will be fixed later; this is just speculation on my part, and we could very well see something consistent later. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Rurouni'''</span>]] 19:23, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::Given the earlier mention that one of Zelda's trophies in ''Smash 4'' refers to Sheik as a "young man" (and the avoidance of any pronouns in Sheik's tips), it's likely that NoA uses masculine pronouns when they're trying to hide that Sheik is Zelda, and feminine pronouns when they're not. For what it's worth, although Japanese ''does'' have gendered pronouns, it's very easy and natural to write while avoiding them entirely (this also happened with [[Sukapon]]'s Smash Blog entry). I doubt that it'll be changed, though, and the final game will probably use the same guidelines as ''Smash 4''. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 20:30, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ::Given the earlier mention that one of Zelda's trophies in ''Smash 4'' refers to Sheik as a "young man" (and the avoidance of any pronouns in Sheik's tips), it's likely that NoA uses masculine pronouns when they're trying to hide that Sheik is Zelda, and feminine pronouns when they're not. For what it's worth, although Japanese ''does'' have gendered pronouns, it's very easy and natural to write while avoiding them entirely (this also happened with [[Sukapon]]'s Smash Blog entry). I doubt that it'll be changed, though, and the final game will probably use the same guidelines as ''Smash 4''. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 20:30, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
:::I'm belaboring a point here, but the line from the trophy description is that Zelda "takes on the guise of a young man named Sheik." This is not hiding anything, it is explicitly stating that Sheik is a male persona used as a disguise by Zelda. You can say that the in-universe character of Sheik as acted by Zelda in OoT is male. You cannot say the out-of-universe Nintendo character called Sheik is male, since she is just Zelda in | :::I'm belaboring a point here, but the line from the trophy description is that Zelda "takes on the guise of a young man named Sheik." This is not hiding anything, it is explicitly stating that Sheik is a male persona used as a disguise by Zelda. You can say that the in-universe character of Sheik as acted by Zelda in OoT is male. You cannot say the out-of-universe Nintendo character called Sheik is male, since she is just Zelda in disguise, and no official material has ever been inconsistent on this point. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 21:55, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
::Official references to Sheik as male were also a one-time thing, within the script and promotional materials of OoT itself, and never again after that. As I said, what people cite as recent official references to Sheik as male are entirely misconstrued references to the male ''persona'' of Sheik as acted out by Zelda in OoT (such as the Zelda trophy description). [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 22:01, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ::Official references to Sheik as male were also a one-time thing, within the script and promotional materials of OoT itself, and never again after that. As I said, what people cite as recent official references to Sheik as male are entirely misconstrued references to the male ''persona'' of Sheik as acted out by Zelda in OoT (such as the Zelda trophy description). [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 22:01, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
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:Was just about to talk about this until you beat me to it. Not sure if anyone has seen [https://twitter.com/NintendoVS/status/1047018344212250625?s=19 this], nor am I certain if this helps close the case, but I thought it was worth posting here. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 22:34, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | :Was just about to talk about this until you beat me to it. Not sure if anyone has seen [https://twitter.com/NintendoVS/status/1047018344212250625?s=19 this], nor am I certain if this helps close the case, but I thought it was worth posting here. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 22:34, 2 October 2018 (EDT) | ||
Sheik is most likely still female (although there are theories that | Sheik is most likely still female (although there are theories that Zelda changes gender when transforming), but is often referred to as male due to the majority of in-game characters thinking that Sheik is male. [[User:ProLink|ProLink]] ([[User talk:ProLink|talk]]) 09:08, 20 December 2018 (EST) | ||
people in the game think Sheik is male, like pit. and people in the real world think "he" is male, "he" is in quotation marks because Sheik is female because sheik is Zelda in disguise, also I never saw theory like that prolink. --[[Special:Contributions/98.127.69.195|98.127.69.195]] 00:40, May 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Newcomers for SSB Ultimate == | == Newcomers for SSB Ultimate == | ||
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Put him in the middle of the newcomer thing, keep him at 500px and just keep it as a good inside joke. Love you guys and enjoy the rest of your April Fools Day. Also, before I go, I [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/surrealmemes/images/f/ff/Noggin.png/revision/latest?cb=20190114192842 found the full Joker render for the page]. [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] ([[User talk:Enigma|talk]]) 22:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | Put him in the middle of the newcomer thing, keep him at 500px and just keep it as a good inside joke. Love you guys and enjoy the rest of your April Fools Day. Also, before I go, I [https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/surrealmemes/images/f/ff/Noggin.png/revision/latest?cb=20190114192842 found the full Joker render for the page]. [[User:Enigma|Enigma]] ([[User talk:Enigma|talk]]) 22:16, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||
:AFD content is generally never kept unless archived. No matter how ''absolutely hilarious'' a joke is, I don't think broken templates and jarring visuals justify its existence outside of AFD. If you ''absolutely'' cannot go a single day without thinking about Ridley's size inside the wiki, put [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:SSBU_character_table&oldid=1210192 this link] in your bookmarks. [[File:NokiiSig.png|link=User_talk:Nokii]] '''[[User:Nokii|{{color|#89d|Nokii}}]]''' — 22:43, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | :AFD content is generally never kept unless archived. No matter how ''absolutely hilarious'' a joke is, I don't think broken templates and jarring visuals justify its existence outside of AFD. If you ''absolutely'' cannot go a single day without thinking about Ridley's size inside the wiki, put [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:SSBU_character_table&oldid=1210192 this link] in your bookmarks. [[File:NokiiSig.png|link=User_talk:Nokii]] '''[[User:Nokii|{{color|#89d|Nokii}}]]''' — 22:43, April 1, 2019 (EDT) | ||
== Stage Builder leak from official Nintendo Ad == | |||
https://twitter.com/SSBUNews/status/1115763344663830531 | |||
Have fun. [[User:SammyTFM|SammyTFM]] ([[User talk:SammyTFM|talk]]) 20:06, April 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== DLC characters on Character chart? == | |||
Can someone tell me what happened to the character chart? Why does it have those four characters? Is someone trolling, cause I can't find anything on this. I must assume someone mistaken a leak as fact. Can someone conform this for me? I am greatly confused. [[:User:Cleb13frede|Caleb13frede]] ([[User talk:Caleb13frede|talk]]) 9:42 May 6th, 2019 (PDT) | |||
==Fix the Title Fast!== | |||
Someone griefed the title! Hurry and fix it please, it's not good. I'll delete this when it's fixed. [[User:Jungomo|Jungomo]] ([[User talk:Jungomo|talk]]) 17:44, May 10, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:what is wrong with the title? --[[Special:Contributions/98.127.69.195|98.127.69.195]] 00:36, May 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::1. It's fine now. 2. New discussions go at the bottom, not the top. 3. You indent by putting a colon in front of whatever you want to indent, not in parentheses. 4. You only need to hit Enter once if you're adding a reply, not twice. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 00:42, May 27, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Can we at least leave the VR section temporarily? == | |||
Can we please leave the VR section until the page is made? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 12:28, May 31, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:Done. I started the page. All work goes there now. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:35, May 31, 2019 (EDT) | |||
Very well. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 12:36, May 31, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:For future reference, if you need to access information that was removed from a page, use the page's history. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:10, May 31, 2019 (EDT) | |||
== Character artwork == | |||
I distinctly remember this section had official artwork of the Mother 3 cast. Anyone know what happened to it? I know M3 was Japan only but it still makes sense to have various franchises represented in this section, since it is about Ultimate and the EarthBound series is growing in popularity. Why exactly was it removed? Or was it actually unofficial artwork?[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: Supatoad64Sig.jpg|20px ]] 00:15, June 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:For one, [[SW:SIG|your signature's image is way too big - you're gonna need to shrink it a bit.]] | |||
:Secondly, could you give an example (a link to an earlier version of the page, for example) of what you're referring to? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 01:35, June 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::Thanks for pointing out my sig image, I had a feeling my image was too large and it should be fixed now. The page can be found here[[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Smash_Bros._Ultimate&diff=1151033&oldid=1151031]] which contains an image which seems to have been deleted named "Lucas Ultimate Artwork.jpg" A later page with the image removed said the artwork was not used officially so that may be the reason why it was removed.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 21:10, June 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
:::Oh, that thing. The 8-bit Mother 3 thing, right? That was removed because it wasn't a part of the whole collaborative Smash Ultimate countdown. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 21:41, June 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||
::::I see now thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice the section was focusing on the countdown (I just recently joined, which kinda explains why my original sig image was huge). I thought it was removed due to M3 being released in Japan only, outside of the fan translation.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 23:06, June 9, 2019 (EDT) | |||