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Despite the heated discussion, there was little effort toward banning Steve for most of 2022, with notable exceptions being the French regional {{Trn|CrocoCup 1}} and [[Tournament:Shockwave|Ultimate Shockwave]] testing out a Steve ban, among other characters, for a few of their tournaments in November and December.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/CrocoCorporated/status/1521540624469659649|title=Steve will be banned from CrocoCup #1}}</ref> However, the early-2023 discovery of [[Phantom MLG]]—a tech involving Create Block that allows Steve to escape out of a move and immediately follow it up with a | Despite the heated discussion, there was little effort toward banning Steve for most of 2022, with notable exceptions being the French regional {{Trn|CrocoCup 1}} and [[Tournament:Shockwave|Ultimate Shockwave]] testing out a Steve ban, among other characters, for a few of their tournaments in November and December.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/CrocoCorporated/status/1521540624469659649|title=Steve will be banned from CrocoCup #1}}</ref> However, the early-2023 discovery of [[Phantom MLG]]—a tech involving Create Block that allows Steve to escape out of a move and immediately follow it up with a counterattack—led to renewed and successful efforts to ban the character, with many organizers arguing that the tech was the breaking point for them. A few tournaments, including {{Trn|Collision 2023}} and {{Trn|MAJOR UPSET}}, made efforts to only ban the tech itself, or give out penalties to those who were accused of using the test, however some players argued that banning only the tech was impractical, as it could be difficult telling whether a Steve player performed PMLG or just simply fell out of a move. By May 2023, 17 US states have banned Steve completely, while many other states have seen bans at a local level.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/LoopBarnard/status/1654190092951384064|title=Steve ban map in North America as of May 4th, 2023}}</ref> Bans were also exacerbated with {{Sm|Hungrybox}}'s decision to ban the character from his [[Tournament:The Coinbox|Coinbox]] tournaments,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/LiquidHbox/status/1631435704772317186|title=Steve is officially banned at the Coinbox for the foreseeable future.}}</ref> and many other tournaments would also announce a ban, including {{Trn|Gateway Legends 2023}}, {{Trn|Luminosity Makes Moves Miami}}, and {{Trn|Regen 2023}}. | ||
However, many players also argued that PMLG's brokenness was greatly exaggerated, as multihit moves would effectively negate it,<ref>https://twitter.com/AcidArmyGaming/status/1650674954512244743?t=dtPK7FU1SVvJTKOAFPHB4w&s=19</ref> the technique requires frame perfect timing, and said timing varies between moves as well as depending on stalling.<ref>https://twitter.com/ChakkieWFT/status/1648421839637741568?t=H1rxQaFogT18KJBgTn1xAg&s=19</ref> Others also noted how difficult it was to properly pull off in tournament - notably, [[UltRank]] issued a $35 bounty to the first three players who prove they performed the technique in bracket, with the bounty later raised to $100.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1632856982741975041|title=UltRank's PMLG bounty}}</ref> The bounty remained unclaimed, and UltRank ended it after two months.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1652911724297871360|title=The bounty's end}}</ref> In addition, the ban was not unified across all regions, as most scenes outside of North America did not institute a ban, with only a few notable exceptions such as Australia.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/AusSmashSenate/status/1640187138204475395|title=Steve is Banned from Australian Tournaments}}</ref> In particular, Japan decided not to ban Steve, and the character remained legal during their Golden Week tournaments, which featured 3 supermajor events that had many international players in attendance. | However, many players also argued that PMLG's brokenness was greatly exaggerated, as multihit moves would effectively negate it,<ref>https://twitter.com/AcidArmyGaming/status/1650674954512244743?t=dtPK7FU1SVvJTKOAFPHB4w&s=19</ref> the technique requires frame perfect timing, and said timing varies between moves as well as depending on stalling.<ref>https://twitter.com/ChakkieWFT/status/1648421839637741568?t=H1rxQaFogT18KJBgTn1xAg&s=19</ref> Others also noted how difficult it was to properly pull off in tournament - notably, [[UltRank]] issued a $35 bounty to the first three players who prove they performed the technique in bracket, with the bounty later raised to $100.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1632856982741975041|title=UltRank's PMLG bounty}}</ref> The bounty remained unclaimed, and UltRank ended it after two months.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1652911724297871360|title=The bounty's end}}</ref> In addition, the ban was not unified across all regions, as most scenes outside of North America did not institute a ban, with only a few notable exceptions such as Australia.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/AusSmashSenate/status/1640187138204475395|title=Steve is Banned from Australian Tournaments}}</ref> In particular, Japan decided not to ban Steve, and the character remained legal during their Golden Week tournaments, which featured 3 supermajor events that had many international players in attendance. | ||