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*Toon Link's [[Hero's Bow]] is now similar to that of Young Link's [[Fire Bow]], but he shoots farther.
*Toon Link's [[Hero's Bow]] is now similar to that of Young Link's [[Fire Bow]], but he shoots farther.
*[[Boomerang]] can now be angled more.
*[[Boomerang]] can now be angled more.
*[[Toon Link's Bombs]] now copy Young Links which cause multiple quick explosions.
*Toon Link's [[Bombs]] now copy Young Links which cause multiple quick explosions.
*Toon Link's [[Spin Attck]] doesn't go as high as it used to and that the spin attack on the ground when charged goes farther.
*Toon Link's [[Spin Attack]] doesn't go as high as it used to and that the spin attack on the ground when charged goes farther.


==Release history==
==Release history==

Revision as of 19:55, October 21, 2012

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Project M is a hack for Super Smash Bros. Brawl designed to make the gameplay more closely resemble that of Super Smash Bros. Melee. Its approximately 50 member team, which is descended from the team that developed Brawl +, is known as the Project M Backroom, or PMBR for short. It has members from over ten countries, though as of now, only an NTSC version has been released.[1]

It was featured as a singles side event at Genesis 2 with $225 in prize money.

Universal changes

  • Altered camera that behaves similarly to Melee.
  • Game Settings Modifier (Set to 8-minute, 4 stock matches)
  • Melee air dodge: Also known as MAD. The air dodge physics and mechanics used in Melee are used in Project M, allowing for advanced techniques such as Wavedashing.
  • Manual L-canceling: Unlike in Brawl+, a player has to use L, R, or Z to reduce the landing lag of aerials, similar to how it was done in Melee and Smash64.
  • Dash dancing: Changed back to the dash dancing physics and mechanics of Melee.
  • Crouch Canceling: Reimplemented from Smash 64/Melee.
  • Down smash while holding down on the analog stick: In Brawl, if a player attempts to use a d-smash while crouching, they'll perform a down tilt. Instead, this does not happen in Project M.
  • Ledge tech: The ability to ledge tech is reimplemented in Project M.
  • Edge cancel: The Melee/Smash 64 technique to doing an aerial (or a recovery) onto the edge of a platform to cancel the ending lag is reimplemented in Project M.
  • Jump cancel grabs: The ability to cancel a jump with a grab is reimplemented in Project M.
  • Reflective powershield: Powershielding now reflect projectiles back at opponents, as they did in Melee.
  • Taunt Canceling: From Smash 64, the ability to cancel a taunt is reimplemented.
  • Melee shieldstun: Shieldstun from Melee is reimplemented in Project M.
  • Removed auto-sweetspot ledges: The ability to auto-sweetspot ledges from Brawl has been removed in Project M.
  • Tech window: The window of time for teching has been altered to match the tech window in Melee.
  • Hitlag modifier: Reduces hitlag.
  • Momentum capture: Transfer more momentum into a jump.
  • Shield during dash dance: The ability to shield during a dash dance is reimplemented in Project M.
  • Dash cancel: The ability to cancel a dash with a crouch has been reimplemented in Project M. This allows pivoting among other techniques to generally be performed easier.
  • "Meleefying" characters, such as changes involving changing back characters to how they were in Melee, an example being how Falco's Reflector functioning how it did in Melee.
  • Extra stages (Such as Dream Land, Hyrule Castle, and custom stages.)
  • Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are now separate characters.

Character Changes

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Melee Veterans

Mario

Luigi

  • Green Missile's misfire has changed so you can now plan when you will use it. Spin the barrel at the start of a match and within six "shots", Luigi will misfire. When a misfire is about to occur, Luigi flashes green before detonating. If a Green Missile is charged past the duration of this flash then the attack will return to normal, and the misfire will be stored for the next Green Missile. Letting a misfire go off "spins" the barrel again of course. Since a misfire can be stored any number of times, Luigi can now control precisely when and how he uses it - changing it from a roll of the dice to a lethal certainty.
  • Fireball's range has been increased.
  • Luigi has more control while falling after a Super Jump Punch.
  • Green Missile can hit the sweet spot of the ledge so he can grab them right away.
  • The Luigi Cyclone no longer requires a "charge" by performing it on-stage before it can be used as a recovery move. It's also less strenuous to mash the special button to get it to rise, and Luigi can act out of it earlier. Recovering with Luigi just got a little bit easier.

Peach

  • Peach's Vegetables are more similar to how they were in Melee.
  • Peach's float canceling from Melee has returned.
  • Peach's down smash is similar to how it was in Melee.
  • Peach's forward smash has a random first swing, but after that it goes in this order; Tennis, golf club, and frying pan.

Bowser

  • Flying Slam is replace by Melee's Koopa Klaw.
  • Whirling Fortress is now the same as it was in Melee.
  • The lingering punch on Bowser's Forward-Tilt, his Ledge-Attack's extended reach, his instant Fire Breath, and his Back-Aerial's gimp-angle have made a return.
  • When bowser flashes red during a attack, he gets super armor.
  • Bowser can now break shield far easier now.
  • Bowser Bomb is now jump-cancelable.
  • Bowser's forward smash is stronger.
  • His down smash is jump-cancelable, which makes him jump high quickly.

Donkey Kong

  • Neutral-Aerial is now an effective approach option; it was given more range and slight invincibility on his arms during part of the attack.
  • Down-Aerial's endlag has been shortend.
  • Forward-Aerial comes out faster and has more KO potential.
  • Like in Melee, DK is able to chaingrab fastfallers and chain Up-Aerials into re-grabs for death combos if performed correctly.
  • DK's back-throw's knockback has increased.
  • DK's dash attack has been changed. It is now a roll similar to the roll in Donkey Kong Country Returns. It has weak armor and can be jumped out of in mid-air.

Link

  • Most of Link's normal attacks have slight speed and power increases. For example, Link's Dash-Attack and Down-Smash both have sooner IASA frames so that they can be acted out of sooner and are generally less unsafe to use on shielded opponents. Link's Forward-Tilt has been speed up to match Young Link's Forward-Tilt, making it extremely dangerous. The Up-Smash has been sped up as well so that the three slashes can link together better.
  • Link's Hero's Bow has its charge speed increased by 33%, its knockback increased, its knockback angle changed to send at a much more horizontal angle, and it even retains its Brawl trajectory.
  • Link's bombs are reverted to the Melee version, giving the knockback and trajectory of Melee's bombs.
  • The Gale Boomerang concept was done away with entirely, being replaced by the Boomerang that feels like its Smash 64 incarnation.
  • Link's Spin Attack has gotten a big change. The grounded version hits like the Melee version of the attack, with a strong initial hit and the weak hit sending at a semi-spike angle. The aerial version of the Spin Attack gains additional horizontal momentum, making this version of Link's Up-B the best iteration in terms of recovery distance.

Zelda

  • Zelda's forward and back aerial has two hit boxes. One that is easier to hit that does good damage and another small hit box that does a lot of damage.
  • Neutral-Air's multiple hits link into each other much better (an improvement that is also seen on the rest of her moveset) and the hitboxes are larger.
  • Down-Air has also been made to sweetspot on grounded opponents in addition to aerial opponents.
  • Finally, Up-Air has an early hitbox at the base of her fingertips.
  • Din's Fire no longer functions like it did in Melee and Brawl. Din's Fire still begins with Zelda sending out a fireball - however, instead of exploding once the B button is released, the fireball stays suspended in the air with an active hitbox for roughly three seconds. Contact with this hitbox deals minor damage and knockback, but if the fireball is allowed to tick fully and explode, they do so with great force. This attack cannot be reflected or sent back at Zelda, but can be canceled out completely by the opponent's attacks. Shielding them won't stop them from exploding, making these projectiles similar to Link's bombs or Snake's grenades. Zelda can have up to three fireballs active at one time, and each fireball that's set refreshes the fuses on all already out so Zelda can extend the life of a fireball in a good position.
  • Farore's Wind is air dodge interruptible teleporting from the ground, giving Zelda the ability to Waveland or pseudo-Wavedash any time during the duration of the move.
  • Nayru's Love is land cancelable after the attack frames end, and the ground based version has improved invulnerability but no such cancel.
  • Transform is slowed down at the beginning of the move but allows Zelda to act out of it instantly to compensate for variable load time issues. This change to Transform is also shared by Sheik.

Sheik

  • Sheik's aerials are restored to their Melee stats, meaning Up-Air and Forward-Air become good killing moves again. Her Forward-Air in particular lost a lot of steam during the transition to Brawl, so many former players are sure to be happy to learn that the slap is back. Down-Air underwent a massive revamp, not only changing its trajectory back to its Melee trajectory, but also losing its 'stall-then-fall' properties it had in Brawl. Back-Air and Neutral-Air remain good aerials, with Neutral-Air being a powerful sex kick and Back-Air being great for spacing and edgeguarding.
  • Her needles now function like her Melee needles: she only needs to tap the B button once to fire off a needle rather than double-tap it and her endlag is canceled when she lands from throwing needles in the air.
  • Her chain however can no longer grapple to walls, so keep that in mind when planning your return to the stage.
  • However her biggest special change is that Transform is no longer considered her worst option! Zelda has in her own right become a usable and competent character. Read more about her in the Zelda section and keep her in mind when you find yourself in a tough spot.

Ganondorf

  • Most of his moveset has been completely restored to its Melee incarnation. Even moves that look visually similar to Brawl, such as his Down-Tilt, function exactly like their Melee counterpart.

Pikachu

  • His Up-Aerial has been given back its notorious tail-spike and vertical juggling capability it had in Melee.
  • Pikachu's electric aerials - Forward- and Down-Aerial - have also been brought back to their Melee counterparts.
  • Fans of Smash 64 Pikachu will be happy to see that Pikachu has received his Back-Aerial from that game.

JigglyPuff

  • Back-Air's large disjointed hitbox has been restored to Melee size.
  • Pound also received an angle change so that it functions like Melee – it sends up and behind Jigglypuff now rather than Brawl's completely vertical trajectory.
  • Rest has been restored to the Melee counetr-part.

Fox

  • Fox's Reflector has been made to function as in Melee, complete with the ability to cancel it into a jump.
  • Up-Tilt, Back-Air, Up-Smash, Down-Smash, and Forward-Smash animations have even been remade to match Melee.

Falco

  • Up-Tilt, Forward-Smash, Neutral-Air, and Forward-Air have all been reverted to their Melee counterparts.
  • His Blaster can no longer fire two lasers in a single short hop anymore, but they can be fast fallen at the peak of his jump, and they even regain ability to control Falco's horizontal movement.
  • Falco holds his Reflector once again and is able to jump cancel it as well.
  • Falco Phantasm has been reduced to Melee length and priority.
  • Fire Bird loses the start-up flames that it gained in Brawl, but regains momentum after the move is completed and can grab the ledge during its start-up frames. In addition, it is no longer a multiple hit attack, but a single hit move like it was in Melee – complete with decent kill potential.

Marth

  • He held his sword differently in Brawl, but his Melee range is now restored. This includes his grab range as well.
  • His Melee Shield Breaker returns, complete with remade animation and Melee stats.

Captain Falcon

  • His Forward-Air, also known as the Knee, has been reverted back to Melee.
  • His great grab game from Melee is completely restored.
  • An aerial Falcon Kick refresh your second jump as it did in Melee.
  • Falcon Dive can grab the ledge from higher up on his body and even his Raptor Boost can grab onto it now.

Mr. Game & Watch

  • Melee's parachute Neutral-Aerial returns.
  • Up-Aerial only hits once and ends incredibly quickly.
  • Down-Aerial's landing hitbox now spike-bounces.
  • His Chef attack cancels on landing, just like Falco's lasers.
  • Oil Panic ends more quickly after catching a projectile, and when full will nearly always kill in a single hit.
  • Fire's parachute is gone.
  • His Forward-Smash has not only regained it's old power, but it also no longer loses much potency as it lingers.
  • Forward-Tilt can now be interrupted as quickly as the hitbox diminishes.

Brawl Newcomers

Wario

  • Wario's Down-Smash has been changed, it is now punches the ground and creates a small earthquake similar to "Wario Land: Shake It!".
  • Back-Air has been replace with a back punch, it does more damage and is similar to his forward-tilt.
  • Wario's Forward Smash has also been revamped - it is now a powerful front kick which has Wario flailing his arms about in order to regain balance.
  • Wario's Down-Air has been replaced with a ground pound which meteor smashes enemies.
  • Wario Bike has been completely replaced with a Wario Land style shoulder bash. The shoulder bash makes Wario dash forward similar to his replaced forward-smash. The later a foe is hit during this mad dash, the more powerful the impact will be. In keeping with its Wario Land utility, Wario can jump while performing a grounded Shoulder Bash and continue his tackle in order to chase airborne opponents. Shoulder Bash can be cancelled into a crouch, as it could in the Wario Land series. After crouching, Wario will then slide, carrying over the momentum from his Shoulder Bash. He can also use the move to recover horizontally when off the stage. Keep in mind, however, that when Wario crashes into a wall, he bounces off of it. The more he continues to hit the wall the less height he'll gain. If the move is started in the air, it will render him helpless once the animation is over.
  • Corkscrew has more control going left and right when flying up.
  • Wario is now helpless after using Wario Waft.
  • Chomp now doesn't hold enemies for quite as long as it did in Brawl, but he can now throw enemies backwards now after biting them.
  • Wario also possesses a new dash grab. During this move, Wario briefly dashes forward and grabs enemies. Because the beginning of the animation is similar to Shoulder Bash, the opponent must be wary of not shielding too prematurely.
  • When pummeling, coins pop out of the enemy similar to Mario and Luigi's Super Jump Punch.

King Dedede

  • King Dedede's jab combo now links properly.
  • Forward-Smash has larger range, but slower start up.
  • Up-Smash has also gained larger range.
  • Down-Smash now sends opponents behind Dedede.
  • Up-Aerial now in just a single hit.
  • Forward-Aerial is now a full hammer sweep from below. It covers a longer range and does more damage then the previous Forward-Aerial.
  • Jet Hammer is changed a little bit. The longer you charge it, the bigger momentum boost you get while swinging. Dedede also gains light armor while charging.
  • Super Dedede Jump no longer has super armor on the move, making his recovery less unstoppable and also more reasonable to deal with. However, his Up-B momentum can be cancelled by pressing down, helping against some forms of edge guarding and allowing Dedede to mix up his recovery methods.
  • Waddle Toss can be angled more.

Toon Link

  • His forward tilt has been slightly sped up.
  • Down-Tilt is now a crouching stab reminiscent of his shield-stab from Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
  • Toon Link's Forward-Smash has changed to a jumping slash, similar to the one used by Adult Link in Smash 64.
  • Toon Link's Up-Smash is now a two-slice move, with a strong initial hit that can kill the opponent that is quickly followed by a second cut that is better for comboing that also provides him additional coverage and damages shields.
  • Toon Link's Down-Smash now hits once in the same fashion that Young Link's did in Melee.
  • Toon Link has a new dash attack. It is inspired by Young Link and Smash 64. Toon Link quickly darts forward, stabbing the Master Sword in front of him.
  • Toon Link's Neutral-Aerial is now to that of Young Links.
  • Down-Aerial no longer causes him to quickly rush to the ground, but he again has the fire-spike that Young Link could utilize in Melee.
  • His animations from Brawl also increase his range and priority on his Up and Down aerials.
  • Toon Link's Hero's Bow is now similar to that of Young Link's Fire Bow, but he shoots farther.
  • Boomerang can now be angled more.
  • Toon Link's Bombs now copy Young Links which cause multiple quick explosions.
  • Toon Link's Spin Attack doesn't go as high as it used to and that the spin attack on the ground when charged goes farther.

Release history

Demo 1.0

Released February 8, 2011

  • 14 characters available
    • Mario
    • Link
    • Captain Falcon
    • Fox
    • Marth
    • Mr. Game & Watch
    • Sheik
    • Zelda
    • Ganondorf
    • Falco
    • Jigglypuff
    • Lucas
    • Snake
    • Sonic

Demo 2.0

Released April 17, 2012

  • Added 15 characters
    • Wario
    • Luigi
    • Bowser
    • Peach
    • Donkey Kong
    • Wolf
    • King Dedede (shown as "Dedede" on the character selection screen)
    • Toon Link
    • Ness
    • Pikachu
    • Lucario
    • Charizard
    • Ike
    • Pit
    • R.O.B.

Demo 2.1

Released May 23, 2012

  • Major bug fixes

Developers

  • Project Leaders: Shanus
  • Lead Character Developments: SHeLL, Camelot, Strong Bad
  • Additional Coders: Magus, Dantarion, Yeroc, WindOwl, Almas, Standardtoaster
  • Character design/Development: Shanus, Magus, jiang, Strong Bad, WindOwl, JCaesar, leafgreen386, Falco400, Plum, rPSI, Shadic.
  • Backroom testers: Mango, Lucky, Lovage, Silent Wolf, KirbyKaze, unknown522, RaynEX, Amsah, Faab, Bombsoldier, Captain Jack among others. All beta testers are approved through: application thread
  • Graphics/Menu Design: MookieRah, VectorAce, Shadic, camelot
  • Stage design: FrozenHobo, GameWatching, Mewtwo2000, Shadic, Monk.
  • And special thanks to Phantom Wings, paprika killer, Almas, and others

References

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