Editing Talk:Water (type)

So, unlike other effects like [[Flame]] and [[Darkness]], the Water effect isn't clear to inherit this page (as it's currently being used as a disambig). Not only that, but Water is also a type (like Arm, Leg, and Body are), so there's an argument for having TWO pages: Water (type) and Water (effect) (although both would be short enough it'd be feasible to have them on the same page). Thoughts? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 11:05, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:Seeing as only four pages link to here, I'll make this page about the type and effect. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Bold 20:58, 26 December 2010 (EST)

== FLUDD and Water Gun ==

If neither do damage, how can they have a role in type effectiveness? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:42, 12 January 2011 (EST)
:Actually, Water Gun can do damage. When it is uncharged, it is a short range multi-hitting attack that can do 12% total. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:03, 13 January 2011 (EST)

Type effectiveness in Brawl applies to knockback, not damage. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 08:56, 13 January 2011 (EST)

== Used by Pokémon/assists? ==

Do any Poké Ball Pokémon or assist trophy use this effect, especially in Brawl where type effectiveness exists? If no I think it could be useful to note since some of them, like Kyogre and Piplup (and only them?), really look like they should. --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 17:07, 28 October 2014 (EDT)
:I'm interested in this too. As for other causes, perhaps the rain in the Kitty Cover microgame on [[WarioWare, Inc.]] could be water too? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 00:57, 10 November 2014 (EST)

As far as I'm aware, there are no Pokémon or Assist Trophies that use water as a type or an effect. I don't know about Kitty Cover's rain, but since it doesn't flinch, having the right type/effect would be even less important. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] El Pollo 10:46, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:In that case, I think it would be worthwhile noting that [[Kyogre]] and [[Oshawott]] do not use water as a type or effect (as is noted on the [[grass]] page in regards to [[Chikorita]]).
:As for Kitty Cover's rain not affecting knockback, Blue Pikmin should still be immune to damage from it, so it is not completely inconsequential. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:22, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

== Greninja ==

Greninja has a few water moves like hydro pump and the down taunt that use water. I know water shuriken and the swords are blade based in damage, but it has plenty of moves that are truly water. Can someone make a list of its water moves please? [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 15:15, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
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 Greninja has a few water moves like hydro pump and the down taunt that use water. I know water shuriken and the swords are blade based in damage, but it has plenty of moves that are truly water. Can someone make a list of its water moves please? [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 15:15, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
-:Everything is listed based on [https://rubendal.github.io/ssbu/#/ScriptSearch Ruben's script search] when searching for Type=ATTACK_REGION_WATER. Oddly enough most of Greninja's attacks are Type=ATTACK_REGION_NONE, AKA Typeless. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:21, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
-::Same is true in the [https://rubendal.github.io/Sm4sh-Calculator/scriptsearch.html ''Smash 4'' search] with [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FgOsGYfTD4nQo4jFGJ22nz5baU1xihT5lreNinY5nNQ/edit#gid=1781857367 Type=0x16]. In ''Brawl'' Greninja didn't exist, only Squirtle used Water and I think I covered all of his moves. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:32, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
-:::That's pretty weird but at least there's a reason for it. I'll include it as trivia I guess [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 16:33, June 2, 2020 (EDT)
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