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|venue=Toy Wiz
|venue=Toy Wiz
|address=253 West Route 59
|address=253 West Route 59
|city=Nanuet, New York {{Flag|USA}}  
|city=Nanuet, New York {{Flag|USA}}
|attendance= 110+
|attendance= 110+
|entryfees=Singles: $10<br>Doubles: $10 per person<br>Venue: $20 (for competitors) $15 (if setup was brought)  
|entryfees=Singles: $10<br>Doubles: $10 per person<br>Venue: $20 (for competitors) $15 (if setup was brought)
|pot=Singles: $1,140
|pot=Singles: $1,140
|ssbmwinner={{Sm|Mew2King|USA}} <small>1v1</small><br>{{Sm|Mew2King|USA}} & {{Sm|Chillin|USA}} <small>2v2</small>
|ssbmwinner={{Sm|Mew2King|USA}} <small>1v1</small><br>{{Sm|Mew2King|USA}} & {{Sm|Chillin|USA}} <small>2v2</small>
|director= {{Sm|Alukard}}
|organizer= {{Sm|Alukard}}
|staffgroup1=
|staff1=
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'''''Revival of Melee 5''''' or '''''ROM 5''''' was an Atlantic North ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' regional and [[Apex 2013]] qualifier held by {{Sm|Alukard}} in Nanuet, New York. The tournament brought together many talented smashers in the Atlantic North such as {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Hax}}, as well as the Canadian champions, {{Sm|KirbyKaze}} and {{Sm|Unknown522}}. Though the attendance was large and the competition was tough, ROM 5 did not feature major players who attended previous Revival of Melee tournaments, most notably {{Sm|Mango}}, {{Sm|Dr. PeePee}}, and {{Sm|Hungrybox}}.
'''Revival of Melee 5''' or '''ROM 5''' was an Atlantic North ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' regional and {{Trn|Apex 2013}} qualifier held by {{Sm|Alukard}} in Nanuet, New York. The tournament brought together many talented smashers in the Atlantic North such as {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Hax}}, as well as Canadian champions {{Sm|KirbyKaze}} and {{Sm|Unknown522}}. Though the attendance was large and the competition was tough, ROM 5 did not feature several major players who attended previous Revival of Melee tournaments, most notably {{Sm|Mango}}, {{Sm|Dr. PeePee}}, and {{Sm|Hungrybox}}.


==Schedule==
==Schedule==
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==Results==
==Results==
===Singles===
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' singles===
(114 entrants)<br>
(114 entrants)<br>
[[Media:ROM5SinglesBracket.jpg|Bracket]]
[[Media:ROM5SinglesBracket.jpg|Bracket]]
{|class="wikitable collapsible" style="text-align:center"
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Place!!Name!!Character(s)!!Earnings
!Place!!Name!!Character(s)!!Earnings
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|17th||{{Sm|T. Webb|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
|17th||{{Sm|T. Webb|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|JesiahTEG|USA}}||{{Head|Marth|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|Phish-It|USA}}||{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|Slox|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|Mr. F|USA}}||{{Head|Jigglypuff|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|WarriorKnight|USA}}||{{Head|Bowser|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|The Moon|USA}}||{{Head|Marth|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|Hazz|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}{{Head|Marth|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|25th||{{Sm|Strong Bad|USA}}||{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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Note: A match exchange was held in Winner's Semifinals where Eggm and Unknown522 switched places.
Note: A match exchange was held in Winner's Semifinals where Eggm and Unknown522 switched places.


===Doubles===
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' doubles===
(16 teams)<br>
(16 teams)<br>
[[Media:ROM5DoublesBracket.png|Bracket]]
[[Media:ROM5DoublesBracket.png|Bracket]]
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{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Place!!Name!!Character(s)!!Name!!Character(s)!!Earnings
!Place!!Name!!Character(s)!!Name!!Character(s)!!Earnings
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|13th||{{Sm|StriCNYN3|USA}}||{{Head|Falco|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Sm|UltimaScout|USA}}||{{Head|Marth|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
|13th||{{Sm|StriCNYN3|USA}}||{{Head|Falco|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Sm|UltimaScout|USA}}||{{Head|Marth|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|13th||{{Sm|WarriorKnight|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}{{Head|Bowser|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Flag|USA}} [[Smasher:Dan (New York)|Dan]]||{{Head|Falco|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
|13th||{{Sm|WarriorKnight|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}{{Head|Bowser|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Sm|Dan|USA|p=New York}}||{{Head|Falco|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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|13th||{{Sm|Sol|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Sm|Phish-It|USA}}||{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
|13th||{{Sm|Sol|USA}}||{{Head|Fox|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||{{Sm|Phish-It|USA}}||{{Head|Donkey Kong|g=SSBM|s=16px}}||
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This tournament has caused much controversy among the Smash community due to the winners' semifinals match between {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Unknown522}}, as well as the events that occurred afterward.
This tournament has caused much controversy among the Smash community due to the winners' semifinals match between {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Unknown522}}, as well as the events that occurred afterward.


ROM 5 deviated from all other major tournaments of the year in that it used the Standard [[Dave's Stupid Rule]], which states one cannot counterpick ''any'' stage won on, instead of the Modified DSR, which states one cannot counterpick the ''last'' stage won on. Some smashers at the tournament were not informed of the unusual rule and in the case of {{Sm|Mew2King}} caused controversy in matches. In the winners' semifinal match featuring M2K and Unknown522, the match sequence went as follows:
ROM 5 deviated from all other major tournaments of the year in that it used the "standard" version of [[Dave's Stupid Rule]], which states one cannot counterpick ''any'' stage won on, instead of "modified DSR", which states one cannot counterpick the ''last'' stage won on (modified DSR was used at every other major tournament in 2012). Some players at the tournament were not informed of the unusual rule and in the case of Mew2King caused controversy in matches. In the winners' semifinal match featuring M2K and Unknown522, the match sequence went as follows:
*Unknown wins on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}.  
*Unknown wins on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}.
*M2K wins on {{SSBM|Final Destination}}.
*M2K wins on {{SSBM|Final Destination}}.
*M2K wins on [[Fountain of Dreams]].
*M2K wins on [[Fountain of Dreams]].
*Unknown wins on Fountain of Dreams.
*Unknown wins on Fountain of Dreams.
At this point, Mew2King intended to counterpick Final Destination, claiming that the Modified DSR was in effect. Unknown, though skeptical of the claim, agreed and lost the match on Final Destination. After the match, Unknown clarified the claim with the TO Alukard, who stated the standard DSR was in effect. Mew2King and Unknown were then asked to replay match 5. Unknown then won on [[Yoshi's Story]].
At this point, Mew2King intended to counterpick Final Destination, as he was unaware of the DSR rules in effect, and believed he couldn't go back to only the last stage won on (that being Fountain of Dreams). Unknown, though skeptical of the claim, agreed and lost the match on Final Destination. After the match, Unknown clarified the claim with the TO Alukard, who made it clear which DSR variation was being used in the tournament. Mew2King and Unknown were then asked to replay match 5. Unknown then won on [[Yoshi's Story]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://smashboards.com/threads/rom-5-mew2king-vs-unknown522.329934/|title=Mew2King vs. Unknown522 Smashboards thread}}</ref>


There have been several points of controversy in this event. Many players believe that M2K lied to Unknown as to whether Standard or Modified DSR was in effect, and argue that M2K did indeed cheat to win the match, while others argue it was unintentional and that it was Unknown's fault for not clarifying the rules before playing the match. Alukard's decision to replay game 5 was also highly controversial, as the set was already over by the time he was available for clarification, and many players felt that the initial results should have been used, saying that forcing replays can disrupt a player's mindset, as was the case with the final results. There have also been people who argue that Alukard should have made it clearer that the rule was different from all other major tournaments that year, and that players should pay more attention to a tournament's rulesets.
There have been several points of controversy in this event. Many players believe that M2K lied to Unknown as to which variation of DSR was in effect, and argue that M2K did indeed cheat to win the match, while others argue it was unintentional and that it was Unknown's fault for not clarifying the rules before playing the match. Alukard's decision to replay game 5 was also highly controversial, as the set was already over by the time he was available for clarification, and many players felt that the initial results should have been used, saying that forcing replays can disrupt a player's mindset, as was the case with the final results. There have also been people who argue that Alukard should have made it clearer that the rule was different from all other major tournaments that year, and that players should pay more attention to a tournament's rulesets.


As a result of the replay and possibly its outcome, the rest of the tournament (winners' finals, losers' finals, and grand finals) were all [[sandbagging|sandbagged]] by Unknown and {{Sm|KirbyKaze}}, with KirbyKaze being asked to play out his set despite throwing game 1 and M2K being allowed to 3-0 Unknown in both grand final sets to take the tournament. M2K and Unknown also agreed to split their winnings in public before the grand final even began, creating further controversy.
As a result of the replay and possibly its outcome, the rest of the tournament (winners' finals, losers' finals, and grand finals) were all [[sandbagging|sandbagged]] by Unknown and {{Sm|KirbyKaze}}, with KirbyKaze being asked to play out his set despite throwing game 1 and M2K being allowed to 3-0 Unknown in both grand final sets to take the tournament. M2K and Unknown also agreed to split their winnings in public before the grand final even began, creating further controversy.


In discussions following RoM 5 on [[SmashBoards]], M2K and Unknown both admitted that they were at some fault, with M2K explaining that he did not check the rules but that they were not articulated well enough before the tournament, but that the replay should not have happened as he and Unknown had already decided what would normally have been the outcome, and Unknown admitting that he should have played out his Grand Finals sets. However, when a third party in {{Sm|Cactuar}} claimed that M2K knew full well that Final Destination was illegal, and that he pestered Unknown to be able to choose Final Destination until he finally caved in and accepted, confusion ensued as people were met with two completely different stories of what happened. During the argument that followed, Alukard posted his argument into the thread that it was all M2K's fault and that he just pulled everyone into the controversy himself, and threatened to ban him from [[Revival of Melee 6]]- however, there were then people who argued against ''him'' claiming that he made a mistake himself in the bracket and forced Mew2King to move into a different set during Winner's Semifinals. They claimed that if he did not interfere with the bracket in the first place, none of this would have happened. With a myriad of different arguments presented to users on the forum, the entire argument is still something of a gray area, but the general consensus is that Alukard, M2K, and Unknown all made mistakes in organizing or playing out the tournament, and that the community should take this seriously to make sure these mistakes do not happen again in the future.
In discussions following RoM 5 on [[SmashBoards]], M2K and Unknown both admitted that they were at some fault, with M2K explaining that he did not check the rules but that they were not articulated well enough before the tournament, but that the replay should not have happened as he and Unknown had already decided what would normally have been the outcome, and Unknown admitting that he should have played out his Grand Finals sets. However, when a third party in {{Sm|Cactuar}} claimed that M2K knew full well that Final Destination was illegal, and that he pestered Unknown to be able to choose Final Destination until he finally caved in and accepted, confusion ensued as people were met with two completely different stories of what happened.


== External links ==
During the argument that followed, Alukard posted his argument into the thread that it was all M2K's fault and that he just pulled everyone into the controversy himself, and threatened to ban him from {{Trn|Revival of Melee 6}}. However, there were then people who argued against Alukard, claiming that he made a mistake himself in the bracket and forced Mew2King to move into a different set during Winner's Semifinals. They claimed that if Alukard did not interfere with the bracket in the first place, none of the ensuing issues would have happened. With a myriad of different arguments presented to users on the forum, the entire argument is still something of a gray area, but the general consensus is that Alukard, M2K, and Unknown all made mistakes in organizing or playing out the tournament, and that the community should take matters seriously to ensure these mistakes do not happen at future events.
 
==External links==
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=326914 Main Thread]
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=326914 Main Thread]
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=330024 Results Thread]
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=330024 Results Thread]
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=329934 Controversy Thread]
*[http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=329934 Controversy Thread]
*[http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/videos?page=1 Archived Stream]
*[http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp/videos?page=1 Archived Stream]
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