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:: In any event, I do think there is a way to go about this, although I probably didn't state it very clearly in my first post. Regardless, in my mind it comes down to this: Wikia does not give bureaus the ability to demote sysops. This is their policy. In my view, since demotions necessarily have to come from Wikia staff (and there is no other policy I'm aware of to the contrary), no one but Wikia staff has the authority to oversee a proposal to desysop someone, en masse or otherwise. As I said above, it looks like you're already in touch with them, so since I'm already inclined to say that this is something that they have to handle, I'd like to see what they have to say. Either they'll agree to look at it themselves or they'll tell us to resolve it ourselves and let them know. If you want to desysop someone, that is how I would go about it. So to clarify what you said: there is no outlet ''purely within'' SmashWiki to demote someone, since no one purely within SmashWiki even has the technical capability to demote people. (I have other objections to the idea of a mass reconfirmation, and individual sysops are welcome to voluntarily submit to a reconfirmation, but I don't think that's quite what you're actually going for here. And although I think most "my-wiki-vs-your-wiki" comparisons are silly, your sysops might get a majority of "support" votes (as I suspect ours would), but a 51-49 split isn't enough to promote someone to sysop under any RfA policy/proposal I've seen. The original proposal specified that the RfA process would be used, which is currently in flux anyway.) --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 02:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | :: In any event, I do think there is a way to go about this, although I probably didn't state it very clearly in my first post. Regardless, in my mind it comes down to this: Wikia does not give bureaus the ability to demote sysops. This is their policy. In my view, since demotions necessarily have to come from Wikia staff (and there is no other policy I'm aware of to the contrary), no one but Wikia staff has the authority to oversee a proposal to desysop someone, en masse or otherwise. As I said above, it looks like you're already in touch with them, so since I'm already inclined to say that this is something that they have to handle, I'd like to see what they have to say. Either they'll agree to look at it themselves or they'll tell us to resolve it ourselves and let them know. If you want to desysop someone, that is how I would go about it. So to clarify what you said: there is no outlet ''purely within'' SmashWiki to demote someone, since no one purely within SmashWiki even has the technical capability to demote people. (I have other objections to the idea of a mass reconfirmation, and individual sysops are welcome to voluntarily submit to a reconfirmation, but I don't think that's quite what you're actually going for here. And although I think most "my-wiki-vs-your-wiki" comparisons are silly, your sysops might get a majority of "support" votes (as I suspect ours would), but a 51-49 split isn't enough to promote someone to sysop under any RfA policy/proposal I've seen. The original proposal specified that the RfA process would be used, which is currently in flux anyway.) --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 02:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::: There's a difference between a policy ''governing'' reconfirmations and a policy ''allowing'' reconfirmations. Your post made it seem like you were basing your opinion on the latter. Two other points and then I'm gonna quit (at least until I hear back from Wikia): a) I guarantee that it would be ''overwhelmingly'' in favor of the Sysops (referring to PvX) and b) I don't even mean desysoption, necessarily, I just mean a way to express "no-confidence." – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 03:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | ::: There's a difference between a policy ''governing'' reconfirmations and a policy ''allowing'' reconfirmations. Your post made it seem like you were basing your opinion on the latter. Two other points and then I'm gonna quit (at least until I hear back from Wikia): a) I guarantee that it would be ''overwhelmingly'' in favor of the Sysops (referring to PvX) and b) I don't even mean desysoption, necessarily, I just mean a way to express "no-confidence." – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 03:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::: If you're only talking about a non-binding no-confidence vote, then you'll have to excuse my confusion, since that's not what the proposal here is for. I won't stop people from trying to do that, provided there are no personal attacks. But it won't be binding without consent from the sysop and/or Wikia staff. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 03:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC) | |||