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That was you as well, right? I'm going to it into this unless you have a compelling reason why I shouldn't.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 19:22, 6 April 2014 (EDT)
That was you as well, right? I'm going to it into this unless you have a compelling reason why I shouldn't.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 19:22, 6 April 2014 (EDT)
:Yup --[[User:Myth|Myth]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 20:12, 6 April 2014 (EDT)
::Wow, I managed to not type the critical word in the second sentence… Anyway, thanks for confirming. Any reason I shouldn't merge the accounts? [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 21:51, 6 April 2014 (EDT)
:::You can merge them. --[[User:Myth|Myth]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 08:04, 7 April 2014 (EDT)
==Sig test==
--[[User:Myth|&#91;&#91;User:Myth&#124;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;yellow&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Myth&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;File:Myth Kirby.png&#124;19px&#124;link&#61;User talk:Myth&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 14:25, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
How do I change my Signature? --[[User:Myth|&#91;&#91;User:Myth&#124;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;yellow&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Myth&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;File:Myth Kirby.png&#124;19px&#124;link&#61;User talk:Myth&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 16:32, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
--[[User:Myth|&#91;&#91;User:Myth&#124;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;yellow&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Myth&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;File:Myth Kirby.png&#124;19px&#124;link&#61;User talk:Myth&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 17:42, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
:Have you tried anything? Have you read the entire preferences page? Do you think you're ready to have a custom sig if you can't figure this out on your own? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Honcho 17:47, 8 April 2014 (EDT)
It would be better if I got oh I dont know help?! --[[User:Myth|&#91;&#91;User:Myth&#124;&#60;font color&#61;&#34;yellow&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Myth&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/font&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;File:Myth Kirby.png&#124;19px&#124;link&#61;User talk:Myth&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Myth#top|talk]]) 09:03, 9 April 2014 (EDT)
:Read the policies again, specifically [[SW:SIG#Customizing your signature|this section]]. You're screwing something up if your sig doesn't work. In addition, the preview button still lets you view changes to your sig as long as you saved said changes to your preferences. You should not need help for something that is not that hard. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 20:44, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
==Regarding the edits you make to smasher pages==
"You have several users who are constantly undoing your edits to smasher and related pages. Perhaps you should take a step back and think about whether you really know what you're doing, or whether you should defer until you become more experienced."
I'm pretty sure that you have the right intentions with the edits you make, but you really do need to take a step back and think about the edits you are making. You're getting into edit wars when you're inserting the wrong information to begin with, so maybe you should just not edit the smasher pages until you know more about the competitive scene. Focus on other areas of the wiki, but just avoid the smasher pages for now. Hopefully, you aren't just going to ignore these statements, but repeating it again helps. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 20:44, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:Adding on to this, you have been getting a ''lot'' of leeway regarding your edits (in fact, this stems back to January, so about '''''over 3 months'''''), and quite frankly, it's getting tiresome. I don't doubt that your edits are with good faith, but you have a very bad tendency to get into edit wars and completely ignore edit summaries. It's very clear that you're not too well-versed in the competitive scene, yet the majority of your edits have been related to that (and thus, a large portion of your edits have been reverted). I'm asking you to please focus your attention on other parts of the wiki and avoid touching the smasher pages. It would really help a lot. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 03:33, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
After not responding to this (or any number of requests/comments of the same derivation) you up and make the [[Smasher:Ryxis|Ryxis]] page… As others have stated, I'm not convinced these are bad faith edits, but they are most definitely bad edits. If Ryxis really is someone who gets a smasher page for his contributions to SmashWiki, you need to enumerate them in the page. When you create a new page, the onus is on you to make it appropriate. Also, you need to stop just adding random players to characters and/or categories to players just because they once used the character when sandbagging. If you feel that we are all off base in this criticism, please explain to us why. Otherwise, please stop making these edits. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:06, 19 April 2014 (EDT)
:I just thought we need more SmashWiki players. --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 00:20, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
::We don't need more smasher pages for the sake of having more smasher pages to please any minorities or majorities. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 00:51, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
Herein lies the problem with many of your edits, and Mega hit the nail on the head. We don't need pages just because we don't have them. If only two people play Mewtwo with any professional regularity, they are the only ones who get listed. It doesn't matter that there are ten times as many Marth players; we shouldn't be flooding the Mewtwo page with random dudes who sandbagged with Mewtwo just to make it have the same number as other pages. As for the SmashWiki players category, if the player isn't notable outside of their work on SmashWiki, the standard for notability is basically me and Ax (i.e. admin the site for multiple years, take it through major transitions, <s>troll</s>, and be known in the community for the work on the wiki). RJM, OT, and KoRo all have had meaningful professional outings, and Toomai has done his work with the technical details (similar to some of M2K's work). Ryxis has been a quality editor, but that alone does not get him a page. Again, the category having a limited number of entires is not a negative. If anything, it is to its benefit as it demonstrates the level of notability that is required for inclusion. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 01:08, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
==Banned==
Why the hell am I banned? I didn't even finish arguing with Omega Tyrant on PP's Mario. Also, how come banned people aren't allowed to edit talk pages? That would make it so much easier. Btw MacD is apart of Curse... kind of hes still apart of CT. --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 16:32, 1 May 2014 (EDT)
:Your ban log says that you kept edit warring when you were repeatedly told not to. {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Special:Contributions/Red]] 17:04, 1 May 2014 (EDT)
:Yes. Seriously, what makes you surprised about a ban when you literally ignore everyone all the time? We're not posting on your talk page to spam it. We're not reverting all your edits to make fun of you. We're telling you that you're edit warring and violating [[SW:1RV]], and that you should stop. Yet even after one temp ban, you continue to do it. And you were already refuted about Dr. PP's Mario. Having only played a character in a few matches six years ago doesn't make them notable with that character. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:08, 1 May 2014 (EDT)
:Banned people can't edit talk pages because...you answered your own question. They're '''banned'''. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:13, 1 May 2014 (EDT)
::Lol. There are plenty of players who dont play a certain character for a while and are notable. Mango's Puff, UmbreonMow's M2. --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 16:33, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:::Oh, because Dr. PP has totally played Brawl Mario notably in the past few years, hasn't he? Did you even read what I said? [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 16:36, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::Oh, because UmbreonMow has totally played Melee Mewtwo notably in the past few years, hasn't he? --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 16:38, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::So you contradict yourself. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 16:41, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::I honestly can't recall UmbreonMow ever doing anything notable as a player, anyway. As for Mango, he originally became famous for his Jigglypuff, and won multiple nationals using that character. In regards to Dr. PeePee, the video you've been linking still shows him losing, plus it was a month after Brawl's release in the states, so... your comparisons are poor. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:03, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::::I contradicted myself because the wiki already said UMow has played a good M2. And losing a match doesnt mean anything. If you do really good against someone and still lose it doesnt take away your good play. --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 17:19, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::You're forgetting that the match you linked was six years ago. I'll repeat, '''six years ago'''. Dr. PP hasn't done anything notable with Mario since. Also you obviously didn't read what Jamal said. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:21, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::I did read what Jamal wrote. And as I said '''six years ago''' doesnt matter. AS LONG AS THEY PLAY GOOD THEY ARE GOOD NO MATTER WHAT TIME PERIOD! Case in point Hbox's Brawl Puff. --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 17:25, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::If you read it, you would be able to refute it. And Hungrybox was once ranked on the Florida Brawl Power Rankings with Jigglypuff/King Dedede. Go and find something like that that Dr. PP did with Mario. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 17:28, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::''"AS LONG AS THEY PLAY GOOD THEY ARE GOOD NO MATTER WHAT TIME PERIOD!"'' Has the term rusty ever rung a bell? <span style="font-family:Badaboom BB; font-size: 14pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="#73c55a">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="#afaf5e">ny</font>]][[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]]</span> 17:30, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::That must be some really outdated metagame then. :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Engineer 19:06, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
Myth, you are perilously walking close to getting banned from being able to post on your talk page too. Seriously, stop being so damn dense and listen for once.
Here's the thing. Yes, once notable, always notable. Mango doesn't use Puff anymore, but that doesn't mean he wasn't at one time the best Jigglypuff player ever. With Dr. PP with Brawl Mario however, '''you have not sufficiently shown that he was ever a notable Brawl Mario in the first place'''. Your only evidence is '''one single video, from right after Brawl's launch, in a match PP didn't even win'''. How many times have we told you, '''a notable player using a random character in a tourney once does not make them a notable player of that character!''' For evidence, '''you are supposed to show tournament results where Dr. PP did exceptionally well with Brawl Mario, or any other thing such as a power ranking that shows him regarded highly with Mario'''. A single losing video from right after Brawl's release '''is not evidence'''. And '''time period does matter''' ''when it's early 2008 and everyone is bad and were playing random characters trying to find their main that they stopped playing soon after''. ''Winning also matters'', '''you are not a notable player with the character if you do not win an exceptional amount with the character'''. No player is considered notable because they "almost win" and "look really good".
Also, when your ban ends, the next time you edit war or put a big name player as a notable player of a character they used once in a tourney, '''you will be immediately blocked for a month, with your talk page blocked as well'''. You have been getting away with your shit and attitude for way too long, if you don't start listening and keep insisting on your ways, you simply won't be allowed to edit here. You will also be rebanned, if you're going to ignore us and keep trying to argue PP as a notable Brawl Mario because of one ancient video '''while not giving us any actual evidence that we keep telling you to give'''. The users of the Wiki have tired of you long ago, and I'm going to put my foot down on you now. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:59, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
I'm going to step in here, as a neutral observer, and explain what's at issue. The issue is not, on the whole, if Dr. PP is a notable Mario player. The issue is that, rather than have the discussion on the talk page, you do it via edit warring. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but you must also respect community response. In this case, all the evidence was against you in terms of Dr. PP. You have made a few legitimate arguments, but they were all contained in the edit summary's of edits in violation of [[SW:1RV]] and/or on your talk page ''once you were already banned''.  Where were these arguments on the talk page of the article in question? And once your arguments are responded to, you do not have the right to simply edit your shit back in just because you disagree with everyone else. I'm not even going to get into the specifics of the argument, because they are irrelevant to your ban. The only thing I will add—which is something that I have previously talked to you about—is to reiterate that just because there are a limited number of notable entries in a category does not mean that the threshold for notability in said category is lower. Even through I main Zelda (and was at one time the top Zelda player in IowaI) I don't get to be in the Zelda (SSSB) player category just because there aren't a ton of Zelda pros. I'm not at the level that is actually notable, nor is my play with Zelda actually recognized by the community. We don't need or want people like me categorized in the Zelda pros because it dilutes the importance of the category. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 12:56, 6 May 2014 (EDT)
== join us ==
get your techless nintendo self on [http://www.ssbwiki.com/Special:WebChat sw] <span style="font-family:Badaboom BB; font-size: 14pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="#73c55a">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="#afaf5e">ny</font>]][[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]]</span> 18:16, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
== Your sig ==
I noticed today that your sig is primarily yellow text on white background, and so probably a pain for most people to read. You should probably change it. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 16:52, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:Would orange work? --[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 17:37, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
::Orange is probably fine. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Prismatic 19:01, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Done. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 19:20, 7 June 2014 (EDT)
==Dr. Mario and Young Link discussion==
Dicuss if you want too. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 11:10, 22 December 2014 (EST)
:Your talk page isn't the best place to put this. Maybe on the forums or the IRC, but not here. <font face="Marker Felt">[[User:Rtzxy|<span style="color:red;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:Reflect.jpg|20x20px]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:green;">''Reflect!''</span>]]</font> 11:15, 22 December 2014 (EST)
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