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 Therefore, we should probably wait until the '''Smash Back Room''' releases their full tier list. '''Not''' what the entire community thinks as that includes everybody who participates in Smash, including the casuals that don't know about competitive play aspects. They could have a completely different opinion than what competitive players think. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Knee 09:50, 24 January 2015 (EST)
+:''""The community" is not a valid citation."''
+:Read everything I wrote instead of repeatedly echoing stuff I previously discussed. The Smash scene wouldn't exist without the community. '''Professional players provide important, notable, and reliable citations, and their opinions on stuff should be put in the article. The SBR tier lists are literally '''''based on the opinions of professional players.'''''
+:A ton of shit on this wiki is based on the opinions of the community. The tiers exist because the people in the community think they exist. The buffs and nerfs across games are considered buffs and nerfs because people in the community think they improve or weaken their characters. Tripping is considered a really dumb mechanic because everyone in the community thinks so. MK is considered to be broken because everyone in the community thinks so. There's a meme that Villager is psychopathic because people in the community made that up. The community's response has always been huge in this wiki. This is important encyclopedic information, and this wiki would be incomplete without stating the overall reception in the community.
+:''"Top tier" is meaningless without a complete tier list."''
+:What the hell is so hard to understand about saying "Diddy Kong is a top tier character in Smash 4?" If that really bothers you that much, we can add in the generally accepted tier positions for every single character in the game.
+:''"This page is about tier lists specifically, nothing further."''
+:Read everything I wrote instead of repeatedly echoing stuff I previously discussed. "Tier" and "Top tier" both redirect here. "Tier list" is a horrible name, because it just leads to people like you whining about how shit related to the topic of the article shouldn't belong because it's not in a "list" form.
+:''"'''Not''' what the entire community thinks as that includes everybody who participates in Smash, including the casuals that don't know about competitive play aspects. They could have a completely different opinion than what competitive players think."''
+:Pretty much any competitive player of Smash 4 thinks that characters like Diddy Kong and Sheik are among the best in the game. A casual player will probably tell you that Kirby and Ike are the best in the game, but the tier list is centered on the competitive community.
+:You know Miles, what really irks me, is that in all the times I posted here, I responded to all the points you mentioned above, and yet in all the times you posted (usually a couple of sentences), you never provided any attempts at replying to what I said about your arguments. You just keep repeating everything that you say and expect me to listen, even though you don't provide any reasoning. Don't expect things to end in your favor if you never respond to anything the other people say and just keep echoing the same statements over and over again, without trying to back your points up. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 10:51, 24 January 2015 (EST)