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Ness (SSB4)/Down throw

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Hitbox visualization showing Ness's down throw.
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Overview

Ness shoves his opponent into the ground, produces 5 fire rings which attack the opponent and then he throws the opponent diagonally forward. Combos into forward aerial and up aerial at lower percents, and leaves the opponent open to juggling at higher percents.

Update history

In the initial release of the game, down throw was identical to its Brawl counterpart, much like all of Ness' other throws. This made it a powerful combo throw regardless of the opponent's percent. This was quickly changed in update 1.0.4 however, as the fire hits deal less damage and the throw deals more knockback at higher percents, reducing its damage racking potential, as well as its followup potential at higher percents.

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS 1.0.4

  • Nerf The fire hits deal less damage (1% → 0.6%), making the throw deal less damage overall (9% → 7%).
  • Nerf Down throw deals more knockback (90 (base), 30 (scaling) → 70/80), significantly hindering its followup potential at higher percents.

Throw and Hitbox Data

Hitboxes

Loops five times.

ID Part Damage SD Angle BK KS FKV Radius Bone Offset SDIx FFx T% Clang Rebound Type Effect G A Sound Direct
0 0 0.6% 0 AngleIcon361.png 0 100 0 4.32 0 -6.4 1.8 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Magic).png EffectIcon(Flame).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Burn SpecialsDirect.png
1 0 0.6% 0 AngleIcon361.png 0 100 0 4.32 0 -4.4 1.8 0.0 1.0x 1.0x 0% HitboxTableIcon(NoClang).png HitboxTableIcon(NoRebound).png TypeIcon(Magic).png EffectIcon(Flame).png HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png S Burn SpecialsDirect.png

Throw

ID Damage Angle BK KS FKV Bone FFx Type Effect Sound
0 4% AngleIcon70.png Forwards 70 80 0 0 None TypeIcon(Throwing).png EffectIcon(Normal).png S None
1 3% AngleIcon361.png Forwards 60 100 0 0 None TypeIcon(Throwing).png EffectIcon(Normal).png S None

Timing

Invincibility 1-18
Hitboxes 10-13, 14-17, 18-21, 22-25, 26-29
Throw Release 30
Animation length 49
Interruptible 50
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Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
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Lag time
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Hitbox
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Hitbox change
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Vulnerable
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Invincible
FrameIcon(BlankThrowS).pngFrameIcon(BlankThrowE).png
Throw point


This move in SSBM This move in SSBB This move in SSB4 This move in SSBU Ness's moveset
Neutral attack (1 · 2 · 3) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Floor attack (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Edge attack
Neutral special (def · c1 · c2) · Side special (def · c1 · c2) · Up special (def · c1 · c2) · Down special (def · c1 · c2) · Final Smash